Now Virginia Democrats want to redraw congressional districts

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the sample ballot.
I cannot believe this extremely biased “restore fairness” language was allowed in the ballot. Fairness to who?
There is no fairness in disenfranchising the majority of Virginia outside of NoVA.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. I’m tired of these massive pendulum swings and power grabs. The way to prevent another Trump from happening is not to grab as much power as possible and push far left policies that inevitably result in a backlash. Find your middle, find your critics, and listen to them!

Signed, Non-MAGA NoVA resident.

In this case, two wrongs DO make a right. What do you suggest we do here, just let Republicans gerrymander away and do nothing to respond in kind? The GOP has consistently defeated anti gerrymandering legislation introduced in Congress by Dems. They engage in blatant acts of voter suppression and are redistricting at Trump's directions specifically to disenfranchise Democratic voters. You obviously are willing to roll over because you are comfortable that the GOP will not come for YOU anytime soon. Some of us don't have that luxury, so respectfully, you can take your moderate do-nothing nonsense and stuff it.

It won't work unless you get some other blue states to "legally" gerrymander as well. It's too little too late.

That’s literally what the Virginia referendum is for.

Virginia by itself will not make a bit of difference. It doesn't have enough representatives. The referendum has no impact on other purple states.

The referendum, if passed, neutralizes the Texas mid-decade redistricting ordered by Trump (and I will note, not approved by the people with a referendum.) So it has an impact on the entir House which is what it was designed to achieve. I’m not sure you understand what’s going on.

Texas isn't the only state that is redistricting. Missouri and North Carolina are also getting in on the action. Further, no one is certain what the outcome will be in either case. To state that this will restore fairness is without basis.

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Anonymous wrote:I plan on voting no. Subdividing NOVA into however many parts and attaching each to a different rural constituency is the opposite of what I consider to be "fair".

The line dissects my neighborhood street - this is a small place, and we and a few neighbors would be in a different district from my other neighbors. I don’t care that they did this TX.. it will have unintended consequences there, too. I don’t live there, I live here. And it’s a “no” from me. However, they act as if it’s already passed!

What's the "unintended consequence" of you being in a different district from your neighbors? No matter where you draw the district lines, some people will always be in a different district than their neighbors. Who cares.

This.

MAGA doesn't care about neighbors - it's fear mongering. Vote YES on the referendum.

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Vote yes!

Time to even the playing field.

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Anonymous wrote:No vote for me - I think we need more purple states. It prevents either party from letting their fringe get too much control, and if they do, it usually means that other party will be in for the next four years.
In the US today, citizens need guard rails on both political parties.

Republicans have ZERO guard rails at the moment if you haven’t noticed.

Balancing Congress might help.

Vote YES.

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Yeah, somehow this is being talked about as if it’s fair but I have no idea how it’s fair to have people in northern va have a say on what’s important for folks in Shenandoah or central va. Most of va, geographically has very different concerns than what folks care about in nova. This redistricting policy basically ignore those folks outside of nova. Everyone needs to look at the proposed maps before they vote and think long and hard about what’s fair. The people who are saying this is fair are looking for support to ease their conscience on doing something very wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, somehow this is being talked about as if it’s fair but I have no idea how it’s fair to have people in northern va have a say on what’s important for folks in Shenandoah or central va. Most of va, geographically has very different concerns than what folks care about in nova. This redistricting policy basically ignore those folks outside of nova. Everyone needs to look at the proposed maps before they vote and think long and hard about what’s fair. The people who are saying this is fair are looking for support to ease their conscience on doing something very wrong.

It’s not fair at all. But republicans haven’t been fair on a national level, so this is the response. I don’t like it but I’ll be voting yes.

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Anonymous wrote:I plan on voting no. Subdividing NOVA into however many parts and attaching each to a different rural constituency is the opposite of what I consider to be "fair".

The line dissects my neighborhood street - this is a small place, and we and a few neighbors would be in a different district from my other neighbors. I don’t care that they did this TX.. it will have unintended consequences there, too. I don’t live there, I live here. And it’s a “no” from me. However, they act as if it’s already passed!

You're probably a Republican and so of course you're against it. Democrats understand the stakes and will vote for it, and that's enough to get it to pass.

You’re wrong, never voted R. But the insults and dismissive comments (not by you) seriously give me pause. To the “who cares” and worse commenters; we neighbors often meet with our delegate over very real local issues and concerns. So now we shall invite TWO different ones who don’t live anywhere within a 100 mile radius? They won’t come. We are neighbors bound by other firm lines together already, paying into the same pot of money for tangible stuff we do and need. And I’m not talking about a major thoroughfare dissected, this is a small neighborhood street. If it was just us, oh well, but I imagine there are many others who also have their communities dissected by this haphazard gerrymandering, clearly carried out thoughtlessly, and it sickens me that the new delegates already divvied up which swaths they will take over. They’ve been unopposed for too long apparently, taking their wins for granted.

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Anonymous wrote:No vote for me - I think we need more purple states. It prevents either party from letting their fringe get too much control, and if they do, it usually means that other party will be in for the next four years.
In the US today, citizens need guard rails on both political parties.

The whole country would be better off, if all states were purple, then they actually would have to make an effort to win and be held accountable. Our current state of affairs is that candidates only plan campaigns in 6 states, the rest don’t matter. How is that a fair and great system?! And gerrymandering is the same on the local level.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, somehow this is being talked about as if it’s fair but I have no idea how it’s fair to have people in northern va have a say on what’s important for folks in Shenandoah or central va. Most of va, geographically has very different concerns than what folks care about in nova. This redistricting policy basically ignore those folks outside of nova. Everyone needs to look at the proposed maps before they vote and think long and hard about what’s fair. The people who are saying this is fair are looking for support to ease their conscience on doing something very wrong.

I am in N Arlington and agree. Dems don't care about rural folks. That perception is why Trump won. Dems just keep repeating mistakes. I voted No.

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There are enough people leaving California and New York to turn a few more areas purple. That will help mitigate some hard traditionally red regions.