and what evidence shows these kids wouldn’t have the same result in public? You guys are like innumerate. But perhaps not surprising since you are willing to pay $1 mil for something the rest of us get for free. |
That’s ok. We can afford it. |
It’s funny. I have wealthy family members who sent their kids public - because they didn’t get wealthy by wasting their money, and also expect a lot out of their kids, and also are not insecure about their kids’ ability to succeed in public. You don’t only have to have the money to attend a private but also have to believe that it provides something in addition to education - like prestige in the here and now (apart from whatever educational value it has) or additional support for a kid you believe cannot really hack it in public, or you just want to give your kid the present material benefits of private (like a nicer campus, etc). |
That’s ok. It works for my family. If I had less money, public would work us as well. |
Now we’re talking hypotheticals, which are — conveniently for you — impossible to substantiate one way or another. |
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In private school, my kid gets:
- systematic phonics instruction - instruction in writing and essay crafting starting in 1st grade - smaller classes (14 kids) - a true incorporation of art, music, science, etc rather than this being an afterthought - ample time outside every day - NO time wasted on state testing - very few if any disciplinary issues. Two kids were being bullies last year. The school expelled them. - Extensive write ups in report cards, explaining in depth how she’s doing. - Teachers will set up meetings in 24 hours after we email them to talk to us about anything. All of that is worth $45,000/year to us. It might not be for someone else, but it’s pointless for someone to come in here and claim — without presenting evidence — that private school is a waste of money. |
I appreciate the candor and detail here. Lots of valid reason why you might send your kids to private school. Lots of valid reasons why you would not. The one argument that drives me insane is when public school parents compare college results. If you're sending your kid to private school to get into a "Top 20" college, you've wasted a lot of money. There's great data showing top public school students have equal if not better "results" than private school students. The reason to send you kid to private school should look a lot more like what PP has shared. |
PP here. Thank you. I agree that public school students in magnet high schools do just as well as top private schools. A couple (TJ, Stuy) might do better. Overall, however, private schools are overrepresented in elite colleges. The Crimson has good data on this: https://interactives.thecrimson.com/2024/news/feeders But college admissions is really besides the point. It’s more about everything I mentioned. |
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Private school parent here: we send our kids to private because we value childhood and want our kids to cultivate love of learning, sound foundation for friendship development, safety etc. We don't send our kids to private to necessarily get them into an Ivy.
I hope this assuages the tender feelings of public school parents who are truly obsessed with our forum. |
I love this argument and it’s one I forgot when making my list. Our kid goes to a K-8. We were deciding between a K-8 and a K-12. One reason we decided on a K-8 was the Head of School saying they try to extend childhood. That doesn’t mean low expectations. It means keeping a sense of wonder. A certain innocence without being naive. He also talked, though, about how in a K-8, the middle schoolers have the chance to show leadership at a time when they’re often overlooked and are many times struggling. That emphasis on both the proper development of young kids and attention to those tough middle school years is in part why we chose a K-8. I wonder how these anti-private school parents would feel about these schools if they actually sat down with a good head of school and asked: “what is the value that you think your school brings, and how does that value show up every day for students?” |
I’ll take things I can’t afford even if they’re worth it for . . . Yeah, OP, I feel it too. Two kids, full pay is a struggle |
Same. Although public is not as integrated. I know I pay a premium for on campus private piano and on campus individual executive coaching and on campus mandatory sports. I value these things AND value my time, so it works for me. |
+1 I send my gifted kids to top private and yet am encouraging them to apply to state colleges. There is a reason for everything I do and I don’t need to explain it. |
Having known a lot of Ivy League kids (NE boarding school grad), I completely agree. Most people don’t realize how poor the undergrad Harvard education actually is, and how insufferable the kids are. The university’s rep comes from its grad programs, not undergrad. My high school best friend’s dad left a tenured Harvard professor job to teach at University of Vermont because he couldn’t stand the kids. I think going to an excellent state school (Michigan, UVA, etc) can be better preparation for the real world than a lot of private colleges. People who think it’s Ivy League or bust are primarily people with little direct knowledge of higher ed. |
Thats funny because I see a ton of posts on the college forum about this private school kid and that private school kid applying for and getting denied by Harvard and Princeton, and they're instead looking at Hamilton or Bates or Notre Dame. |