Girl with 1370 SAT gets in to 5 Ivies

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Anonymous wrote:So the schools are not obeying the law and still the racial discrimination.

Cut the funding already.

No! She's impressive! The activities and accolades (and maybe teacher LOR) are why she got in.

My Asian DD applied test optional (With similar test scores tbh) and got into MANY T20 schools (and is going to one of them)!

Agree! And I also have an ORM test op kid at an Ivy too....
Not sure why the hate here?
I think people don't understand what holistic admissions is.

There are a lot of us on here!!
The idiots here focused on test scores and nothing else don’t get it.

The sad and simple truth is that their children are not compelling. They are not interesting. They are not interested. And it comes across in everything they convey in the common app. They will never have the results our children have had. It has nothing to do with test scores.

I know many interesting white or Asian kids with higher stats who had nowhere near that kind of success. People who overcame disabilities, took care of sick family, did advanced college level academic work on their own for fun, etc. I know one kid who did all 3, in fact, plus the higher stats. I don’t think you understand the extent to which race sways decisions, so you are struggling to understand the extent to which people want this in the past.

But how did the kid convey it? If it wasn’t done well, none of these things matter.

In the case of the high stat kid who did all 3, you can assume the guidance counselor who read their essays felt they were very well written and their LORs were great.

For the record, I think adcoms have a very difficult job. But the argument articulated by some “they made a great decision on my ORM, so they must be making good decisions on everyone else too, and the rejected high stat kids must simply be boring” is offensively presumptuous.

Correct. That 1370 student will not be able to hack it in a serious major at an Ivy, they don’t belong there and aren’t intelligent.

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Anonymous wrote:MIT does not believe that 100 to 200 point differences on a middle school bubble coloring multiple choice SAT test is the key to Nobel Laureate success, intellectual brilliance and success in career and life. Only a buffoon is intoxicated by this noise and nonsense. It a middle-school level test!

Their admissions results beg to differ with 200 points being meaningless. A 1400 student who is white won’t get in.

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Dumb US adults seem enamored by a middle school multiple choice test while the rest of the globe laughs.

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Anonymous wrote:Dumb US adults seem enamored by a middle school multiple choice test while the rest of the globe laughs.

They were dumbed down in the 90s and 2000s because black students did poorly on them.

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Anonymous wrote:Dumb US adults seem enamored by a middle school multiple choice test while the rest of the globe laughs.

+1

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Why should you get in if you don’t deserve the honor. Please do argue about a useless primary school middle school test and scores expressed without 95 percent confidence intervals. If you worship this stupid assessment then take your extra 100 SAT points to a public state school and spend your college career being assessed with bubble multiple choice tests. Boring and mindless.

[Anonymous]

The US educational system seems to worship middle school bubbling multiple choice tests as measures of creativity, intelligence, brilliance, and accomplishment. The world is laughing at you.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should you get in if you don’t deserve the honor. Please do argue about a useless primary school middle school test and scores expressed without 95 percent confidence intervals. If you worship this stupid assessment then take your extra 100 SAT points to a public state school and spend your college career being assessed with bubble multiple choice tests. Boring and mindless.

Wow, the student in question can’t even perform well on a primary school level test. She must not be too sharp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The US educational system seems to worship middle school bubbling multiple choice tests as measures of creativity, intelligence, brilliance, and accomplishment. The world is laughing at you.

They clearly don’t worship the test if our best schools accept students who can’t complete Algebra I level questions successfully. She’s an imbecile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So the schools are not obeying the law and still the racial discrimination.

Cut the funding already.

No! She's impressive! The activities and accolades (and maybe teacher LOR) are why she got in.

My Asian DD applied test optional (With similar test scores tbh) and got into MANY T20 schools (and is going to one of them)!

Agree! And I also have an ORM test op kid at an Ivy too....
Not sure why the hate here?
I think people don't understand what holistic admissions is.

There are a lot of us on here!!
The idiots here focused on test scores and nothing else don’t get it.

The sad and simple truth is that their children are not compelling. They are not interesting. They are not interested. And it comes across in everything they convey in the common app. They will never have the results our children have had. It has nothing to do with test scores.

I know many interesting white or Asian kids with higher stats who had nowhere near that kind of success. People who overcame disabilities, took care of sick family, did advanced college level academic work on their own for fun, etc. I know one kid who did all 3, in fact, plus the higher stats. I don’t think you understand the extent to which race sways decisions, so you are struggling to understand the extent to which people want this in the past.

No.

You just don't want URMs, and blacks specifically, to get the same opportunities.
College admissions are subjective. Half the kids admitted are institutional priorities. Most are white. But no complaints on DCUM.

A post saying many very interesting white and Asian kids are rejected with higher stats from Ivies tells you the author doesn’t want Blacks to get “the same” opportunities? Really? Wow. “Same opportunities” means deciding on merit, not skin color. Otherwise, why stop at colleges? Why not use affirmative action for all hiring and elections? SCOTUS already ruled on this. The issue now is whether they need to weigh in again on things like essays being used to achieve the same effects as before. I actually hope they don’t, but people like you make it more likely they will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the schools are not obeying the law and still the racial discrimination.

Cut the funding already.

No! She's impressive! The activities and accolades (and maybe teacher LOR) are why she got in.

My Asian DD applied test optional (With similar test scores tbh) and got into MANY T20 schools (and is going to one of them)!

Agree! And I also have an ORM test op kid at an Ivy too....
Not sure why the hate here?
I think people don't understand what holistic admissions is.

There are a lot of us on here!!
The idiots here focused on test scores and nothing else don’t get it.

The sad and simple truth is that their children are not compelling. They are not interesting. They are not interested. And it comes across in everything they convey in the common app. They will never have the results our children have had. It has nothing to do with test scores.

I know many interesting white or Asian kids with higher stats who had nowhere near that kind of success. People who overcame disabilities, took care of sick family, did advanced college level academic work on their own for fun, etc. I know one kid who did all 3, in fact, plus the higher stats. I don’t think you understand the extent to which race sways decisions, so you are struggling to understand the extent to which people want this in the past.

No.

You just don't want URMs, and blacks specifically, to get the same opportunities.
College admissions are subjective. Half the kids admitted are institutional priorities. Most are white. But no complaints on DCUM.

A post saying many very interesting white and Asian kids are rejected with higher stats from Ivies tells you the author doesn’t want Blacks to get “the same” opportunities? Really? Wow. “Same opportunities” means deciding on merit, not skin color. Otherwise, why stop at colleges? Why not use affirmative action for all hiring and elections? SCOTUS already ruled on this. The issue now is whether they need to weigh in again on things like essays being used to achieve the same effects as before. I actually hope they don’t, but people like you make it more likely they will.

What will Yale do without students without horrible test scores and inflated HS GPAs?!?

I do find it funny how many posters say the SAT is middle school level. Yet the applicant in question could not even do well on an exam testing simple material.

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Anonymous wrote:Dumb US adults seem enamored by a middle school multiple choice test while the rest of the globe laughs.

You are referring to our college entrance exams? Have you applied overseas? They are a bigger factor abroad, not smaller.

[Anonymous]

Ambitious, academically smart and a diversity candidate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dumb US adults seem enamored by a middle school multiple choice test while the rest of the globe laughs.

You are referring to our college entrance exams? Have you applied overseas? They are a bigger factor abroad, not smaller.

Except their tests are harder.

[Anonymous]

“Wow, the student in question can’t even perform well on a primary school level test. She must not be too sharp.”

She likely didn’t waste her time, money, prepping with multiple testing thru high school with adhd pharmacological enhancement and test taking accommodation. Bravo. Great decision on her part. More important matters to focus on.