3.8 uw private school gpa/odds

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you may find the stats for Horace Mann in NYC interesting. There was one 4.0 last year, and that’s not unusual.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1728397429/horacemann/szq8dkzflvd840kzdvo3/HMSchoolProfile2024-25F.pdf

A 3.8 at a rigorous school puts you in a VERY good position to gain admission to the most selective colleges. Scroll down for a list of where these kids end up:

https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling

Didn't see any Harvard admits?

You have to scroll sideways on the one chart. There were 10.

And adding that the chart shows matriculations, not acceptances, so it's likely that some of those numbers are higher for that stat.

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Those stats work well at Northwestern

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you may find the stats for Horace Mann in NYC interesting. There was one 4.0 last year, and that’s not unusual.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1728397429/horacemann/szq8dkzflvd840kzdvo3/HMSchoolProfile2024-25F.pdf

A 3.8 at a rigorous school puts you in a VERY good position to gain admission to the most selective colleges. Scroll down for a list of where these kids end up:

https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling

trinity, collegiate, brearley, regis .. I dont think there's more than maybe a one or two 4.0s between all 4 and they get dozens, literally, into each H Y and P every year

[Anonymous]

If you apply ED

UChicago, Cornell, Dartmouth

If you apply RD
GT, JH kinds

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a look at Harvard Westlake's unhooked college acceptance data, 3.8 / 4.5 gets you in many top universities, including ivies.

Are you an HW parent? How does a 3.8 UW turn into a 4.5 WG? NO WAY! As someone who has spent 12 years as an HW parent and seen countless HW kids, I can tell you that a 3.8 UW won't cut it for top Ivies. Around 50 students have a 3.9 UW or higher, and so many students cluster around the 3.9-3.8 range. With a 3.8, the school will likely push hard for the University of Chicago, and perhaps Cornell (as an ED option). For Regular Decision, it's going to be tough. The likely range would be schools like Notre Dame, WashU, Johns Hopkins, or Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you may find the stats for Horace Mann in NYC interesting. There was one 4.0 last year, and that’s not unusual.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1728397429/horacemann/szq8dkzflvd840kzdvo3/HMSchoolProfile2024-25F.pdf

A 3.8 at a rigorous school puts you in a VERY good position to gain admission to the most selective colleges. Scroll down for a list of where these kids end up:

https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling

Looks like ten between 2022-2024 went to Harvard which is less than I would have thoughts. This school has as high a percent of hooked kids/mega donors as anywhere in the country.

Didn't see any Harvard admits?

You have to scroll sideways on the one chart. There were 10.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen Cornell, Dartmouth and Columbia in this GPA range admitted unhooked (all different kids) in the last 2 admissions seasons. I'm not sure you could replicate this (I have a kid in this bracket who is not even trying) but it has been done.

I’ve seen Cornell and Dartmouth for ivies. Also the other schools mentioned above for T25.
Also, lots of other schools like Boston College, Carnegie Mellon, Barnard, Wellesley, Tufts, Georgetown & Claremont McKenna.

There are lots of options.
Evaluate ED1 and ED2 choices strategically.

+1 A strategic ED1 can be helpful with these stats

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a look at Harvard Westlake's unhooked college acceptance data, 3.8 / 4.5 gets you in many top universities, including ivies.

Are you an HW parent? How does a 3.8 UW turn into a 4.5 WG? NO WAY! As someone who has spent 12 years as an HW parent and seen countless HW kids, I can tell you that a 3.8 UW won't cut it for top Ivies. Around 50 students have a 3.9 UW or higher, and so many students cluster around the 3.9-3.8 range. With a 3.8, the school will likely push hard for the University of Chicago, and perhaps Cornell (as an ED option). For Regular Decision, it's going to be tough. The likely range would be schools like Notre Dame, WashU, Johns Hopkins, or Georgetown.

HW does not weight GPA. 3.8 / 4.5 means 3.8 out of 4.5 scale.

There is a link provided by HW, listing unhooked applicant acceptance by GPA range.

You are obviously not familiar with HW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take a look at Harvard Westlake's unhooked college acceptance data, 3.8 / 4.5 gets you in many top universities, including ivies.

Are you an HW parent? How does a 3.8 UW turn into a 4.5 WG? NO WAY! As someone who has spent 12 years as an HW parent and seen countless HW kids, I can tell you that a 3.8 UW won't cut it for top Ivies. Around 50 students have a 3.9 UW or higher, and so many students cluster around the 3.9-3.8 range. With a 3.8, the school will likely push hard for the University of Chicago, and perhaps Cornell (as an ED option). For Regular Decision, it's going to be tough. The likely range would be schools like Notre Dame, WashU, Johns Hopkins, or Georgetown.

HW does not weight GPA. 3.8 / 4.5 means 3.8 out of 4.5 scale.


OP was talking about unweighted GPA. So I mentioned UWG. That said, I do know one student with a 3.8 weighted GPA who got into Columbia about seven years ago.
HW used to WG (4.5)then DID UW(4.0 scale) next then went to those scale(4.5) later. I think you don't know HW GPA history.










There is a link provided by HW, listing unhooked applicant acceptance by GPA range.

You are obviously not familiar with HW.

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Anonymous wrote:no one can answer this withoyt know test scores, rigor, rank in class, ECs, LOCs, hooked, etc

yes they can! They can simply answer the question! sure, it can't be extrapolated to every 3.8 kid but that is not what is being asked.

Ours had 3.87 unhooked with 35 ACT super score (34 single score) and highest level of rigor in course load was accepted to one T25.

Zero acceptances at T20 (one WL).
Two WL at other T25s.
Waitlists never moved.

Zero acceptances to T5 SLAC.
One WL around #25 SLAC (this one may have moved but DC didn't reply to inquiry).

Other than the one T25 acceptance, all other acceptances were outside T30 (for both national universities and for SLACS)

Being unhooked makes a big difference - similar story for unhooked classmates. (Didn't want Chicago and didn't apply, but that may have played out based on classmates).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take a look at Harvard Westlake's unhooked college acceptance data, 3.8 / 4.5 gets you in many top universities, including ivies.

Are you an HW parent? How does a 3.8 UW turn into a 4.5 WG? NO WAY! As someone who has spent 12 years as an HW parent and seen countless HW kids, I can tell you that a 3.8 UW won't cut it for top Ivies. Around 50 students have a 3.9 UW or higher, and so many students cluster around the 3.9-3.8 range. With a 3.8, the school will likely push hard for the University of Chicago, and perhaps Cornell (as an ED option). For Regular Decision, it's going to be tough. The likely range would be schools like Notre Dame, WashU, Johns Hopkins, or Georgetown.

HW does not weight GPA. 3.8 / 4.5 means 3.8 out of 4.5 scale.

There is a link provided by HW, listing unhooked applicant acceptance by GPA range.

You are obviously not familiar with HW.

Different HW parent here and HW very much has weighted GPAs and lord knows they do not use a 4.5 scale.

Agree with other HW parent, I'm not sure it would be mathematically possible to generate a 4.5w with a 3.8uw. My guess is 4.3 with more or less highest rigor. That would likely be a candidate for UChicago ED. Unhooked kids getting into Ivies at HW -- and there are a lot of hooked kids -- are almost all going to be 3.9 and 4.4+, and many closer to 3.95 and 4.5+. Naturally, they will have 1550+ SATs. Once the numerous hooked kids are picked up in the ED round, the competition for the remaining spots at the top ivies (HYP, Brown, Columbia in particular) is fierce.

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How many apps did your 3.8 private school kid submit?

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Anonymous wrote:How many apps did your 3.8 private school kid submit?

2 - one ED and one EA. Into ED so they are done. Not naming school to stay anonymous but it is one with a less than 10% admit rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many apps did your 3.8 private school kid submit?

15 but 3 were UCs - so 13

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Anonymous wrote:How many apps did your 3.8 private school kid submit?

20.