Key bridge in Baltimore collapses after cargo ship crashes into it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would swim away

Huh?

I did the Bay Bridge swim but started on the beach. Half way through I turned on my back and looked up at the bridge - boy, was it high. Hitting the water from that height would be like hitting concrete.

+1 My dad and I talked about this when we did the Bay Bridge walk. From the high parts it’s the fall that might kill you even before you hit the water which can definitely kill you.

I remember like 20 years ago a college student was driving across the Bay Bridge when her car was pushed off by a semi. She survived the fall, in her car, was able to get out of her car and swam all the way to shore (not sure where she was when she went over but that bridge is 5+ miles long). Reports said this was insanely rare and probably because she was a division 1 athlete that she was able to do all of this but it has happened.

Someone posted about that. It was from the ramp end, not the middle - about 23 feet.

I posted about someone who fell off the Bay Bridge (in a car) at 27 feet. I did not read that she was an athlete. I'm not aware of the person PP posted about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would swim away

Huh?

I did the Bay Bridge swim but started on the beach. Half way through I turned on my back and looked up at the bridge - boy, was it high. Hitting the water from that height would be like hitting concrete.

+1 My dad and I talked about this when we did the Bay Bridge walk. From the high parts it’s the fall that might kill you even before you hit the water which can definitely kill you.

I remember like 20 years ago a college student was driving across the Bay Bridge when her car was pushed off by a semi. She survived the fall, in her car, was able to get out of her car and swam all the way to shore (not sure where she was when she went over but that bridge is 5+ miles long). Reports said this was insanely rare and probably because she was a division 1 athlete that she was able to do all of this but it has happened.

Someone posted about that. It was from the ramp end, not the middle - about 23 feet.

I posted about someone who fell off the Bay Bridge (in a car) at 27 feet. I did not read that she was an athlete. I'm not aware of the person PP posted about.

To add, that incident was 10 years ago. I don't know about the one 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

The Key Bridge was the hazmat route. I’m a passenger in a car along the top of 695 and its truck city around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, we may not get our Amazon packages…heaven forbid.

This is so sad and scary. It’s amazing someone survived unscathed.

You're an idiot. It's not just Amazon.

Baltimore is the #1 port for import/export of sedans and light duty trucks. One of the largest ports for transferring coal and sugar. It's a huge port.

Jesus, look at the force of the ship. Despite moving slowly, the mass of the ship was just too much for the bridge to handle (F = M x V)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68667813

this video from bbc does NOT show a u-turn

The video I watched showed it hitting the bridge head on. It tried to go backwards to stop, but I don't see that it turned.

Here’s the gps data for the route. It shows it turned towards the piling. I understand losing propulsion and steering, but wouldn’t is just continue going forward not turn? There was no wind.
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200


https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68667813

this video from bbc does NOT show a u-turn

The video I watched showed it hitting the bridge head on. It tried to go backwards to stop, but I don't see that it turned.

Here’s the gps data for the route. It shows it turned towards the piling. I understand losing propulsion and steering, but wouldn’t is just continue going forward not turn? There was no wind.
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200


https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200

Click the tile on the left below the map and it shows the line of its route out of the hardcore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would swim away

Huh?

I did the Bay Bridge swim but started on the beach. Half way through I turned on my back and looked up at the bridge - boy, was it high. Hitting the water from that height would be like hitting concrete.

+1 My dad and I talked about this when we did the Bay Bridge walk. From the high parts it’s the fall that might kill you even before you hit the water which can definitely kill you.

I remember like 20 years ago a college student was driving across the Bay Bridge when her car was pushed off by a semi. She survived the fall, in her car, was able to get out of her car and swam all the way to shore (not sure where she was when she went over but that bridge is 5+ miles long). Reports said this was insanely rare and probably because she was a division 1 athlete that she was able to do all of this but it has happened.

Someone posted about that. It was from the ramp end, not the middle - about 23 feet.

I posted about someone who fell off the Bay Bridge (in a car) at 27 feet. I did not read that she was an athlete. I'm not aware of the person PP posted about.

To add, that incident was 10 years ago. I don't know about the one 20 years ago.

This is the same incident. College student, 27 feet, 2013.

In 2011 a car went over but it was an older man.

In 2008 a tractor trailer went over and was believed to be the first time a vehicle ever went over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the state of our infrastructure is so bad that this would take out the WHOLE bridge. God bless the people who were driving on it at the time, there’s no way they will pull many survivors out of the river

Unfortunately we didn't spend any infrastructure money to make bridges impenetrable to collision from ships.

It’s entirely possible I am misunderstanding how these things are constructed and work but at most I would expect a portion of the bridge to collapse if one support column was hit. The whole entire just immediately fell, it didn’t even like stand and wobble, or part of it collapse while the ends remained intact, it just collapsed! That seems like an insanely weak construction.

For any bridge with long spans, the loss of a pillar is taking the whole thing down. That's just how physics work. The sections left when the pillar is removed will never be balanced enough to remain standing and the whole thing will collapse

+1 Also now that it’s daylight you can better see the parts of the bridge that are still standing. I imagine/hope that there were drivers on those sections who were able to stop in time when it happened.

Can you even comprehend this? So sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68667813

this video from bbc does NOT show a u-turn

The video I watched showed it hitting the bridge head on. It tried to go backwards to stop, but I don't see that it turned.

Here’s the gps data for the route. It shows it turned towards the piling. I understand losing propulsion and steering, but wouldn’t is just continue going forward not turn? There was no wind.
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200


https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=563004200

Water currents in a river?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Key Bridge was the hazmat route. I’m a passenger in a car along the top of 695 and its truck city around here.

Hazmats will need to use the Towson side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, we may not get our Amazon packages…heaven forbid.

This is so sad and scary. It’s amazing someone survived unscathed.

You're an idiot. It's not just Amazon.

Baltimore is the #1 port for import/export of sedans and light duty trucks. One of the largest ports for transferring coal and sugar. It's a huge port.

Jesus, look at the force of the ship. Despite moving slowly, the mass of the ship was just too much for the bridge to handle (F = M x V)

How was it able to stop? Is the pillar that strong? Or would it have regained control to stay in one spot?

In in the nighttime video it all looks so small. The daytime really lets you comprehend the sheer scale of things. But what terrible luck to hit the pillar head on.

[Anonymous]

I want to see the 'receipts'. These ships have redundancies to prevent this type of things - back up generators, etc. Crews are not the best - tend to panic and not well-trained - but the captain is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Key Bridge was the hazmat route. I’m a passenger in a car along the top of 695 and its truck city around here.

Hazmats will need to use the Towson side.

Yep. It will be grid lock city on 695.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, we may not get our Amazon packages…heaven forbid.

This is so sad and scary. It’s amazing someone survived unscathed.

You're an idiot. It's not just Amazon.

Baltimore is the #1 port for import/export of sedans and light duty trucks. One of the largest ports for transferring coal and sugar. It's a huge port.

Jesus, look at the force of the ship. Despite moving slowly, the mass of the ship was just too much for the bridge to handle (F = M x V)

How was it able to stop? Is the pillar that strong? Or would it have regained control to stay in one spot?

In in the nighttime video it all looks so small. The daytime really lets you comprehend the sheer scale of things. But what terrible luck to hit the pillar head on.

It stopped because the steel truss of the bridge in embedded into the nose of the ship...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, we may not get our Amazon packages…heaven forbid.

This is so sad and scary. It’s amazing someone survived unscathed.

You're an idiot. It's not just Amazon.

Baltimore is the #1 port for import/export of sedans and light duty trucks. One of the largest ports for transferring coal and sugar. It's a huge port.

Jesus, look at the force of the ship. Despite moving slowly, the mass of the ship was just too much for the bridge to handle (F = M x V)

How was it able to stop? Is the pillar that strong? Or would it have regained control to stay in one spot?

In in the nighttime video it all looks so small. The daytime really lets you comprehend the sheer scale of things. But what terrible luck to hit the pillar head on.

Combined with the pillar it crashed into, the fallen bridge spans draped over the ship probably pinned it in place.