+1. I’ve been a big advocate against this as a HS teacher and parent. This law or bill or whatever it is has made my job more difficult this past year. Now someone else is dictating how I need to run my classroom when I didn’t have problems before. I do not agree with this.
How exactly does it change how you run your classroom? Why would it be harder than before?
Did you just ignore cell phone use before? Assume it’s not interpreting students near the perpetrator?
Now with the pouches, any phone in sight is a violation, not just a phone in use. Is that what you are offended by, that your disregard for the problem is now more obvious?
I’m not going to get into a back and forth with you since you started replying to each teacher and don’t believe there are more than one of us that don’t support this.
No, I did not allow phone before. They were not a problem. Like the other teacher, I set that expectation on day 1 and did not have students watching TikToks in class or huge amounts trying to sneak them. If one needed to send a text occasionally, they would ask me “can I text my mom about ….” You would be surprised how polite and rule following most kids are.
So then the ban comes and now they are taboo. Now I have a battle with laptops and behavior issues with those, where I never did before. I am told under no circumstances can we see a phone and must do xyz if we do. This is not helpful. I had it under control. Now I have classes of angry kids, trying to get around things on computers because they feel like their cell rights are violated when we didn’t have a problem before.
I’m still unclear. Before the ban, what exactly were your expectations? Like what did you say? I’m sure there were occasional infractions, how did you handle them then? You never had a kid noodling on his phone?
Can elaborate on the laptops? I would support getting rid of those as well.
You want to take away laptops from high school students? You have just lost all credibility in this argument.
In class? Absolutely.
Many teachers have the students doing class assignments on the laptops during class.
Exactly. It's totally unrealistic and it doesn't make sense to take away laptops. My DD's teachers have them doing work in class on their laptops. They have block scheduling, and often part of the class is for teaching and part is for doing work/applying what they just learned. They access learning apps, do research, etc., on these laptops. APS has placed restrictions on them, so they can't access much beyond what's required for class.
Also, the world is tech based at this point and, honestly, they will use laptops throughout high school and college. SATs, APs - everything is online now. Kids need to learn how to live in a technology-oriented world. I can't even imagine them not having access to this stuff.
The internet is terrible for doing research. They should be in the library or have a textbook.
Learning apps are a complete joke, just a game to babysit while the work with high need kids or grade papers.
I’m in tech, you really should see how the leaders in tech are having their own kids learn.
Maybe that has changed in the last 6 years, but I suspect tech leaders have just gotten quieter about the private schools they send their kids.
The internet is terrible for research?? Have you ever heard of google scholar? Even when I was in grad school 15 years ago, most academic journals had moved online. If an elementary kid wants to learn about frogs— I agree, a book is better. But for a HS kid, it’s different. Kids enrolled in AP seminar & research have access to academic journals online the way college kids do. I think books are great, but it depends on what type of information you need, how specific, and how up to date.
You are talking about curated academic repositories, yes those are very helpful and online access is the standard now.
But 90% of students don’t need internet access to write their research paper on the civil war, because they won’t be able to filter though the wall of bad amateur “history” in their “research”. They aren’t looking at academic research like Google scholar, they should be referencing books not RebelBlog(tm).
DP. So clearly you don’t have kids in MS or HS.
Go away, troll.
Sorry I have kids in both. Why do you note refute with actual facts instead of some weird insult. What was wrong with what I said? The internet is the Wild West. Classwork is usually about lessons the teacher just instructed, and doesn’t need Google Scholar to augment.
If you actually had a kid in APS MS/HS you would know which resources they are required to use.
GTFO, troll.
I have my own job, I’m not inventorying the catalog of websites and apps that APS uses — most of it is bunk.
High school is mostly about learning fundamentals best structured in a textbook or a teachers curated lecture notes, and then learning how to find and extract and summarize from larger secondary sources rather than just googling and copying and pasting a snippet.
For research papers, sure they need access to a laptop to access online libraries, edit papers, even news articles. But in class focusing on the teacher content without a competing screen is best, and many of the best teachers say laptops away for a portion of the class.
Yes, of course.
And then — when it comes down to actually doing the work — how many of the best teachers say “don’t use your laptop”?
GTFO, troll.
In class? They should be having small group discussions, doing long hand math work, labs. They should spend class time staring at a screen.
If you actually had a kid in APS HS, you’d know that most classes are 90 minute blocks. There are certainly points during that time when students are doing work beyond discussions & labs. And guess where that happens — on laptops.
They are a tool that even the best teachers utilize at some point.
GTFO, troll.
I know they have block scheduling; the teachers that just say “do quiet work on your own” are why it’s wasted sometimes. They should have better use of class time than doing homework in class.
You really don't understand how teaching works.
Are you a teacher? My parents were teachers, so I know how the sausage is made.
But please educate me how laptops are used today in “modern teaching”.
LOL. Your parents were teachers when? And that somehow makes you an expert on the use of technology in schools in 2025?
You aren’t a teacher. You don’t have kids in APS.
Sit TF down, troll.
My parents were teachers, and I am in tech, what are your credentials?
You think you’re an expert because your parents were teachers some years ago? Hilarious. You are far from an expert.
And you clearly don’t have kids in APS HS.
Stop trolling.
Gotcha, you have connection to neither tech nor teaching. But you are a parent of APS HS student just like me, so you know better?
We all know you are full of sht because we understand what causation/correlation means.
And based on the ignorance in some of your posts you clearly don't have an APS HS student.
I can’t prove it’s causation, but it’s obvious correlated and likely caused by the introduction of screens. This is a widely published theory.
Does excessive screen use affect students' learning? Sure. But you can't attribute ALL changes in testing performance to screens though. There have been many significant changes over the past couple of decades that have likely contributed (moreso) towards lower test scores. Higher % of students who receive FRM. Higher % who are English learners. Higher % who learned to read/write with Lucy Calkins (thanks, Bloomberg), etc.
Should we minimize screens? Yes. Should we completely eliminate them? No.
Certainly not for researching history projects in HS. Still waiting on the sources info from your kid's history syllabus...since you say they attend an APS HS...
My oldest kid graduated and is heading to Ole Miss, so no longer have access to syllabus. Youngest is at WMS, so I’ll circle back in the fall.
So we can compromise on laptops, and agree phones don’t belong in schools.
Phones away while learning makes sense but locked up all day is overkill. Let teachers decide what works best for them.
Sure, but we tried phones away and it’s not working. Kids having access through the day end up violating in class.
And phone zombie lunch hour seems like a bad choice
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
DP here. Some of my colleagues have had trouble with classroom management, but that's with or without pouches. That's a different problem, and not one that pouches will fix. You'll see, but unfortunately only after we waste time, money, resources and jeopardize relationships with our students. Or maybe you won't see, but we will.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
No it was definitely a certain group of parents called APE who lobbied for bell to bell bans for all grades and pouches.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
So if HB doesn’t have a problem with phones why force pouches on it?
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
So if HB doesn’t have a problem with phones why force pouches on it?
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
No it was definitely a certain group of parents called APE who lobbied for bell to bell bans for all grades and pouches.
Is this public record, were they at school board meetings?
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
No it was definitely a certain group of parents called APE who lobbied for bell to bell bans for all grades and pouches.
I disagree. Did you read Duran's email? This plan is his plan. He's not being pushed into it.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
No it was definitely a certain group of parents called APE who lobbied for bell to bell bans for all grades and pouches.
I disagree. Did you read Duran's email? This plan is his plan. He's not being pushed into it.
Of course he got pushed into it. That's what APE does.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
No it was definitely a certain group of parents called APE who lobbied for bell to bell bans for all grades and pouches.
Is this public record, were they at school board meetings?
Yes it's public. They weren't satisfied with restrictions during classes like APS did at beginning of the year because they didn't want high school kids to be able to peek at their phones between classes - oh the horror. They kept pushing until they got bell to bell at all levels. So thank APE for your 18 year old being forced to lock their phone in a pouch while they try to apply to college.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
No it was definitely a certain group of parents called APE who lobbied for bell to bell bans for all grades and pouches.
Is this public record, were they at school board meetings?
Yes it's public. They weren't satisfied with restrictions during classes like APS did at beginning of the year because they didn't want high school kids to be able to peek at their phones between classes - oh the horror. They kept pushing until they got bell to bell at all levels. So thank APE for your 18 year old being forced to lock their phone in a pouch while they try to apply to college.
It’s not like the college is going to cold call them while they are in class.
My HS student leaves their phone in their glovebox rather than bother with pouch.
Anonymous wrote:I am not an absolutist. I agree that cellphones have no place during instructional time, but I'm less worried about lunch and transitions, particularly in high school. How can kids learn how to use tech responsibly if we take it away from them until they graduate?
There were very convincing arguments about flexibility too, about how kids used phones for in-class projects at teachers' discretion prior to the total ban.
Why does everything have to be black and white? The people who are cheering about the cellphone ban are now gunning for the iPads and laptops. Which again, I can be convinced really aren't developmentally appropriate in K-2, but older kids gotta learn about it anyway to remain part of an interconnected global society.
I remember someone saying in the old AEM that it was just election-year red meat. I agree.
+1
Outside agitators trying to stir things up.
Let the schools/teachers decide what works best for them.
Your teachers and your admin have banned them. They already decided and you lost. As is every major school district private school etc in the country.
I support the teacher’s ban, a$$wipe. Fortunately, it’s not super restrictive.
I don’t support outside agitators stirring up sht with our schools.
I'm good with no phone in class. Not at all okay with making an 18 year old lock their phone in a pouch, and paying some company for dumb pouches.
I’m ok making them available to teachers who want to use them. But I’m not forcing teachers if they don’t think they’re necessary for their class.
DP and I teach older kids. This is how I feel. Make them available but don’t force me to police pouches or lockers for older teens. I have good classroom management and have not had any issues with phones. This is giving me something else to do. It’s often asked on her how teachers feel like we keep getting piled on with one more thing. This is an example. I’m asked to micro manage these older teens or young adults and police cells phones when I should be left alone to teach.
I’m sorry, but your approach is going to be the clueless teacher upfront lecturing to the class, meanwhile, they’ll be many kids trying to focus on what you’re saying who is peripheral vision will be distracted by all the motion and ears assaulted by high-pitched noise from their neighbors TikTok binge
Just stop. PP doesn’t have an issue with kids using phones in the classroom.
The only clueless person here is you.
I would love to hear their classroom management technique that makes them immune to a nationwide problem? If they aren’t patrolling their kids cell phone use, in the mass of 30 kids there will be phones in use. It sounds like as long as they don’t hear it, they don’t care? But I would like them to clarify.
I’ll clarify. It’s my post you are talking about and it’s not as rampant in good classrooms as there scare tactic posts are making it out to be. I’ve been doing this for over 25 years now. Kids are not streaming videos in class, contrary to what you are reading. If you get any kid insistent on doing like you describe I’d deal with anyone who would be that disrespectful and disruptive to the class. This is as bad as being off task or loudly talking.
I can do a number of things, warnings, contact home, go through my schools discipline channels, parent meetings, etc.
Locking up everyone’s phones is not the answer. This is like saying all desks need to be in single rows, separated, forever and silent work because it will prevent kids from talking since groups are too distracting and teens can’t handle collaboration or group work.
If you teach in APS, so happy I pulled for private.
I always like to have a conversation. What part of my post don’t you like? I do teach in public school but sent my own children to private school, same as you. I also have a lot of frustrations with the public school system but that’s a different thread.
DP. For me it’s the way you say it’s fine because you have handled it, in your eyes. Have none of your colleagues had problems? I would imagine you would have heard the musing and opinions on the APS ban? What high school are you at; HBW will be different than WL for a number of reasons for example.
I’m not going to tell you which school I work at since I’m starting to give personal information out. Yes, some of my colleagues have had issues and love pouches and a complete ban. This is why I am a fan of having them available to those that want to use them but not making them mandatory. I do not think students should have cells out in classes. I have a problem when anyone tells me I have to accomplish that by doing a particular thing. They don’t know what’s best when they have never set foot in my classroom.
The decision on pouches was from the administrators and teachers, not a parent led movement.
The advance of the pouch is just one teacher deals with an unruly student, once it’s in the pouch it’s there for the day, so no phone whack-a-mole.
I’m still confused by why your method works, as there is nothing unique about it — do you confiscate while other teachers don’t?
From what you describe, I am thinking you are at HBW, which will likely have less issue with phones because of the application filter.
No it was definitely a certain group of parents called APE who lobbied for bell to bell bans for all grades and pouches.
Is this public record, were they at school board meetings?
Yes it's public. They weren't satisfied with restrictions during classes like APS did at beginning of the year because they didn't want high school kids to be able to peek at their phones between classes - oh the horror. They kept pushing until they got bell to bell at all levels. So thank APE for your 18 year old being forced to lock their phone in a pouch while they try to apply to college.
Please post links where they strong armed the school board so other parents can see how they can enact change they care about.
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