R.I.P. American children

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Anonymous wrote:Polio is quite different than covid PP, but you do you. Does PP understand that over 90% infected with polio is asympomatic?

They probably also don't know its transmitted by a fecal-oral vector...

So many vaccine enthusiasts think its some sort of "cough, cough, now I'm paralyzed" nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.

There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!

I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.

Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.

Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!

You need to educate yourself because your are incorrect

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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.

There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!

I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.

Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.

Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!

Even though it is transmitted by bodily fluids, the 2nd most common way children acquire it is through contact. Very tiny amounts are far more infectious than Hep C or HIV plus it is stable on surfaces for a week. A tiny amount of bodily fluid (a bloody nose drip, a little blood on a toothbrush, a daycare kid who bites), plus a toddler who rubs their eye is all it takes. Half of infected children still acquires it through contact. Mostly household contacts but there are rare examples of daycare transmission

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Polio is quite different than covid PP, but you do you. Does PP understand that over 90% infected with polio is asympomatic?

They probably also don't know its transmitted by a fecal-oral vector...

So many vaccine enthusiasts think its some sort of "cough, cough, now I'm paralyzed" nonsense.

Hence the swimming pool idiot!

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Here’s some receipts, though I suspect your pretzel logic is incoming. If you think they’re not coming for other jabs soon, IDK what to tell you.

Besides, the claim that it was all a money grab, but some of us are okay with spending the $$.

“In the late 1940s, more than 35,000 people were paralyzed from polio in the U.S. every year, according to the CDC. But the advent of an effective vaccine in 1955 dramatically reduced the spread of the disease to less than 100 cases annually by the 1960s.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/04/how-polio-silently-spread-in-new-york-and-left-a-person-paralyzed.html#:~:text=In%20the%20late%201940s%2C%20more,cases%20annually%20by%20the%201960s.

[Anonymous]

The bottom line is that even though the total overall risk of Hep B is low, any small risk of disease, which is severe, costly, and devastating, is still higher than any tiny risk of the vaccine. The earlier the better as some folks are silent carriers and research shows that children still get infected through others even though they don't do drugs or have sex - due to how much more contagious Hep B is and how stable it is on surfaces (from other people is the 2nd most common way children are infected, after childbirth).

When you choose not to vaccinate even though you think the risk to you personally is low - even then - you chose the higher risk option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that even though the total overall risk of Hep B is low, any small risk of disease, which is severe, costly, and devastating, is still higher than any tiny risk of the vaccine. The earlier the better as some folks are silent carriers and research shows that children still get infected through others even though they don't do drugs or have sex - due to how much more contagious Hep B is and how stable it is on surfaces (from other people is the 2nd most common way children are infected, after childbirth).

When you choose not to vaccinate even though you think the risk to you personally is low - even then - you chose the higher risk option.

DP to add, this risk calculation will inevitably tip more toward it being better to vaccinate the more our leaders push distrust in vaccination. People feel safe because we had a successful program, but now we will be weakening that program.

[Anonymous]

Adults also need the hep B vaccination every 10 years. How many of you are getting it every 10 years? How many of the general adult public are getting it every 10 years?

[Anonymous]

Just so we are all clear, historically, this is why the CDC ACIP recommended HepB vaccines for children.

"If adults won't go for the shots, then give them to children" - New York Times, March 1, 1991

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that even though the total overall risk of Hep B is low, any small risk of disease, which is severe, costly, and devastating, is still higher than any tiny risk of the vaccine. The earlier the better as some folks are silent carriers and research shows that children still get infected through others even though they don't do drugs or have sex - due to how much more contagious Hep B is and how stable it is on surfaces (from other people is the 2nd most common way children are infected, after childbirth).

When you choose not to vaccinate even though you think the risk to you personally is low - even then - you chose the higher risk option.

DP to add, this risk calculation will inevitably tip more toward it being better to vaccinate the more our leaders push distrust in vaccination. People feel safe because we had a successful program, but now we will be weakening that program.

The true risks of vaccination have been hidden from the public while their benefits have been overstated. It’s going to shift the calculation on a lot of these in hopefully short order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adults also need the hep B vaccination every 10 years. How many of you are getting it every 10 years? How many of the general adult public are getting it every 10 years?

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I just asked DH this morning. I don't think we've ever received it. And, it's not like it's advertised like Shingles and pneumonia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adults also need the hep B vaccination every 10 years. How many of you are getting it every 10 years? How many of the general adult public are getting it every 10 years?

Every 10 years? Stop making things up. These hepB vax fascists are seriously nutty.

AAFP (2023)

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/fpm/issues/2023/0900/hepatitis-b-vaccination-recommendations.html

All of the current HepB vaccines provide long-term or lifelong immunity. Therefore, there is no need for a booster series for individuals who previously completed a HepB vaccine series. One population that may require a HepB booster are patients on hemodialysis. These patients have antibodies to hepatitis B su”ace antigen (anti-HBs) checked annually. If their anti-HBs are <10 mlU/mL, then a booster dose should be administered.

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One week of testing at most prior to approval

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear, historically, this is why the CDC ACIP recommended HepB vaccines for children.

"If adults won't go for the shots, then give them to children" - New York Times, March 1, 1991

And …? Beside the fact that this was over 30 years ago, there is nothing nefarious about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Birth canal.

But std tests are part of obgyn annual care…

People most at risk of Hepatitis B probably aren’t getting regular obgyn care. They might not even get regular prenatal care.

So why are we pushing more shots on all newborns?

Is this to camouflage the High Risk Moms amongst the and S T D Moms? Make everyone feel better?

Unlikely. It makes someone more money.

It’s both. We sacrifice healthy children so the unhealthy don’t feel targeted. It also provides a captive and legally shielded revenue stream.

What’s the craziest is all the people who want European style healthcare who freak out when we make our policies align with theirs more closely.

Are you really this dumb? Giving healthy children a vaccine is not “targeting healthy children.” It is keeping children healthy. If you don’t give your child a vaccine that literally prevents cancer, you are an idiot and a bad parent.