Elementary parents, pay attention to start times

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It is silly. For kids who need more sleep, parents need to be parents and have them go to bed. My HS kid has some activities that start at 3:30, and others that start at 7:30 and don't let out till 9:30 PM. A later start would be nice but a nightmare.


I read somewhere that they were kicking elementary to a really late start. What a nightmare for parents and kids.
Its actually welcomed in our neighborhood.


Same here! I find it really funny that some posters think they can speak for everyone. For us, later elementary time is great.


A 10:00am elementary school start is "welcomed" in your entire neighborhood? I don't believe that.


It doesn't really matter what you "believe." You're welcome to your opinion about start times and I am as well. As are my neighbors who, yes - love the idea of a later start. Sorry!

Do none of your neighbors have kids that play sports? My oldest is in 3rd grade and it's already been two years of kiss and ride pick ups everyday just to get to practice on time (currently a late run school ending at 4:05) anything later than that it would make it impossible.


You’re speaking from a privileged viewpoint. Lots of kids don’t do anything afterschool. Costs money to do sports; need to have a family member available to drive them to activities. If they do something it is to go to SACC and stay until 6PM. In these cases, getting out of school at 4:30 or 5 doesn’t have any impact on their life or their schedule.


A privileged viewpoint is actually that parents have the option to stay home with their children until a 10 AM school day.


There are services that offer childcare & transportation in the morning if you don’t get into SACC like the daycare vans or the karate vans. people hire babysitters or use a daycare that is on a bus route zoned for their school. There are options beside quitting your job to sit at home until 10 every day.
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Anonymous wrote:10am start is INSANE. My elementary kids are up at 6:30 every day. Soccer practice starts at 5pm. SACC is on a years-long waitlist for morning care already, I can’t imagine what it will look like if it shifts later along with RTO for feds. Parents at our school are definitely against option E and very concerned.


My elementary kids are big sleepers and would happily sleep until 8:30-9am.
+3. Sleeping in each day would be ideal for our family, too. Lots of sports run late.
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It is silly. For kids who need more sleep, parents need to be parents and have them go to bed. My HS kid has some activities that start at 3:30, and others that start at 7:30 and don't let out till 9:30 PM. A later start would be nice but a nightmare.


I read somewhere that they were kicking elementary to a really late start. What a nightmare for parents and kids.
Its actually welcomed in our neighborhood.


Same here! I find it really funny that some posters think they can speak for everyone. For us, later elementary time is great.


A 10:00am elementary school start is "welcomed" in your entire neighborhood? I don't believe that.


It doesn't really matter what you "believe." You're welcome to your opinion about start times and I am as well. As are my neighbors who, yes - love the idea of a later start. Sorry!

Do none of your neighbors have kids that play sports? My oldest is in 3rd grade and it's already been two years of kiss and ride pick ups everyday just to get to practice on time (currently a late run school ending at 4:05) anything later than that it would make it impossible.


You’re speaking from a privileged viewpoint. Lots of kids don’t do anything afterschool. Costs money to do sports; need to have a family member available to drive them to activities. If they do something it is to go to SACC and stay until 6PM. In these cases, getting out of school at 4:30 or 5 doesn’t have any impact on their life or their schedule.


A privileged viewpoint is actually that parents have the option to stay home with their children until a 10 AM school day.


There are services that offer childcare & transportation in the morning if you don’t get into SACC like the daycare vans or the karate vans. people hire babysitters or use a daycare that is on a bus route zoned for their school. There are options beside quitting your job to sit at home until 10 every day.


It's much harder to find before care than after care. You would know this if you had a child who needed before care, but you don't, so you are just making things up.
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Anonymous wrote:Is FCPS going to poll all families so that we can all vote for our choice?


Yeah, you missed that boat, mommy.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, I noticed you said "Get informed and make your preferences known." But you're aware that not everyone has the same preferences, right?


I am pretty sure if the county did a survey, the MAJORITY of ES parents wouldn’t want school to start at 9:50. Will there be outliers? Absolutely! But the same goes for middle school parents and what they want.

Based off the work session, I don’t think anything is happening until 26/27 school year. They may try a pilot next year, but that is it. There are a lot of missing data pieces and questions that were brought forth.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I

Before care isn’t as widely available as after care, as after care often translates into other after school activities. For example, it’s easy to staff a martial arts afterschool program because they’ll blend into evening classes.

The waitlist for before care SACC at late start elementary schools is long and the demand is high. Many parents already hate the 9:20 start time. Pushing it to 9:50 is adding salt to the wound.
False. SACC waitlists are much longer for aftercare. Hardly anyone is using the morning precare year after year.

You're such an idiot. This may be true at your high SES lots of SAHMommies school, but at schools with normal families who have two working parents, the waitlist for before care can be a year long - meaning, kindergarteners rarely get in unless they have a sibling already in the school. This is the case at my school and several others that I'm aware of.
wow! You just showed your true colors! What in the world do you consider a ‘normal’ family? You are unhinged and repeatedly barking the same nonsense with each of your responses. The world and Fairfax don’t revolve around you. The county will make a decision based on the community at large and what is in the best interest of the collective whole of the children population. This is not about you picking your operational hours at your elementary school because that suits you and your early rising child. This is not about you saving or spending more money on pre-care or after-care. This is for the betterment of the Fairfax community at large. Your selfish motives are transparent by the way you keep replying again and again to this thread.


It's such a joke that you think everything working parents do is about childcare and money. Nope, sorry, this is about what is best for my child. Being in school from 9:50-4:45 is not best for my child. It might be great for me b/c I wouldn't need aftercare, but I don't care about what's best for me, I care about what's best for my child. Just like you.


This! What is best for ALL kids is school during reasonable hours. 8-4 range.


Speaking for ALL kids just makes you look foolish. The only kids you speak for are your own.
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With a $4 billion budget, I'd like them to spend the extra 0.05% of it for option B.
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It is silly. For kids who need more sleep, parents need to be parents and have them go to bed. My HS kid has some activities that start at 3:30, and others that start at 7:30 and don't let out till 9:30 PM. A later start would be nice but a nightmare.


I read somewhere that they were kicking elementary to a really late start. What a nightmare for parents and kids.
Its actually welcomed in our neighborhood.


Same here! I find it really funny that some posters think they can speak for everyone. For us, later elementary time is great.


A 10:00am elementary school start is "welcomed" in your entire neighborhood? I don't believe that.


It doesn't really matter what you "believe." You're welcome to your opinion about start times and I am as well. As are my neighbors who, yes - love the idea of a later start. Sorry!

Do none of your neighbors have kids that play sports? My oldest is in 3rd grade and it's already been two years of kiss and ride pick ups everyday just to get to practice on time (currently a late run school ending at 4:05) anything later than that it would make it impossible.


You’re speaking from a privileged viewpoint. Lots of kids don’t do anything afterschool. Costs money to do sports; need to have a family member available to drive them to activities. If they do something it is to go to SACC and stay until 6PM. In these cases, getting out of school at 4:30 or 5 doesn’t have any impact on their life or their schedule.


A privileged viewpoint is actually that parents have the option to stay home with their children until a 10 AM school day.


Wrong. Privilege is being able to outsource care in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I

Before care isn’t as widely available as after care, as after care often translates into other after school activities. For example, it’s easy to staff a martial arts afterschool program because they’ll blend into evening classes.

The waitlist for before care SACC at late start elementary schools is long and the demand is high. Many parents already hate the 9:20 start time. Pushing it to 9:50 is adding salt to the wound.
False. SACC waitlists are much longer for aftercare. Hardly anyone is using the morning precare year after year.

You're such an idiot. This may be true at your high SES lots of SAHMommies school, but at schools with normal families who have two working parents, the waitlist for before care can be a year long - meaning, kindergarteners rarely get in unless they have a sibling already in the school. This is the case at my school and several others that I'm aware of.
wow! You just showed your true colors! What in the world do you consider a ‘normal’ family? You are unhinged and repeatedly barking the same nonsense with each of your responses. The world and Fairfax don’t revolve around you. The county will make a decision based on the community at large and what is in the best interest of the collective whole of the children population. This is not about you picking your operational hours at your elementary school because that suits you and your early rising child. This is not about you saving or spending more money on pre-care or after-care. This is for the betterment of the Fairfax community at large. Your selfish motives are transparent by the way you keep replying again and again to this thread.


It's such a joke that you think everything working parents do is about childcare and money. Nope, sorry, this is about what is best for my child. Being in school from 9:50-4:45 is not best for my child. It might be great for me b/c I wouldn't need aftercare, but I don't care about what's best for me, I care about what's best for my child. Just like you.


This! What is best for ALL kids is school during reasonable hours. 8-4 range.


Speaking for ALL kids just makes you look foolish. The only kids you speak for are your own.



Different poster. The PP said school within 8-4. You think kids should go earlier or later than that? This whole thread is about appropriate start times. Before 8 is ridiculous. After 4 is also ridiculous. Those ate reasonable hours for all grade levels.
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So, unless parents send kids out to play before school, their only outside time in the winter will be at recess.
Really?

As a first grade teacher, I cannot imagine having kids come in at 10. They surely are not seriously considering this. 9 a.m. should be the absolute latest.
Anonymous
I think the time to “vote” is over and maybe don’t want that anyway as our family would love the latest start they could do- it would work for us. Likely better than to no my have new vote and people just reach out to board reps and the most vocal can win.
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It is silly. For kids who need more sleep, parents need to be parents and have them go to bed. My HS kid has some activities that start at 3:30, and others that start at 7:30 and don't let out till 9:30 PM. A later start would be nice but a nightmare.


I read somewhere that they were kicking elementary to a really late start. What a nightmare for parents and kids.
Its actually welcomed in our neighborhood.


Same here! I find it really funny that some posters think they can speak for everyone. For us, later elementary time is great.


A 10:00am elementary school start is "welcomed" in your entire neighborhood? I don't believe that.


It doesn't really matter what you "believe." You're welcome to your opinion about start times and I am as well. As are my neighbors who, yes - love the idea of a later start. Sorry!

Do none of your neighbors have kids that play sports? My oldest is in 3rd grade and it's already been two years of kiss and ride pick ups everyday just to get to practice on time (currently a late run school ending at 4:05) anything later than that it would make it impossible.


You’re speaking from a privileged viewpoint. Lots of kids don’t do anything afterschool. Costs money to do sports; need to have a family member available to drive them to activities. If they do something it is to go to SACC and stay until 6PM. In these cases, getting out of school at 4:30 or 5 doesn’t have any impact on their life or their schedule.


A privileged viewpoint is actually that parents have the option to stay home with their children until a 10 AM school day.


There are services that offer childcare & transportation in the morning if you don’t get into SACC like the daycare vans or the karate vans. people hire babysitters or use a daycare that is on a bus route zoned for their school. There are options beside quitting your job to sit at home until 10 every day.


Likely written by a full time stay at home mom--or a "work from home mom" who takes advantage of her employer.
Anonymous
They want changes to be parallel to the boundary changes which is stupid. So nothing happening until at least 26/27 which sucks for my rising middle schooler
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It is silly. For kids who need more sleep, parents need to be parents and have them go to bed. My HS kid has some activities that start at 3:30, and others that start at 7:30 and don't let out till 9:30 PM. A later start would be nice but a nightmare.


I read somewhere that they were kicking elementary to a really late start. What a nightmare for parents and kids.
Its actually welcomed in our neighborhood.


Same here! I find it really funny that some posters think they can speak for everyone. For us, later elementary time is great.


A 10:00am elementary school start is "welcomed" in your entire neighborhood? I don't believe that.


It doesn't really matter what you "believe." You're welcome to your opinion about start times and I am as well. As are my neighbors who, yes - love the idea of a later start. Sorry!

Do none of your neighbors have kids that play sports? My oldest is in 3rd grade and it's already been two years of kiss and ride pick ups everyday just to get to practice on time (currently a late run school ending at 4:05) anything later than that it would make it impossible.


You’re speaking from a privileged viewpoint. Lots of kids don’t do anything afterschool. Costs money to do sports; need to have a family member available to drive them to activities. If they do something it is to go to SACC and stay until 6PM. In these cases, getting out of school at 4:30 or 5 doesn’t have any impact on their life or their schedule.


A privileged viewpoint is actually that parents have the option to stay home with their children until a 10 AM school day.


There are services that offer childcare & transportation in the morning if you don’t get into SACC like the daycare vans or the karate vans. people hire babysitters or use a daycare that is on a bus route zoned for their school. There are options beside quitting your job to sit at home until 10 every day.


Likely written by a full time stay at home mom--or a "work from home mom" who takes advantage of her employer.


You have a chip on your shoulder. Listing options besides SACC makes sense. Likewise, there are different options for aftercare now.
Anonymous
I guess if I get RIFed I'll start a home based before care? Before care definitely isn't cheap and lots of places have waitlists and writing off additional costs to parents is a bit callous.
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