Thursday Nov 20 BOE Discussion on Boundaries and Regional Program Model

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

DP I don't personally know the history of Blair's SMCS. That being said, if what you are saying is true, isn't putting criteria based academic programs at Whitman and BCC that are only reasonably accessible to families with their own transportation a way to promote White flight?

Whitman and BCC are not the only places that will have criteria based academic programs. STEM won't be at either places, for example.

On Thursday they proposed an interest based engineering program at BCC. It will not attract kids struggling in math. 75% of Black students and 86% of Latino students in MCPS are not proficient in high school math.

[Anonymous]

Einstein and Blair are slated to have criteria based academic programs, but Einstein's program will be brand new, and half assed. Not going to attract any students from BCC or Whitman. Blair SMCS program teachers have already talked about leaving Blair for other programs so it will become less attractive. As it is, very few kids from Whitman or BCC travel to Blair. In Region 1, Whitman and BCC will gain disproportionately White and Wealthy students on net and Einstein and Northwood will most certainly lose students on net. They have admitted this when they say the regional program model impacts the boundary study. If the regional program model would not have impacts on enrollment at any schools they could not say that it impacts the boundary study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

How racist you are. No matter what, Blair is being benefited from hosting magnet program, which is filled with majority of Asians. Will you create an “Asian flight” terminology to make it sounds less racist? Ultimately the majority of parents care about education quality and opportunities, not the skin of color.

And only let white-privileged HSs hosting future criteria-based programs? Taylor must be very much in the same mindset with you.

You're stupid idiot. You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. Why don't you read on the history of SMCS at Blair before spewing out venons and manure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Einstein and Blair are slated to have criteria based academic programs, but Einstein's program will be brand new, and half assed. Not going to attract any students from BCC or Whitman. Blair SMCS program teachers have already talked about leaving Blair for other programs so it will become less attractive. As it is, very few kids from Whitman or BCC travel to Blair. In Region 1, Whitman and BCC will gain disproportionately White and Wealthy students on net and Einstein and Northwood will most certainly lose students on net. They have admitted this when they say the regional program model impacts the boundary study. If the regional program model would not have impacts on enrollment at any schools they could not say that it impacts the boundary study.

Do the Blair SMCS teachers know about that?
LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

How racist you are. No matter what, Blair is being benefited from hosting magnet program, which is filled with majority of Asians. Will you create an “Asian flight” terminology to make it sounds less racist? Ultimately the majority of parents care about education quality and opportunities, not the skin of color.

And only let white-privileged HSs hosting future criteria-based programs? Taylor must be very much in the same mindset with you.

You're stupid idiot. You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. Why don't you read on the history of SMCS at Blair before spewing out venons and manure.

DP

Please feel free to provide links

And this narrative about Blair SMCS and the DCC being created to STEM white flight as a justification to dismantle them is a bizarre insinuation that the people who want to keep these programs are just racist white flighters.

White flight certainly occurs in part due to individual bias among White people but also because of a lack of resources in majority Black and Brown school communities relative to the need. Putting more resources in Wealthy White schools is not an anti-racist approach. Quite the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Einstein and Blair are slated to have criteria based academic programs, but Einstein's program will be brand new, and half assed. Not going to attract any students from BCC or Whitman. Blair SMCS program teachers have already talked about leaving Blair for other programs so it will become less attractive. As it is, very few kids from Whitman or BCC travel to Blair. In Region 1, Whitman and BCC will gain disproportionately White and Wealthy students on net and Einstein and Northwood will most certainly lose students on net. They have admitted this when they say the regional program model impacts the boundary study. If the regional program model would not have impacts on enrollment at any schools they could not say that it impacts the boundary study.

Do the Blair SMCS teachers know about that?
LOL

Yes, they have said this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Einstein and Blair are slated to have criteria based academic programs, but Einstein's program will be brand new, and half assed. Not going to attract any students from BCC or Whitman. Blair SMCS program teachers have already talked about leaving Blair for other programs so it will become less attractive. As it is, very few kids from Whitman or BCC travel to Blair. In Region 1, Whitman and BCC will gain disproportionately White and Wealthy students on net and Einstein and Northwood will most certainly lose students on net. They have admitted this when they say the regional program model impacts the boundary study. If the regional program model would not have impacts on enrollment at any schools they could not say that it impacts the boundary study.

Do the Blair SMCS teachers know about that?
LOL

Yes, they have said this

Sure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Einstein and Blair are slated to have criteria based academic programs, but Einstein's program will be brand new, and half assed. Not going to attract any students from BCC or Whitman. Blair SMCS program teachers have already talked about leaving Blair for other programs so it will become less attractive. As it is, very few kids from Whitman or BCC travel to Blair. In Region 1, Whitman and BCC will gain disproportionately White and Wealthy students on net and Einstein and Northwood will most certainly lose students on net. They have admitted this when they say the regional program model impacts the boundary study. If the regional program model would not have impacts on enrollment at any schools they could not say that it impacts the boundary study.

Do the Blair SMCS teachers know about that?
LOL

Yes, they have said this

Sure

Of course you reject things that aren't convenient for your narrative. Of course teachers that love upcounty will opt for shorter commutes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

How racist you are. No matter what, Blair is being benefited from hosting magnet program, which is filled with majority of Asians. Will you create an “Asian flight” terminology to make it sounds less racist? Ultimately the majority of parents care about education quality and opportunities, not the skin of color.

And only let white-privileged HSs hosting future criteria-based programs? Taylor must be very much in the same mindset with you.

You're stupid idiot. You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. Why don't you read on the history of SMCS at Blair before spewing out venons and manure.

DP

Please feel free to provide links

And this narrative about Blair SMCS and the DCC being created to STEM white flight as a justification to dismantle them is a bizarre insinuation that the people who want to keep these programs are just racist white flighters.

White flight certainly occurs in part due to individual bias among White people but also because of a lack of resources in majority Black and Brown school communities relative to the need. Putting more resources in Wealthy White schools is not an anti-racist approach. Quite the opposite.

No one said the DCC was created to stem white flight, that's your way of manipulating what was said.
What was said: SMCS was placed at Blair to stem white flight. Which is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

How racist you are. No matter what, Blair is being benefited from hosting magnet program, which is filled with majority of Asians. Will you create an “Asian flight” terminology to make it sounds less racist? Ultimately the majority of parents care about education quality and opportunities, not the skin of color.

And only let white-privileged HSs hosting future criteria-based programs? Taylor must be very much in the same mindset with you.

You're stupid idiot. You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. Why don't you read on the history of SMCS at Blair before spewing out venons and manure.

DP

Please feel free to provide links

And this narrative about Blair SMCS and the DCC being created to STEM white flight as a justification to dismantle them is a bizarre insinuation that the people who want to keep these programs are just racist white flighters.

White flight certainly occurs in part due to individual bias among White people but also because of a lack of resources in majority Black and Brown school communities relative to the need. Putting more resources in Wealthy White schools is not an anti-racist approach. Quite the opposite.

No one said the DCC was created to stem white flight, that's your way of manipulating what was said.
What was said: SMCS was placed at Blair to stem white flight. Which is true.

Ok. So what do you think will be the impact of placing criteria based academic programs - IB and humanities (plus an interest based engineering program) - BCC and Whitman? Do White people not flee anymore?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

How racist you are. No matter what, Blair is being benefited from hosting magnet program, which is filled with majority of Asians. Will you create an “Asian flight” terminology to make it sounds less racist? Ultimately the majority of parents care about education quality and opportunities, not the skin of color.

And only let white-privileged HSs hosting future criteria-based programs? Taylor must be very much in the same mindset with you.

You're stupid idiot. You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. Why don't you read on the history of SMCS at Blair before spewing out venons and manure.

DP

Please feel free to provide links

And this narrative about Blair SMCS and the DCC being created to STEM white flight as a justification to dismantle them is a bizarre insinuation that the people who want to keep these programs are just racist white flighters.

White flight certainly occurs in part due to individual bias among White people but also because of a lack of resources in majority Black and Brown school communities relative to the need. Putting more resources in Wealthy White schools is not an anti-racist approach. Quite the opposite.

No one said the DCC was created to stem white flight, that's your way of manipulating what was said.
What was said: SMCS was placed at Blair to stem white flight. Which is true.

Ok. So what do you think will be the impact of placing criteria based academic programs - IB and humanities (plus an interest based engineering program) - BCC and Whitman? Do White people not flee anymore?

PP's silence is deafening

[Anonymous]

What is white flight?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is white flight?

Look it up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

DP I don't personally know the history of Blair's SMCS. That being said, if what you are saying is true, isn't putting criteria based academic programs at Whitman and BCC that are only reasonably accessible to families with their own transportation a way to promote White flight?

Whitman and BCC are not the only places that will have criteria based academic programs. STEM won't be at either places, for example.

On Thursday they proposed an interest based engineering program at BCC. It will not attract kids struggling in math. 75% of Black students and 86% of Latino students in MCPS are not proficient in high school math.

And the 14-25 percent who are will have a good program to apply to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw an equity mindset would mean placing programs in schools that have gaps. Like if there are zero advanced science classes at a school, put a science program there.

They are doing the opposite. They are putting programs at schools that already have the classes. Then they proposing having certain kids from other schools get driven by their parents to their home school to take a bus to this school that already has these classes to take them.

Highlighted sentence is exactly the reason why SMCS was originally established at Blair. Wootton and Churchill kids sacrifice long bus ride for an excellent education, and kids living in DCC area also benefits from (Blair kids can freely take any magnet class as long as prerequisite is met and counselor approves). CO can move this program to Kennedy or Gaithersburg. It’ll still be excellent and filled with majority of W kids. They can add one more closer to Ws so to allow more access. Dismantling it completely and make 6…… that’s as crazy as it sounds like.

No.
Keep repeating that same lie, doesn't make it true.
The magnet was placed there to stem white flight.

How racist you are. No matter what, Blair is being benefited from hosting magnet program, which is filled with majority of Asians. Will you create an “Asian flight” terminology to make it sounds less racist? Ultimately the majority of parents care about education quality and opportunities, not the skin of color.

And only let white-privileged HSs hosting future criteria-based programs? Taylor must be very much in the same mindset with you.

You're stupid idiot. You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. Why don't you read on the history of SMCS at Blair before spewing out venons and manure.

DP

Please feel free to provide links

And this narrative about Blair SMCS and the DCC being created to STEM white flight as a justification to dismantle them is a bizarre insinuation that the people who want to keep these programs are just racist white flighters.

White flight certainly occurs in part due to individual bias among White people but also because of a lack of resources in majority Black and Brown school communities relative to the need. Putting more resources in Wealthy White schools is not an anti-racist approach. Quite the opposite.

No one said the DCC was created to stem white flight, that's your way of manipulating what was said.
What was said: SMCS was placed at Blair to stem white flight. Which is true.

Ok. So what do you think will be the impact of placing criteria based academic programs - IB and humanities (plus an interest based engineering program) - BCC and Whitman? Do White people not flee anymore?

Minimal.