Petition: Later MCPS school start times

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

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And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.
I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

If they got off their phones an hour before going to bed they might do better

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

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Absolutely not.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

Not the PP, but how exactly does this punish other kids? All get to sleep later and no one would be cutting activities. You do realize other places start school later their kids are fine.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

So true! The OP just refuses to do their job as a parent and wants the state to raise their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:THIS IS FOR SECONDARY STUDENTS ONLY.


https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mcps-board-and-superintendent-please-wake-up-to#comments


I'm signing for my second kid. My first is in college now. He had a mental breakdown in 12th grade to which sleep deprivation contributed. Teenage brains tend to fall asleep later and wake up later. This is temporary, and it's part of their normal, healthy, development. His high school bus was at 6:30am. It was just terrible for his physical and mental health.

This is dumb. Kids will just stay up later.

There needs to be time after school for sports training, music practice, clubs, theater and part-time jobs.

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Weird how many people posting in this thread seem to have forgotten what it was like to be a teen. Circadian rhythm is real and it really does shift in the teenage years. This is not even debatable. Starting school so ridiculously early is for the convenience of the adults. It is not in the best interest of the kids.

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So many parents on here claiming their kids don’t mind the early time and while they may be individually true I highly doubt anything close to a majority of teens would report being okay with the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Yes, exactly. Just like I can’t convince my 4 year old to sleep past 6am, no matter what I do.

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents on here claiming their kids don’t mind the early time and while they may be individually true I highly doubt anything close to a majority of teens would report being okay with the time.

I was surprised when my HS senior, who definitely stays up too late during summer and sleeps until noon or 1 pm, said she prefers the early school time.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

How does this work with 162000 students? Your private HS has how many students? And, parents provide transportation. Sure.

DP. Are you an advocate for making changes for the health of your child (and everyone’s children for that matter) only if making such changes requires absolutely zero thought or effort?

Have you ever heard of the concept of simple, not easy?

Just because something might be somewhat difficult doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing. I assume this is what most of you teach your kids, but when it comes time for the adults in the room to persevere suddenly it’s impossible so let’s throw up our hands in defeat before we even try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:THIS IS FOR SECONDARY STUDENTS ONLY.


https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mcps-board-and-superintendent-please-wake-up-to#comments


I'm signing for my second kid. My first is in college now. He had a mental breakdown in 12th grade to which sleep deprivation contributed. Teenage brains tend to fall asleep later and wake up later. This is temporary, and it's part of their normal, healthy, development. His high school bus was at 6:30am. It was just terrible for his physical and mental health.

This is dumb. Kids will just stay up later.

There needs to be time after school for sports training, music practice, clubs, theater and part-time jobs.

Who are ya’ll that keep posting this. It’s possible to have a later start time and still time after school for activities. This is not some implausibility. We know this because others do it. Ya’ll sound like the folks who want imagine another school calendar because what about summer internships and jobs. I guess you think that everywhere else just has dumb non active kids.