Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the state of our infrastructure is so bad that this would take out the WHOLE bridge. God bless the people who were driving on it at the time, there’s no way they will pull many survivors out of the river

I do not want to sound obnoxious but every single time I am traveling on a bridge over water I am always on alert and anticipate that I could end up in the water at any moment.

You have drowned
You wind the windows DOWN. You are not stronger then water pressure

Same, it's a massive fear of mine. I actually wind down my window so I can get out if my car ends up in the water.
It's even worse now that I'm always driving with my toddler in her car seat in the back seat..

So sorry for those people who were on the bridge, it happened so quick

I wind up the windows and have this tool ready if we fall in the water.
I image that if you have the windows down, the water would flood the car with such force that you couldn't fight it and it would submerge the car more quickly.

Car Safety Hammer Set of 2... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MK2GNKD?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to see the 'receipts'. These ships have redundancies to prevent this type of things - back up generators, etc. Crews are not the best - tend to panic and not well-trained - but the captain is.

If only we had a federal agency(ies) that would investigate this….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Key Bridge was the hazmat route. I’m a passenger in a car along the top of 695 and its truck city around here.

Hazmats will need to use the Towson side.

Yep. It will be grid lock city on 695.

Will any of that traffic add to the density on 95?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68667813

this video from bbc does NOT show a u-turn

The video I watched showed it hitting the bridge head on. It tried to go backwards to stop, but I don't see that it turned.

Here’s the gps data for the route. It shows it turned towards the piling. I understand losing propulsion and steering, but wouldn’t is just continue going forward not turn? There was no wind.
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200


https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200

likely the rudder was jammed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, we may not get our Amazon packages…heaven forbid.

This is so sad and scary. It’s amazing someone survived unscathed.

You're an idiot. It's not just Amazon.

Baltimore is the #1 port for import/export of sedans and light duty trucks. One of the largest ports for transferring coal and sugar. It's a huge port.

Jesus, look at the force of the ship. Despite moving slowly, the mass of the ship was just too much for the bridge to handle (F = M x V)

Thank you for educating me o wise one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still confused how the shipping container hit the pillars even if it did lose power…

There would be no control of the vessel, and the water has currents that push a ship about.

Not true. There are redundant systems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68667813

this video from bbc does NOT show a u-turn

The video I watched showed it hitting the bridge head on. It tried to go backwards to stop, but I don't see that it turned.

Here’s the gps data for the route. It shows it turned towards the piling. I understand losing propulsion and steering, but wouldn’t is just continue going forward not turn? There was no wind.
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200


https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200

Worth watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ

It's too early to have real answers, but he thinks that 1) it dropped anchor and 2) that if they lost rudder control the torque from the engine would cause it to twist rather continuing to go straight forward even if the rudder was dead center when it lost power.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Key Bridge was the hazmat route. I’m a passenger in a car along the top of 695 and its truck city around here.

Hazmats will need to use the Towson side.

Yep. It will be grid lock city on 695.

Will any of that traffic add to the density on 95?

Absolutely. All alternate routes into, out of, and around Baltimore will get additional traffic.

[Anonymous]

This was helpful to understand the timing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=420&v=N39w6aQFKSQ&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.welltrainedmind.com%2F&feature=emb_logo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Key Bridge was the hazmat route. I’m a passenger in a car along the top of 695 and its truck city around here.

Hazmats will need to use the Towson side.

Yep. It will be grid lock city on 695.

Will any of that traffic add to the density on 95?

Vehicle traffic yes. Trucks and oversized vehicles will have to take 695 around Towson, because they are too big for the tunnels.

[Anonymous]

It has been reported there were around 20 construction workers on the bridge doing pothole repairs. These apparently were the people who were warned re the potential boat collision and were able to stop traffic on the bridge on either end.

They are also reportedly the only people who ended up in the water after impact.

This is so awful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, we may not get our Amazon packages…heaven forbid.

This is so sad and scary. It’s amazing someone survived unscathed.

You're an idiot. It's not just Amazon.

Baltimore is the #1 port for import/export of sedans and light duty trucks. One of the largest ports for transferring coal and sugar. It's a huge port.

Jesus, look at the force of the ship. Despite moving slowly, the mass of the ship was just too much for the bridge to handle (F = M x V)

How was it able to stop? Is the pillar that strong? Or would it have regained control to stay in one spot?

In in the nighttime video it all looks so small. The daytime really lets you comprehend the sheer scale of things. But what terrible luck to hit the pillar head on.

It stopped because the steel truss of the bridge in embedded into the nose of the ship...

So some are complaining the bridge was too flimsy because it collapsed and now some are complaining that the bridge was too strong and stopped the ship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68667813

this video from bbc does NOT show a u-turn

The video I watched showed it hitting the bridge head on. It tried to go backwards to stop, but I don't see that it turned.

Here’s the gps data for the route. It shows it turned towards the piling. I understand losing propulsion and steering, but wouldn’t is just continue going forward not turn? There was no wind.
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200


https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200

Water currents in a river?

Yeah, probably the currents. I'm the Bay Bridge swimmer. I did the whole thing swimming at 45 degrees to go straight ahead. Others got swept out past the lower bridge and were rescued.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live on the ESMD on the Bay and according to my navy and coast guard friends out here: the boat was experiencing repeated power failures from the short time it was released from the tugs after it left the port. Without power the navigation system won’t work and you cannot steer it and hence the boat will drift. The crew then tried to force the throttle to get it back on course and avoid a collision which is why there is thick black smoke seen coming from the boat before it gets to the bridge. The boat did contact MTA/the bridge which has its headquarters at the north end of the bridge in Dundalk to indicate they believed it would collide with the bridge but there wasn’t enough time IRT to then close the bridge to traffic before it was struck.

The ship was FULL of thousands (yes, thousands) of containers. The weight is incredible. You cannot do sharp turns or sudden stops on this. It also is so heavy it would do this to almost any bridge if collided.

Every single container ship that sails on the Bay, anywhere from Virginia Beach to Baltimore, must have a local bay captain on board while it’s on the bay to navigate the ship. There was one on this ship as well.

Ships are being re-routed to the port of Philadelphia.

Thanks for posting this. Does anyone know why the ship wouldn’t just drop anchor in this case?

It wouldn't do much good. 95,000 tonnes in motion is not easy to stop

Might tear up the front of the ship but could have avoided the collision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68667813

this video from bbc does NOT show a u-turn

The video I watched showed it hitting the bridge head on. It tried to go backwards to stop, but I don't see that it turned.

Here’s the gps data for the route. It shows it turned towards the piling. I understand losing propulsion and steering, but wouldn’t is just continue going forward not turn? There was no wind.
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200


https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200

Water currents in a river?

Yeah, probably the currents. I'm the Bay Bridge swimmer. I did the whole thing swimming at 45 degrees to go straight ahead. Others got swept out past the lower bridge and were rescued.

The news this morning said there were strong currents at the time.