Contractor Cuts: Booz, Deloitte, Leidos, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m good with this. I’ve worked for the Feds in contracting for a long time and watched the rates paid in the contracts go higher and higher. So many useless reports written by vendors who get payed close to 200k to write reports. They are like little parasites sucking off the government teet. And then I see where they live in my area and always figured that that particular Booz Allen person must work in something else because how do they afford the 2 million home in Great Falls. To learn that 95% of Booz Allen is government shows that Feds get to live in Burke or Manassas but the contractors that we tell what to do live in great falls. Nope. Time to rein it in. Booz and its kind writes the sow, and the policies, that require the reports in the contracts that they then bid on. Then they write the reports or do the analysis to identify the problems that must be addressed via another consulting contract. It’s ridiculous and such obvious grift. Time to rein it in.

Who can spell “rein” correctly but not “paid” (payed?) or “teat” (teet?). Voice to text wouldn’t make those mistakes because those aren’t homophones.

Feds like that are the reason contractors have work.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m good with this. I’ve worked for the Feds in contracting for a long time and watched the rates paid in the contracts go higher and higher. So many useless reports written by vendors who get payed close to 200k to write reports. They are like little parasites sucking off the government teet. And then I see where they live in my area and always figured that that particular Booz Allen person must work in something else because how do they afford the 2 million home in Great Falls. To learn that 95% of Booz Allen is government shows that Feds get to live in Burke or Manassas but the contractors that we tell what to do live in great falls. Nope. Time to rein it in. Booz and its kind writes the sow, and the policies, that require the reports in the contracts that they then bid on. Then they write the reports or do the analysis to identify the problems that must be addressed via another consulting contract. It’s ridiculous and such obvious grift. Time to rein it in.

You are a moron. I am a contractor and cannot afford to live in Great Falls.

NP. I've been both a contractor and a fed. There's jealousy and misunderstanding on both sides. Feds think contractors are all overpaid, contractors think feds are lazy and entitled. Both are incorrect. Most feds are very hardworking and take public service seriously, while the benefits that contractors receive are often paltry compared to feds, and a lost contract can mean job loss or a pay cut.

At the end of the day, most everyone is just trying to do good at their respective jobs and go home.

You’re right. - contractor

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Anonymous wrote:I’m good with this. I’ve worked for the Feds in contracting for a long time and watched the rates paid in the contracts go higher and higher. So many useless reports written by vendors who get payed close to 200k to write reports. They are like little parasites sucking off the government teet. And then I see where they live in my area and always figured that that particular Booz Allen person must work in something else because how do they afford the 2 million home in Great Falls. To learn that 95% of Booz Allen is government shows that Feds get to live in Burke or Manassas but the contractors that we tell what to do live in great falls. Nope. Time to rein it in. Booz and its kind writes the sow, and the policies, that require the reports in the contracts that they then bid on. Then they write the reports or do the analysis to identify the problems that must be addressed via another consulting contract. It’s ridiculous and such obvious grift. Time to rein it in.

Most contractors make $100-225k so stop making stuff up.

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Anonymous wrote:More than 90% of the world population and nearly 100% of all the people who lived before us, would be ecstatic to live currently in the USA.

The world has never been a better, safer, and more livable place than now. And the USA is the luckiest place you can be. Ignore the politics.

-Moderate who voted for Kamala

It sounds like you have not seen much of the world.

What do I know, an immigrant born and raised in another country for half my life.

The fact that your country might be even worse than the US does not make the latter “the luckiest place”.

80% of the population of Asia, Africa, Middle East and South America would come to USA in a heartbeat if given the opportunity.

Actually there is a 94 year old guy in Omaha who is calls being born in USA winning the "Ovarian Lottery" and "The babies being born in America today are the luckiest crop in history."

But people living in million dollar homes, driving nice sedans, sipping lattes and listening to Spotify playlists, think they have it pretty bad.

Yes those people just got fired. Why do you hate Americans so much?

I think the old fashion American values and grace is disappearing. The greedy businesses and Free Trade politicians sold out and sent jobs overseas, devastating communities. Lack of opportunities and lower level of education is driving this hate and jealousy.

I don't like to see people lose their jobs, and I'm about it worried myself, but the poster has a point. The DC area will see a little of what Detroit, Pittsburgh, Youngstown and the Rust Belt experienced since Clinton and Bush, but nothing like the economic and social devastation those places saw. And the businesses and people there used to actually make things. Our children's future is dim because Democrats and Republicans can't stop spending money, and we've kicked the can down the road for decades. At some point (and I don't think we've seen the worst of our financial woes), we're going to run out of other people's money. Sad but true.

I'd like to see the reviews of grants, contracts and loans widened to DOJ and LEO, at least. I know of multiple police departments in relatively wealthy places that dipped into the Federal cookie jar to get new equipment and IT they didn't really need, or exaggerate crime statistics to get a grant. That money should have been requisitioned and provided locally - if local tax payers are on the hook, there tends to be a lot better resource allocation.

Those areas were affected by global economic trends--they boomed when the rest of the world had not yet industrialized or was recovering from WWII, and then suffered when US costs were no longer competitive in a global trade system post 1970. (Not saying its nice, just describing what happened.)

What's happening in DC right now is chaotic, vengeance-driven, and detrimental not just to the people who are losing their jobs but to the safety and security of the country. The government could be downsized--both employees and contracts--in a thoughtful and strategic way that would reduce government spending and contract the economy of DC, even in a relative short time. That is not what is happening in 2025, at all.

DC was kind of a he11hole in the 70s, booked a bit under Reagan, was a crimescape and depressed in the 90s, and then pivoted to tech and modernizing govt in the 2000s with a big boost from 9/11.

DC has definitely suffered many times. This one is the first that was purposely inflicted. Pittsburgh is doing quite well, I think Detroit is also on an upswing.

No it was drug infested hell hole during Reagan. Reagan brought in crack.

You're confusing the President with Marion Barry.

DP and lifelong DC area resident.
Reagan brought the crack and Barry used it.

DC was a mess, and not just because we had a terrible mayor. Trickle down economics don’t work, and lead to prostitutes walking down 14th street silicone cars stuck in rush hour traffic. It was not “booming” in the 80s, it was awful with gang wars and crim and shootings, because when people are poor and desperate they do desperate things. DC was better in the 90s, because even though the government shut down and contracted, it was done in a controlled and proper way. And everyone in the area was doing “better” in the 90s because the economy was in better shape once the Fed budget was balanced. People had confidence and hope that even if they didn’t agree with what happened, it was being done for a thoughtful and well-reasoned principle. This is not that. This is a chaos agent wreaking havoc and seeking revenge.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m good with this. I’ve worked for the Feds in contracting for a long time and watched the rates paid in the contracts go higher and higher. So many useless reports written by vendors who get payed close to 200k to write reports. They are like little parasites sucking off the government teet. And then I see where they live in my area and always figured that that particular Booz Allen person must work in something else because how do they afford the 2 million home in Great Falls. To learn that 95% of Booz Allen is government shows that Feds get to live in Burke or Manassas but the contractors that we tell what to do live in great falls. Nope. Time to rein it in. Booz and its kind writes the sow, and the policies, that require the reports in the contracts that they then bid on. Then they write the reports or do the analysis to identify the problems that must be addressed via another consulting contract. It’s ridiculous and such obvious grift. Time to rein it in.

I don't know what contracting world you're living in but in my world contracts are MUCH less generous today than they were in the 1990s.

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First casualty?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/accenture-flags-federal-contract-cancellations-delays-as-us-curbs-spending/ar-AA1Bk6PD

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Anonymous wrote:The grift is over, folks.

What an ignorant comment. The grift is not over it is just changing to different grifters (Trump and musk and anyone else who pays enough to them for access).

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Anonymous wrote:More than 90% of the world population and nearly 100% of all the people who lived before us, would be ecstatic to live currently in the USA.

The world has never been a better, safer, and more livable place than now. And the USA is the luckiest place you can be. Ignore the politics.

-Moderate who voted for Kamala

It sounds like you have not seen much of the world.

What do I know, an immigrant born and raised in another country for half my life.

The fact that your country might be even worse than the US does not make the latter “the luckiest place”.

80% of the population of Asia, Africa, Middle East and South America would come to USA in a heartbeat if given the opportunity.

Actually there is a 94 year old guy in Omaha who is calls being born in USA winning the "Ovarian Lottery" and "The babies being born in America today are the luckiest crop in history."

But people living in million dollar homes, driving nice sedans, sipping lattes and listening to Spotify playlists, think they have it pretty bad.

Yes those people just got fired. Why do you hate Americans so much?

I think the old fashion American values and grace is disappearing. The greedy businesses and Free Trade politicians sold out and sent jobs overseas, devastating communities. Lack of opportunities and lower level of education is driving this hate and jealousy.

I don't like to see people lose their jobs, and I'm about it worried myself, but the poster has a point. The DC area will see a little of what Detroit, Pittsburgh, Youngstown and the Rust Belt experienced since Clinton and Bush, but nothing like the economic and social devastation those places saw. And the businesses and people there used to actually make things. Our children's future is dim because Democrats and Republicans can't stop spending money, and we've kicked the can down the road for decades. At some point (and I don't think we've seen the worst of our financial woes), we're going to run out of other people's money. Sad but true.

I'd like to see the reviews of grants, contracts and loans widened to DOJ and LEO, at least. I know of multiple police departments in relatively wealthy places that dipped into the Federal cookie jar to get new equipment and IT they didn't really need, or exaggerate crime statistics to get a grant. That money should have been requisitioned and provided locally - if local tax payers are on the hook, there tends to be a lot better resource allocation.

Those areas were affected by global economic trends--they boomed when the rest of the world had not yet industrialized or was recovering from WWII, and then suffered when US costs were no longer competitive in a global trade system post 1970. (Not saying its nice, just describing what happened.)

What's happening in DC right now is chaotic, vengeance-driven, and detrimental not just to the people who are losing their jobs but to the safety and security of the country. The government could be downsized--both employees and contracts--in a thoughtful and strategic way that would reduce government spending and contract the economy of DC, even in a relative short time. That is not what is happening in 2025, at all.

DC was kind of a he11hole in the 70s, booked a bit under Reagan, was a crimescape and depressed in the 90s, and then pivoted to tech and modernizing govt in the 2000s with a big boost from 9/11.

DC has definitely suffered many times. This one is the first that was purposely inflicted. Pittsburgh is doing quite well, I think Detroit is also on an upswing.

Most American cities were he11holes in the 1970's due to white flight and disinvestment. Most American cities were hit with the AIDS and Crack epidemic in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

These things were not just a DC thing.

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Anonymous wrote:More than 90% of the world population and nearly 100% of all the people who lived before us, would be ecstatic to live currently in the USA.

The world has never been a better, safer, and more livable place than now. And the USA is the luckiest place you can be. Ignore the politics.

-Moderate who voted for Kamala

It sounds like you have not seen much of the world.

What do I know, an immigrant born and raised in another country for half my life.

The fact that your country might be even worse than the US does not make the latter “the luckiest place”.

80% of the population of Asia, Africa, Middle East and South America would come to USA in a heartbeat if given the opportunity.

Actually there is a 94 year old guy in Omaha who is calls being born in USA winning the "Ovarian Lottery" and "The babies being born in America today are the luckiest crop in history."

But people living in million dollar homes, driving nice sedans, sipping lattes and listening to Spotify playlists, think they have it pretty bad.

Yes those people just got fired. Why do you hate Americans so much?

I think the old fashion American values and grace is disappearing. The greedy businesses and Free Trade politicians sold out and sent jobs overseas, devastating communities. Lack of opportunities and lower level of education is driving this hate and jealousy.

I don't like to see people lose their jobs, and I'm about it worried myself, but the poster has a point. The DC area will see a little of what Detroit, Pittsburgh, Youngstown and the Rust Belt experienced since Clinton and Bush, but nothing like the economic and social devastation those places saw. And the businesses and people there used to actually make things. Our children's future is dim because Democrats and Republicans can't stop spending money, and we've kicked the can down the road for decades. At some point (and I don't think we've seen the worst of our financial woes), we're going to run out of other people's money. Sad but true.

I'd like to see the reviews of grants, contracts and loans widened to DOJ and LEO, at least. I know of multiple police departments in relatively wealthy places that dipped into the Federal cookie jar to get new equipment and IT they didn't really need, or exaggerate crime statistics to get a grant. That money should have been requisitioned and provided locally - if local tax payers are on the hook, there tends to be a lot better resource allocation.

Those areas were affected by global economic trends--they boomed when the rest of the world had not yet industrialized or was recovering from WWII, and then suffered when US costs were no longer competitive in a global trade system post 1970. (Not saying its nice, just describing what happened.)

What's happening in DC right now is chaotic, vengeance-driven, and detrimental not just to the people who are losing their jobs but to the safety and security of the country. The government could be downsized--both employees and contracts--in a thoughtful and strategic way that would reduce government spending and contract the economy of DC, even in a relative short time. That is not what is happening in 2025, at all.

DC was kind of a he11hole in the 70s, booked a bit under Reagan, was a crimescape and depressed in the 90s, and then pivoted to tech and modernizing govt in the 2000s with a big boost from 9/11.

DC has definitely suffered many times. This one is the first that was purposely inflicted. Pittsburgh is doing quite well, I think Detroit is also on an upswing.

Most American cities were he11holes in the 1970's due to white flight and disinvestment. Most American cities were hit with the AIDS and Crack epidemic in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

These things were not just a DC thing.

MLK riots hollowed out a lot of urban areas.

NYC was pretty awful, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee0HbusYpuk

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Anonymous wrote:More than 90% of the world population and nearly 100% of all the people who lived before us, would be ecstatic to live currently in the USA.

The world has never been a better, safer, and more livable place than now. And the USA is the luckiest place you can be. Ignore the politics.

-Moderate who voted for Kamala

It sounds like you have not seen much of the world.

What do I know, an immigrant born and raised in another country for half my life.

The fact that your country might be even worse than the US does not make the latter “the luckiest place”.

80% of the population of Asia, Africa, Middle East and South America would come to USA in a heartbeat if given the opportunity.

Actually there is a 94 year old guy in Omaha who is calls being born in USA winning the "Ovarian Lottery" and "The babies being born in America today are the luckiest crop in history."

But people living in million dollar homes, driving nice sedans, sipping lattes and listening to Spotify playlists, think they have it pretty bad.

Yes those people just got fired. Why do you hate Americans so much?

I think the old fashion American values and grace is disappearing. The greedy businesses and Free Trade politicians sold out and sent jobs overseas, devastating communities. Lack of opportunities and lower level of education is driving this hate and jealousy.

I don't like to see people lose their jobs, and I'm about it worried myself, but the poster has a point. The DC area will see a little of what Detroit, Pittsburgh, Youngstown and the Rust Belt experienced since Clinton and Bush, but nothing like the economic and social devastation those places saw. And the businesses and people there used to actually make things. Our children's future is dim because Democrats and Republicans can't stop spending money, and we've kicked the can down the road for decades. At some point (and I don't think we've seen the worst of our financial woes), we're going to run out of other people's money. Sad but true.

I'd like to see the reviews of grants, contracts and loans widened to DOJ and LEO, at least. I know of multiple police departments in relatively wealthy places that dipped into the Federal cookie jar to get new equipment and IT they didn't really need, or exaggerate crime statistics to get a grant. That money should have been requisitioned and provided locally - if local tax payers are on the hook, there tends to be a lot better resource allocation.

Those areas were affected by global economic trends--they boomed when the rest of the world had not yet industrialized or was recovering from WWII, and then suffered when US costs were no longer competitive in a global trade system post 1970. (Not saying its nice, just describing what happened.)

What's happening in DC right now is chaotic, vengeance-driven, and detrimental not just to the people who are losing their jobs but to the safety and security of the country. The government could be downsized--both employees and contracts--in a thoughtful and strategic way that would reduce government spending and contract the economy of DC, even in a relative short time. That is not what is happening in 2025, at all.

DC was kind of a he11hole in the 70s, booked a bit under Reagan, was a crimescape and depressed in the 90s, and then pivoted to tech and modernizing govt in the 2000s with a big boost from 9/11.

DC has definitely suffered many times. This one is the first that was purposely inflicted. Pittsburgh is doing quite well, I think Detroit is also on an upswing.

No it was drug infested hell hole during Reagan. Reagan brought in crack.

You're confusing the President with Marion Barry.

DP and lifelong DC area resident.
Reagan brought the crack and Barry used it.

DC was a mess, and not just because we had a terrible mayor. Trickle down economics don’t work, and lead to prostitutes walking down 14th street silicone cars stuck in rush hour traffic. It was not “booming” in the 80s, it was awful with gang wars and crim and shootings, because when people are poor and desperate they do desperate things. DC was better in the 90s, because even though the government shut down and contracted, it was done in a controlled and proper way. And everyone in the area was doing “better” in the 90s because the economy was in better shape once the Fed budget was balanced. People had confidence and hope that even if they didn’t agree with what happened, it was being done for a thoughtful and well-reasoned principle. This is not that. This is a chaos agent wreaking havoc and seeking revenge.

The problems were similar in many american cities, white flight, post MLK disinvestment and yes, the infusion of cocaine and crack cocaine into minority communities.