School Supplies lists and Janitorial Supplies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, schools should provide these things. Neither parents nor teachers should have to do it. But the schools don’t. So, acc to you, it’s up to the teachers.

Amazingly petty.

According to me, it’s up to the school. If the school isn’t providing these things they have a responsibility to tell the parents.

I think it’s pretty clear the teachers are telling you they aren’t provided. Hence the requests!

[Anonymous]

Actually would love if the teachers union ( or FCPS but they don’t want to know the real answer so will skip asking!) could take a poll on this matter: how many classroom teachers spend their own $$ on cleaning supplies and/or tissues and/or supplementing basic school supplies and what is the estimated amount of these purchases each year. I bet it is a lot higher and more pervasive than one might think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, schools should provide these things. Neither parents nor teachers should have to do it. But the schools don’t. So, acc to you, it’s up to the teachers.

Amazingly petty.

According to me, it’s up to the school. If the school isn’t providing these things they have a responsibility to tell the parents.

I think it’s pretty clear the teachers are telling you they aren’t provided. Hence the requests!

And so what parents should be doing is asking the principals why. Not deciding it’s the new expense for the parents to cover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

It’s very obnoxious to request teachers spend their own time/money/effort because FCPS is unable to supply basic cleaning and hygiene supplies. Rather than directing your anger towards the teacher who is asking for needed items to do their job, direct it towards figuring out why so many teachers across the county feel the need to request these items. When this issue is so widespread and occurs at both low and high income schools all across the county, stop & think for a minute why that might be!

You don’t need Clorox wipes to do your job. Please be serious.

But to your point, yes, parents should be contacting the school board to ask why there is enough money for endless extras but not enough money in the budget— though it’s in the budget— for janitorial supplies. Then they will either be told the supplies are in fact purchased for the school, or that the school is in violation of health codes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

It’s very obnoxious to request teachers spend their own time/money/effort because FCPS is unable to supply basic cleaning and hygiene supplies. Rather than directing your anger towards the teacher who is asking for needed items to do their job, direct it towards figuring out why so many teachers across the county feel the need to request these items. When this issue is so widespread and occurs at both low and high income schools all across the county, stop & think for a minute why that might be!

You don’t need Clorox wipes to do your job. Please be serious.

But to your point, yes, parents should be contacting the school board to ask why there is enough money for endless extras but not enough money in the budget— though it’s in the budget— for janitorial supplies. Then they will either be told the supplies are in fact purchased for the school, or that the school is in violation of health codes.

I think it was already explained earlier in this thread but children make messes all day and so yes, cleaning up after them is part of the job. Teachers need to be able to quickly do this so they can transition to their next activity, teaching!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

I think it’s twofold: there are subpar cleaning supplies provided and in addition, there are not enough supplies provided to begin with. So not only do the tissues/paper towels suck so you need to use 4x as many of them, there were never enough to begin with so they run out quickly. Again, if teachers are consistently asking for these items, year after year and it keeps happening across the county, isn’t this a question that should be directed towards leadership rather than individual teachers? This is not some one-off situation, as noted it is pretty pervasive across the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

Who is buying supplies “for the teacher”? They are supplies that benefit the whole class. It’s not like the teacher is taking them home to wipe down his/her kitchen counter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

Who is buying supplies “for the teacher”? They are supplies that benefit the whole class. It’s not like the teacher is taking them home to wipe down his/her kitchen counter.

+1

The supplies are helping the teacher maintain a clean space to teach their class in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

Who is buying supplies “for the teacher”? They are supplies that benefit the whole class. It’s not like the teacher is taking them home to wipe down his/her kitchen counter.

This. I wipe down student desks and computers to help keep students germ free. Our janitorial crew does not wipe down student desks, tables, or computers, and I am trying to help students stay healthy and not transmit illnesses among them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, schools should provide these things. Neither parents nor teachers should have to do it. But the schools don’t. So, acc to you, it’s up to the teachers.

Amazingly petty.

According to me, it’s up to the school. If the school isn’t providing these things they have a responsibility to tell the parents.

I think it’s pretty clear the teachers are telling you they aren’t provided. Hence the requests!

And so what parents should be doing is asking the principals why. Not deciding it’s the new expense for the parents to cover.

It’s fine for parents to advocate, but in the mean time when kids are spreading germs now the solution shouldn’t be that teachers pay out of their pocket to keep your kid healthy while your proposal to change school funding takes years to go through.

[Anonymous]

I have been a teacher in FCPS for a decade. The only time the school provided wipes was during the pandemic. Specialists teachers (music, ESOL, special ed, speech, AAP, etc) do not get anything from the school. I always give them some supplies to start off and hope other classroom teachers do the same.

I’ve spent thousands of my own dollars on things for my classroom (hundreds each year.) People on here are absolutely ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

I am given the opportunity to send kids to the bathroom to come back with wet and dry brown paper towels that don’t absorb water, leave a drippy mess, and don’t kill germs, they just spread them out, and make the desks too wet to work on. They also would run out fast if we used them for cleaning, and then I would be forced to wait a week before I moved the drippy germs around the desks.