$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

[Anonymous]

Companies employing H-1B foreign workers seeking a green card are required to advertise roles to American-born workers, but those job ads in local newspapers are allegedly targeting immigrants instead.

"Americans are not aware that major companies are routinely discriminating against them for the simple fact of being Americans in their own country," the team behind Jobs.Now, a website seeking out H-1B roles to share them with Americans, told Newsweek on condition their identities were kept anonymous.

https://www.newsweek.com/h1b-job-ads-green-cards-targeted-immigrant-workers-2113714

A mysterious new job listings website recently went live, solely showing roles companies want to offer to their H-1B holders seeking Green Cards in an attempt to get Americans into the jobs instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Companies employing H-1B foreign workers seeking a green card are required to advertise roles to American-born workers, but those job ads in local newspapers are allegedly targeting immigrants instead.

"Americans are not aware that major companies are routinely discriminating against them for the simple fact of being Americans in their own country," the team behind Jobs.Now, a website seeking out H-1B roles to share them with Americans, told Newsweek on condition their identities were kept anonymous.

https://www.newsweek.com/h1b-job-ads-green-cards-targeted-immigrant-workers-2113714

A mysterious new job listings website recently went live, solely showing roles companies want to offer to their H-1B holders seeking Green Cards in an attempt to get Americans into the jobs instead.

The meta and apple lawsuits were enlightening. There are these rules they can't tell you they are only "testing" the market to see if there are Americans.

Thanks DOL. Where is my lawyer during this unwarranted search, when do we get to cross examine after the company's line of hostile questions? Do you or do you not know "Java Beans." If they are "protecting me" why do, they have to keep it a secret?

The good news is Trump's DOL has started Project Firewall in conjunction with h-1b fee: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osec/osec20250919

Though it remains to be seen if they are just trying to fix the PERM's that are basically just broken now that American labor knows what they are doing. I personally apply for as many of these PERM positions as I can. I was doing it even before that one website went live.

[Anonymous]

We’ve got 12M STEM-qualified Americans with no jobs. Send the foreign students and H1Bs home.

Those jobs belong to American citizens, Hispanic, black, white, Asian, Muslim. If you want earlier families, earlier marriages, real opportunity, then stop crushing the next generation and give them the jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually support this one. The program has been abused to put American grads out of jobs and undercut labor. If you’re going to outsource, outsource. You don’t need to import your entire workforce here and hold them hostage on visas only you control.

I’ll go a step further:

In addition to charging companies waaaaay more to import workers, we must also charge them an astronomical amount to outsource.

ICYMI: we need to keep more jobs here in the US. The only “people” who benefit from outsourcing are companies.

PS: Both Dems and Republicans played a role in this mess. Both are complicit when it comes to prioritizing corporations over people when evaluating the policies around outsourcing and importing labor.

Signed,

Lifelong Democrat who is over it

[Anonymous]

The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

[Anonymous]

The irony in the argument we need the skills set of the H1B immigrants is, we are talking about the cutting edge innovation and technological advances created by Americans right here in the U.S. with very little help from these H1B workers.

They're riding the coattails of American innovation. The argument that we can't find Americans to do the work is specious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

You clearly don't work in big tech.

They will just offshore the jobs.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/silicon-valley-hiring-turmoil-after-new-h-1b-visa-fees-move-spurs-offshoring-2025-09-23/

"I have had several conversations with corporate clients ... where they have said this new fee is simply unworkable in the U.S., and it's time for us to start looking for other countries where we can have highly skilled talent," said Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney at Colorado-based law firm Holland & Hart.

Much like Trump's promise to bring back the manufacturing jobs, this latest chaotic EO won't create thousands of high paying jobs for your kids.

And I say this as someone whose child is a CS/math major graduating in 2 years. But, I've worked in the tech sector long enough to know that companies aren't going to all of a sudden want to hire expensive American workers if they can get a worker for 30% of the cost, even if it means only 30% productivity. Corporate heads want to cut costs; they don't care about workers having to deal with crap work product.

People are super naive and gullible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

You clearly don't work in big tech.

They will just offshore the jobs.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/silicon-valley-hiring-turmoil-after-new-h-1b-visa-fees-move-spurs-offshoring-2025-09-23/

"I have had several conversations with corporate clients ... where they have said this new fee is simply unworkable in the U.S., and it's time for us to start looking for other countries where we can have highly skilled talent," said Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney at Colorado-based law firm Holland & Hart.

Much like Trump's promise to bring back the manufacturing jobs, this latest chaotic EO won't create thousands of high paying jobs for your kids.

And I say this as someone whose child is a CS/math major graduating in 2 years. But, I've worked in the tech sector long enough to know that companies aren't going to all of a sudden want to hire expensive American workers if they can get a worker for 30% of the cost, even if it means only 30% productivity. Corporate heads want to cut costs; they don't care about workers having to deal with crap work product.

People are super naive and gullible.

That is why you need other "incentives" to make it work out. Otherwise its a race to the bottom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The irony in the argument we need the skills set of the H1B immigrants is, we are talking about the cutting edge innovation and technological advances created by Americans right here in the U.S. with very little help from these H1B workers.

They're riding the coattails of American innovation. The argument that we can't find Americans to do the work is specious.

A lot of patents have been created by immigrant workers.

A new study shows immigrants produce a significant percentage of innovations in America and make U.S.-born individuals more inventive. The findings support other research that concludes the United States gains from more welcoming immigration policies. The study almost certainly understates the contribution of immigrants by not including individuals who immigrated before the age of 20.

“We find immigrants represent 16% of all U.S. inventors, but produced 23% of total innovation output, as measured by number of patents, patent citations, and the economic value of these patents,” according to a National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

You clearly don't work in big tech.

They will just offshore the jobs.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/silicon-valley-hiring-turmoil-after-new-h-1b-visa-fees-move-spurs-offshoring-2025-09-23/

"I have had several conversations with corporate clients ... where they have said this new fee is simply unworkable in the U.S., and it's time for us to start looking for other countries where we can have highly skilled talent," said Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney at Colorado-based law firm Holland & Hart.

Much like Trump's promise to bring back the manufacturing jobs, this latest chaotic EO won't create thousands of high paying jobs for your kids.

And I say this as someone whose child is a CS/math major graduating in 2 years. But, I've worked in the tech sector long enough to know that companies aren't going to all of a sudden want to hire expensive American workers if they can get a worker for 30% of the cost, even if it means only 30% productivity. Corporate heads want to cut costs; they don't care about workers having to deal with crap work product.

People are super naive and gullible.

That is why you need other "incentives" to make it work out. Otherwise its a race to the bottom.

But that's not what Trump did. Once again, his EOs aren't well thought out, written, planned or executed. It's like he hired a bunch of ineffective h1 visa workers in the WH. I find it funny that people here complain about how awful those H1 workers on when we have Trump hiring workers who are just as bad to work in the WH, and we taxpayers are paying and suffering for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

You clearly don't work in big tech.

They will just offshore the jobs.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/silicon-valley-hiring-turmoil-after-new-h-1b-visa-fees-move-spurs-offshoring-2025-09-23/

"I have had several conversations with corporate clients ... where they have said this new fee is simply unworkable in the U.S., and it's time for us to start looking for other countries where we can have highly skilled talent," said Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney at Colorado-based law firm Holland & Hart.

Much like Trump's promise to bring back the manufacturing jobs, this latest chaotic EO won't create thousands of high paying jobs for your kids.

And I say this as someone whose child is a CS/math major graduating in 2 years. But, I've worked in the tech sector long enough to know that companies aren't going to all of a sudden want to hire expensive American workers if they can get a worker for 30% of the cost, even if it means only 30% productivity. Corporate heads want to cut costs; they don't care about workers having to deal with crap work product.

People are super naive and gullible.

No but you can research it, they say that it doesn't lower wages. That is literally what they say. Not trying to be sarcastic here. How can it hurt businesses when it doesn't lower wages like they say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

Amazing, that's not true though the program doesn't lower wages. Sigh, how do you know a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving.

You clearly don't work in big tech.

They will just offshore the jobs.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/silicon-valley-hiring-turmoil-after-new-h-1b-visa-fees-move-spurs-offshoring-2025-09-23/

"I have had several conversations with corporate clients ... where they have said this new fee is simply unworkable in the U.S., and it's time for us to start looking for other countries where we can have highly skilled talent," said Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney at Colorado-based law firm Holland & Hart.

Much like Trump's promise to bring back the manufacturing jobs, this latest chaotic EO won't create thousands of high paying jobs for your kids.

And I say this as someone whose child is a CS/math major graduating in 2 years. But, I've worked in the tech sector long enough to know that companies aren't going to all of a sudden want to hire expensive American workers if they can get a worker for 30% of the cost, even if it means only 30% productivity. Corporate heads want to cut costs; they don't care about workers having to deal with crap work product.

People are super naive and gullible.

No but you can research it, they say that it doesn't lower wages. That is literally what they say. Not trying to be sarcastic here. How can it hurt businesses when it doesn't lower wages like they say.

If they offshore the job (which will happen to many of those jobs), there won't be jobs for Americans, or the tax revenue for that matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

I would support a surtax on any American company that offshores labor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSj editorial board weighs on tge H1B debate:

“If companies aren’t allowed to hire foreign workers in the U.S. because they are too expensive, they’ll go abroad. There will be fewer startups and less innovation. This will not help the U.S. in the AI race with China.”

And this.

“Federal law doesn’t give the President carte blanche authority to set visa fees, so he’s invoking a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that lets a President restrict entry of foreigners to protect national security.

He claims, again without evidence, that the H-1B program is a national-security threat.
As with his willy-nilly tariffs, he’s abusing his national-security powers. His order may violate the Supreme Court’s major questions doctrine, which says the President needs clear authorization from Congress for economically significant actions.”

I would support a surtax on any American company that offshores labor.

But that's not going to happen. And even if it did, that cost would be passed on to you, the consumer. So, basically, you are paying more for goods and services because of tariffs and immigration policies.

I recall not that long ago how people were complaining about inflation, but now all of a sudden some people are good with paying more for things all while we get nothing in return. No job creation, no better great healthcare, zilch.