School Supplies lists and Janitorial Supplies

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Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

I am given the opportunity to send kids to the bathroom to come back with wet and dry brown paper towels that don’t absorb water, leave a drippy mess, and don’t kill germs, they just spread them out, and make the desks too wet to work on. They also would run out fast if we used them for cleaning, and then I would be forced to wait a week before I moved the drippy germs around the desks.

So if someone buys you a $1.25 spray bottle and a $1.25 bottle of bleach to dilute with the (free) water and wipe down with the (free) paper towels that you dislike because they’re recycled, is that fine? Or does it have to be the absolute most expensive and wasteful product available in order to properly kill the UMC germs you’re dealing with?

What does class have to do with germs, other than the fact that keeping germs out of the classroom is a higher priority for people who don't have the option to work from home when they or their kids are sick?

Properly diluted Clorox and water spray left on desks to dry overnight (so no one has to have the indignity of using Brown paper towels) will kill more germs and be less environmentally wasteful than using Clorox or Lysol wipes. It will also cost $4.00 for the year.

So I have no idea why teachers in this area can only kill germs with the expensive environmental disaster products, I assume the germs are picky.

I’m curious. Is that the cleaning technique you use at home? Why / why not? If it’s that sensible as a cleaning strategy, everyone would be doing it like that, right? Of course kids sneeze during the school day too, and bleach (no need to spring for brand name Clorox, right?) has a few hazardous effects, not to mention possibly ruining some kid’s expensive fluff if they get to close to a damp spray, but that IS a point there. I say just leave the cleaning up to whatever the custodial staff can — or can’t— do. If kids and teachers get sick, so be it.

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Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

I am given the opportunity to send kids to the bathroom to come back with wet and dry brown paper towels that don’t absorb water, leave a drippy mess, and don’t kill germs, they just spread them out, and make the desks too wet to work on. They also would run out fast if we used them for cleaning, and then I would be forced to wait a week before I moved the drippy germs around the desks.

So if someone buys you a $1.25 spray bottle and a $1.25 bottle of bleach to dilute with the (free) water and wipe down with the (free) paper towels that you dislike because they’re recycled, is that fine? Or does it have to be the absolute most expensive and wasteful product available in order to properly kill the UMC germs you’re dealing with?

What does class have to do with germs, other than the fact that keeping germs out of the classroom is a higher priority for people who don't have the option to work from home when they or their kids are sick?

Properly diluted Clorox and water spray left on desks to dry overnight (so no one has to have the indignity of using Brown paper towels) will kill more germs and be less environmentally wasteful than using Clorox or Lysol wipes. It will also cost $4.00 for the year.

So I have no idea why teachers in this area can only kill germs with the expensive environmental disaster products, I assume the germs are picky.

When a kid sneezes all over a desk, that another kid will be sitting at in 5 minutes, the solution is not to leave it wet to dry overnight.

Exactly.

I’m the teacher who posted above. I’ve been at this long enough that I can watch how viruses take over classes.

Student A comes with a 102 fever because he’s an AP student who doesn’t want to miss classes. He has his head down on his desk most of the period right next to the pile of soaked tissues he collects on the desk. (He maybe throws them away. Sometimes I do.)

He gives the gift of his germs to the 3-4 kids around him, who show up sick 3-5 days later. (They also won’t stay home- AP classes.) The kid who sits there during the next period usually comes in sick, too.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

Yup. It would be very hard on a lot of people, but teachers should just stop cleaning. Of course the kids will have a lot more absences as they repeatedly re-infect each other, and there will probably be less instructional time, since the teachers themselves will be out more frequently with their own illnesses. At the end of the year, maybe learning will have suffered. There might be fewer SAT vocabulary words reviewed in class, or a lot more lethargic kids and less than stellar group projects that, not incidentally, support social skills. But, hey! At least no one is begging parents for upscale sanitizing wipes. When little Timmy misses out on some future opportunities by fractions of points, it will apparently be worth it — because a few parents who could easily have done better chose not too.

I’m thinking back to the many times I watched kids sneeze on desks, and, occasionally even drool. How many parents wish I had just left it there for their kid?

But will it? I have already gotten a very aggressive sounding email from my child's school about the importance of attendance and the legal consequences I will face if my child misses too much school. I have a high achieving child who already misses very little school due to her being afraid of consequences and not because of her amazing health

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Anonymous wrote:School supplies should be school supplies. No baby wipes, no Clorox wipes, no tissues, no paper towels. Use what the school provides and what taxpayers have already PAID FOR! she should have cleaning spray they have toilet tissue they have paper towels. It’s very obnoxious to request parents to spend more money because you prefer something better than what’s already been purchased. This has to stop.

Teachers are not requesting “better” items… they are simply requesting the needed items that THEY DON’T HAVE or DON’T HAVE ENOUGH OF. No one is holding a tissue drive because they have a brand preference, they are holding a tissue drive because they have NO tissues! Same with cleaning supplies. There are not enough custodians to do the deep cleaning that is needed to maintain clean classroom spaces, so that falls to classroom teachers. Teachers are requesting these supplies because they don’t have them ! You seriously think all the teachers out there that ask for these items are asking because they are being snotty about a particular brand of tissue ?!

What a teacher on this thread said was she asks for wipes from parents because that’s easier than requesting paper towels in advance and using the provided cleaning spray. She prefers Clorox wipes and so asks the parents.

She prefers the Clorox wipes because the school provided paper towels suck for actual cleaning. Imagine using something equivalent to those super thin free gas station napkins to clean your house. Subpar cleaning result and lots of wasted time and effort. That is why there is a preference for the Clorox wipes, because they quickly and effectively get the job done.

Sure, but the PP ahead of you is saying that teachers aren’t requesting supplies because they don’t like what’s been given— which is exactly why you’re saying they’re requesting supplies.

I am sure you are right that Clorox wipes are nicer. The question is why it’s a parents job to buy a teacher nicer supplies.

I am given the opportunity to send kids to the bathroom to come back with wet and dry brown paper towels that don’t absorb water, leave a drippy mess, and don’t kill germs, they just spread them out, and make the desks too wet to work on. They also would run out fast if we used them for cleaning, and then I would be forced to wait a week before I moved the drippy germs around the desks.

So if someone buys you a $1.25 spray bottle and a $1.25 bottle of bleach to dilute with the (free) water and wipe down with the (free) paper towels that you dislike because they’re recycled, is that fine? Or does it have to be the absolute most expensive and wasteful product available in order to properly kill the UMC germs you’re dealing with?

What does class have to do with germs, other than the fact that keeping germs out of the classroom is a higher priority for people who don't have the option to work from home when they or their kids are sick?

Properly diluted Clorox and water spray left on desks to dry overnight (so no one has to have the indignity of using Brown paper towels) will kill more germs and be less environmentally wasteful than using Clorox or Lysol wipes. It will also cost $4.00 for the year.

So I have no idea why teachers in this area can only kill germs with the expensive environmental disaster products, I assume the germs are picky.

I’m curious. Is that the cleaning technique you use at home? Why / why not? If it’s that sensible as a cleaning strategy, everyone would be doing it like that, right? Of course kids sneeze during the school day too, and bleach (no need to spring for brand name Clorox, right?) has a few hazardous effects, not to mention possibly ruining some kid’s expensive fluff if they get to close to a damp spray, but that IS a point there. I say just leave the cleaning up to whatever the custodial staff can — or can’t— do. If kids and teachers get sick, so be it.

Teacher here. I’d like to avoid getting sick, as much as possible. Making sub plans is dreadful, as is grading sub work. It’s working 8 hours to take 8 hours off.

I clean throughout the day to limit the germs residing in my classroom. Kids are visibly sick from October to April, it seems.

I do agree with you. The overnight method suggested above isn’t going to work.

[Anonymous]

As an UMC immigrant, I was shocked that k-12 education was free for everyone in public schools in US.

I feel absolutely ok to provide all supplies that the teachers ask for and some that they don't ask. I cannot afford for my kids to be sick.

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Just buy the darn wipes! Keep everybody as healthy as possible. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Trust me; teachers are not taking those wipes home for their personal use.

Also, sick high school and middle school students “get” spread their germs to multiple classrooms every day. Only wiping desks at the end of the day isn’t a solution.