Usaid terror

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny. In threads like these the maga who post usually [url]just come off as mean, evil people. Explains a lot.

All they do is post mean jabs with no substance. Ignore. They're like 5th grade bullies.

[b]

No. I'm not a Trumper. But I've been appalled by the screaming hatred and name calling from the left here. One can't even discuss an issue like this - intelligently - without being called a Maga lover, a Nazi, a Nazi lover, a Trumper, etc. (I saw all of those today here and worse). If anything, it's mostly childish name calling from the Left because this us a Lefty forum.

It is nearly impossible to have an intelligent discussion about the issue - assuming the issue is legitimate fact based concerns about some of the work USAID is doing or the way they are doing it - given the chaotic and dangerous way the Administration is handling this.

[Anonymous]

It's entirely possible that USAID should have been given more direction and less money. But the smart think to do would have been to roll it back over time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so illegal and unconstitutional

I'm sorry USAID-- I'm sure you are just the first in a wave of illegal actions but it hurts my heart to see you and your work treated this way.

Same here. I am so, so sorry that this is happening to you.

NP. Also sorry to see this happen . I worked for a USAID contractor decades ago. Everyone I worked with was dedicated and passionate about their work. No one should be treated this way. Elon Musk is so callous that he can’t begin to fathom what humanitarian work is or means.

USAID lost its way and the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater. Their careless spending, arrogance and bloated bureaucracy got them in this position and now they'll suffer the consequences.

Agree. A lot of good things happened under USAID. But a lot of wasteful spending also happened under USAID. The independent presses are having a field day reporting on the obscure spending like funding for a transgender opera and parties for LGBTQ kids in Serbia. and USAID funding more often than not ended up in pockets of local corrupt politicians who owned the companies that won the USAID contracts to build water pipes or whatever. And often did a terrible job. And, of course, USAID was working hand in hand with CIA for certain operations, funneling money for certain schemes that may have been dubious. As a long time expat in developing/adjacent developing countries I heard plenty of wild stories about USAID and clandestine operations - from seasoned NGO veterans. I don't doubt most people at USAID were committed to their missions but I can see that in recent years some of those missions were getting ridiculous. Funding identity politics in countries, including Ireland, makes no sense.

I feel horrible for USAID employees who were working to support the agency’s mission. However, it also makes me sick to see how much of tax dollars were wasted when we have a homeless crisis, crumbling infrastructure, and a host of other needs in our own country. I’m glad something is being done, but wish it were more measured. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is exactly what’s happening.

Dumb. Americans are so dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's entirely possible that USAID should have been given more direction and less money. But the smart think to do would have been to roll it back over time.

No, that's too old fashioned. The new motto is "Move fast and break things".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:📢 Dr. Allan Goodman – Former Executive Dean at Georgetown’s School of Foreign Service, played key roles in education diplomacy under multiple administrations

. Now he is “CEO/Trustee” at Institute of International Education (). 💰 $787,536 salary

That seems like a lot of money for a position like this when these organizations are using tax payer dollars to help the “less fortunate”.

Shouldn’t things like this be addressed and maybe some of the waste cut back?

This is just one name in hundreds of people like this who are being paid hefty “salaries” with our tax dollars.

IIE is a massive non-profit that receives less than $300 M/annually in grants and uses about half that amount for grants. Less than 1/4 of the grant $ it receives is used for salaries for the entire organization. You may disagree with the compensation for this position (which actually seems pretty reasonable to me) but it is quite a stretch to say our tax dollars are paying for it.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/131624046/202331949349301518/full

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so illegal and unconstitutional

I'm sorry USAID-- I'm sure you are just the first in a wave of illegal actions but it hurts my heart to see you and your work treated this way.

Same here. I am so, so sorry that this is happening to you.

NP. Also sorry to see this happen . I worked for a USAID contractor decades ago. Everyone I worked with was dedicated and passionate about their work. No one should be treated this way. Elon Musk is so callous that he can’t begin to fathom what humanitarian work is or means.

USAID lost its way and the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater. Their careless spending, arrogance and bloated bureaucracy got them in this position and now they'll suffer the consequences.

Agree. A lot of good things happened under USAID. But a lot of wasteful spending also happened under USAID. The independent presses are having a field day reporting on the obscure spending like funding for a transgender opera and parties for LGBTQ kids in Serbia. and USAID funding more often than not ended up in pockets of local corrupt politicians who owned the companies that won the USAID contracts to build water pipes or whatever. And often did a terrible job. And, of course, USAID was working hand in hand with CIA for certain operations, funneling money for certain schemes that may have been dubious. As a long time expat in developing/adjacent developing countries I heard plenty of wild stories about USAID and clandestine operations - from seasoned NGO veterans. I don't doubt most people at USAID were committed to their missions but I can see that in recent years some of those missions were getting ridiculous. Funding identity politics in countries, including Ireland, makes no sense.

I feel horrible for USAID employees who were working to support the agency’s mission. However, it also makes me sick to see how much of tax dollars were wasted when we have a homeless crisis, crumbling infrastructure, and a host of other needs in our own country. I’m glad something is being done, but wish it were more measured. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is exactly what’s happening.

Isn’t USAID funding like 1% of the total federal budget?

Not saying all that money was well spent but isn’t it Congress’s job to take a hard look at programs and figure out what to keep funding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This is intentionally executed to create chaos. Everyone - stay vigilant, better times will come but USAID the way we knew is done. Sad times - US is ending its global supremacy.

I just don't believe that. This will have to be reversed and any terminations pursuant to illegal, unconstitutional conduct are invalid.

I don't understand why there isn't already a lawsuit--you can't cut an agency created by statute via unilateral executive action. While the "admin leave" route creates a bit of a work around, it is clearly a sham if the entire staff is being recalled and operations ceased. This development would seem to put this ridiculous move in the same bucket as the general spending freeze (that has already been enjoined by two courts).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so illegal and unconstitutional

I'm sorry USAID-- I'm sure you are just the first in a wave of illegal actions but it hurts my heart to see you and your work treated this way.

Same here. I am so, so sorry that this is happening to you.

NP. Also sorry to see this happen . I worked for a USAID contractor decades ago. Everyone I worked with was dedicated and passionate about their work. No one should be treated this way. Elon Musk is so callous that he can’t begin to fathom what humanitarian work is or means.

USAID lost its way and the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater. Their careless spending, arrogance and bloated bureaucracy got them in this position and now they'll suffer the consequences.

Agree. A lot of good things happened under USAID. But a lot of wasteful spending also happened under USAID. The independent presses are having a field day reporting on the obscure spending like funding for a transgender opera and parties for LGBTQ kids in Serbia. and USAID funding more often than not ended up in pockets of local corrupt politicians who owned the companies that won the USAID contracts to build water pipes or whatever. And often did a terrible job. And, of course, USAID was working hand in hand with CIA for certain operations, funneling money for certain schemes that may have been dubious. As a long time expat in developing/adjacent developing countries I heard plenty of wild stories about USAID and clandestine operations - from seasoned NGO veterans. I don't doubt most people at USAID were committed to their missions but I can see that in recent years some of those missions were getting ridiculous. Funding identity politics in countries, including Ireland, makes no sense.

You're high as a kite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's funny. In threads like these the maga who post usually just come off as mean, evil people. Explains a lot.

Like the person above you that told PP to choke on fumes and die?

[Anonymous]

Waiting to go to the new beach resort opening in Middle East that is US owned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This is intentionally executed to create chaos. Everyone - stay vigilant, better times will come but USAID the way we knew is done. Sad times - US is ending its global supremacy.

I just don't believe that. This will have to be reversed and any terminations pursuant to illegal, unconstitutional conduct are invalid.

I don't understand why there isn't already a lawsuit--you can't cut an agency created by statute via unilateral executive action. While the "admin leave" route creates a bit of a work around, it is clearly a sham if the entire staff is being recalled and operations ceased. This development would seem to put this ridiculous move in the same bucket as the general spending freeze (that has already been enjoined by two courts).

There is no lawsuit because the law doesn't not work anymore. They dismantled international law and they have just done the same to domestic law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny. In threads like these the maga who post usually [url]just come off as mean, evil people. Explains a lot.

All they do is post mean jabs with no substance. Ignore. They're like 5th grade bullies.

[b]

No. I'm not a Trumper. But I've been appalled by the screaming hatred and name calling from the left here. One can't even discuss an issue like this - intelligently - without being called a Maga lover, a Nazi, a Nazi lover, a Trumper, etc. (I saw all of those today here and worse). If anything, it's mostly childish name calling from the Left because this us a Lefty forum.

It is nearly impossible to have an intelligent discussion about the issue - assuming the issue is legitimate fact based concerns about some of the work USAID is doing or the way they are doing it - given the chaotic and dangerous way the Administration is handling this.

+1 In the past you could agree or disagree about the importance of foreign aid, and still think that the Government should honor its commitments in a professional way. I am horrified at the reputational disaster that has come from USAID cancelling contracts overnight, and ordering what's left of its staff (and it's not clear who is left) to not pay out any existing obligations. I have a colleague whose wife's firm had rendered IT services for a USAID project. They have no idea when they will get paid for services they've already provided. The US reputation will be that of Trump--someone who stiffs the common people who work hard to provide services. If Republicans disagree with the relevance of foreign aid, let them reduce the budget in next year's budget allocation. Let them lay off people through a normal process of reduction in force--not this stupid firing people by Elon Musk--the South African who can't even get a security clearance who is using his unprecedented access to the US Treasury to enrich his own businesses.

I am sad for the thousands of people who have already been let go from USAID and its ancillary services. I am equally sad that the USA now has the reputation of a banana republic. It is one thing to say you don't want to help the populations of other countries. It's quite another to not honor commitments that have been made--losing the reputation as a serious country and collaborator. There will be a time when the USA needs to re-enter many of these countries, whether for business or security reasons, and the damage will have been done.

[Anonymous]

I’m not a fan of USAID spending but I strongly disagree with Trump breaking the law to stop it. Trump knows he’s in the wrong and is moving quickly to destroy the agency before the courts can act.

Any lawyers in the house can explain why there already isn’t a TRO or injunction on the Trump admin to stop this? What’s taking so long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so illegal and unconstitutional

I'm sorry USAID-- I'm sure you are just the first in a wave of illegal actions but it hurts my heart to see you and your work treated this way.

Same here. I am so, so sorry that this is happening to you.

NP. Also sorry to see this happen . I worked for a USAID contractor decades ago. Everyone I worked with was dedicated and passionate about their work. No one should be treated this way. Elon Musk is so callous that he can’t begin to fathom what humanitarian work is or means.

USAID lost its way and the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater. Their careless spending, arrogance and bloated bureaucracy got them in this position and now they'll suffer the consequences.

Agree. A lot of good things happened under USAID. But a lot of wasteful spending also happened under USAID. The independent presses are having a field day reporting on the obscure spending like funding for a transgender opera and parties for LGBTQ kids in Serbia. and USAID funding more often than not ended up in pockets of local corrupt politicians who owned the companies that won the USAID contracts to build water pipes or whatever. And often did a terrible job. And, of course, USAID was working hand in hand with CIA for certain operations, funneling money for certain schemes that may have been dubious. As a long time expat in developing/adjacent developing countries I heard plenty of wild stories about USAID and clandestine operations - from seasoned NGO veterans. I don't doubt most people at USAID were committed to their missions but I can see that in recent years some of those missions were getting ridiculous. Funding identity politics in countries, including Ireland, makes no sense.

I feel horrible for USAID employees who were working to support the agency’s mission. However, it also makes me sick to see how much of tax dollars were wasted when we have a homeless crisis, crumbling infrastructure, and a host of other needs in our own country. I’m glad something is being done, but wish it were more measured. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is exactly what’s happening.

Isn’t USAID funding like 1% of the total federal budget?

Not saying all that money was well spent but isn’t it Congress’s job to take a hard look at programs and figure out what to keep funding?

Yes, CONGRESS’s job. Not Musk’s job. Or Trump’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so illegal and unconstitutional

I'm sorry USAID-- I'm sure you are just the first in a wave of illegal actions but it hurts my heart to see you and your work treated this way.

Same here. I am so, so sorry that this is happening to you.

NP. Also sorry to see this happen . I worked for a USAID contractor decades ago. Everyone I worked with was dedicated and passionate about their work. No one should be treated this way. Elon Musk is so callous that he can’t begin to fathom what humanitarian work is or means.

USAID lost its way and the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater. Their careless spending, arrogance and bloated bureaucracy got them in this position and now they'll suffer the consequences.

Agree. A lot of good things happened under USAID. But a lot of wasteful spending also happened under USAID. The independent presses are having a field day reporting on the obscure spending like funding for a transgender opera and parties for LGBTQ kids in Serbia. and USAID funding more often than not ended up in pockets of local corrupt politicians who owned the companies that won the USAID contracts to build water pipes or whatever. And often did a terrible job. And, of course, USAID was working hand in hand with CIA for certain operations, funneling money for certain schemes that may have been dubious. As a long time expat in developing/adjacent developing countries I heard plenty of wild stories about USAID and clandestine operations - from seasoned NGO veterans. I don't doubt most people at USAID were committed to their missions but I can see that in recent years some of those missions were getting ridiculous. Funding identity politics in countries, including Ireland, makes no sense.

I feel horrible for USAID employees who were working to support the agency’s mission. However, it also makes me sick to see how much of tax dollars were wasted when we have a homeless crisis, crumbling infrastructure, and a host of other needs in our own country. I’m glad something is being done, but wish it were more measured. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is exactly what’s happening.

Isn’t USAID funding like 1% of the total federal budget?

Not saying all that money was well spent but isn’t it Congress’s job to take a hard look at programs and figure out what to keep funding?

You don't even realized you've been brainwashed to think all this is normal.

Yes, Congress. Tell me when they get involved