WJ/BCC Fight - No racism please!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just stop this arguing over mindless speculation until facts are available, or go out and help collect facts?

You can’t stop idiots from posting lies and conjecture.

WJ parents are so invested in making up stories, it’s a run away train you can’t stop.

Why WJ and not BCC parents? You seem biased.

Can you link a post from BCC parents making up stories?

I haven't seen a factual link from either.

Yes but there are a ton of non-factual posts from WJ parents. Not one from BCC parents.

File that under: the lady doth protest too much.

I don't think so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all just stop this arguing over mindless speculation until facts are available, or go out and help collect facts?

You can’t stop idiots from posting lies and conjecture.

WJ parents are so invested in making up stories, it’s a run away train you can’t stop.

Why WJ and not BCC parents? You seem biased.

Can you link a post from BCC parents making up stories?

I haven't seen a factual link from either.

Yes but there are a ton of non-factual posts from WJ parents. Not one from BCC parents.

File that under: the lady doth protest too much.

Plenty of BCC parents on here. One who claims the kids are from other schools!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you all just stop this arguing over mindless speculation until facts are available, or go out and help collect facts?

You can’t stop idiots from posting lies and conjecture.

WJ parents are so invested in making up stories, it’s a run away train you can’t stop.

Why WJ and not BCC parents? You seem biased.

Can you link a post from BCC parents making up stories?

I haven't seen a factual link from either.

Yes but there are a ton of non-factual posts from WJ parents. Not one from BCC parents.

File that under: the lady doth protest too much.

Plenty of BCC parents on here. One who claims the kids are from other schools!

That was not a BCC parent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

The principal is right. It is truly despicable to record this type of thing and post it on social media. It is meant to humiliate and glorify violence as well as garner views. It has nothing to to with hiding anything. Some people have very twisted minds to think the principal means to hide anything when he states that kids shouldn't be recording this kind of thing and posting it on social media. Really twisted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

The principal is right. It is truly despicable to record this type of thing and post it on social media. It is meant to humiliate and glorify violence as well as garner views. It has nothing to to with hiding anything. Some people have very twisted minds to think the principal means to hide anything when he states that kids shouldn't be recording this kind of thing and posting it on social media. Really twisted.

But okay to record and turn over the documentation to parents, school authorities, and police, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

The principal is right. It is truly despicable to record this type of thing and post it on social media. It is meant to humiliate and glorify violence as well as garner views. It has nothing to to with hiding anything. Some people have very twisted minds to think the principal means to hide anything when he states that kids shouldn't be recording this kind of thing and posting it on social media. Really twisted.

Both things are valid. It's awful to record someone's trauma or humiliation for the entertainment of others, but documenting this stuff also brings serious and real problems and crimes to light. So it's a double-edged sword.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

Forget MCPS. It's all MCEA's fault!!

[Anonymous]

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10:47 again.

I want to point out that the perpetrators might not actually be from either school! It's possible that on a Friay night before a long weekend, some violent youths may have laid in wait at the metro to target individuals or small groups. They exploited the fact that there was a game at BCC and that the metro station is close by.

So, with that thought in mind, I think we need to do our utmost to identify most of the perpetrators before we blame WJ or BCC kids, the football, the coaches, the principals, etc.

What we could do, regardless of who is responsible, is:
1. Schedule the game for a Saturday earlier in the day. In the past it's proven effective as a deterrent to violence.
2. Provide more police presence in and around the school, particularly at transport hubs.
3. Press charges against the violent youths and have sentencing be a serious deterrent. MCPS cannot be relied on to provide adequate consequences. This is a police matter.

I would just like to note that the students fighting were indeed WJ and BCC kids as I am a student at BCC myself and know and recognize some of the victims. I was at the football game and stayed in bethesda afterward, hearing about the aftermath and arriving at the scene a couple minutes after it happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
10:47 again.

I want to point out that the perpetrators might not actually be from either school! It's possible that on a Friay night before a long weekend, some violent youths may have laid in wait at the metro to target individuals or small groups. They exploited the fact that there was a game at BCC and that the metro station is close by.

So, with that thought in mind, I think we need to do our utmost to identify most of the perpetrators before we blame WJ or BCC kids, the football, the coaches, the principals, etc.

What we could do, regardless of who is responsible, is:
1. Schedule the game for a Saturday earlier in the day. In the past it's proven effective as a deterrent to violence.
2. Provide more police presence in and around the school, particularly at transport hubs.
3. Press charges against the violent youths and have sentencing be a serious deterrent. MCPS cannot be relied on to provide adequate consequences. This is a police matter.

I would just like to note that the students fighting were indeed WJ and BCC kids as I am a student at BCC myself and know and recognize some of the victims. I was at the football game and stayed in bethesda afterward, hearing about the aftermath and arriving at the scene a couple minutes after it happened.

Really? I heard they were Ganglandia plants trying to give our kids a bad rap!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
10:47 again.

I want to point out that the perpetrators might not actually be from either school! It's possible that on a Friay night before a long weekend, some violent youths may have laid in wait at the metro to target individuals or small groups. They exploited the fact that there was a game at BCC and that the metro station is close by.

So, with that thought in mind, I think we need to do our utmost to identify most of the perpetrators before we blame WJ or BCC kids, the football, the coaches, the principals, etc.

What we could do, regardless of who is responsible, is:
1. Schedule the game for a Saturday earlier in the day. In the past it's proven effective as a deterrent to violence.
2. Provide more police presence in and around the school, particularly at transport hubs.
3. Press charges against the violent youths and have sentencing be a serious deterrent. MCPS cannot be relied on to provide adequate consequences. This is a police matter.

I would just like to note that the students fighting were indeed WJ and BCC kids as I am a student at BCC myself and know and recognize some of the victims. I was at the football game and stayed in bethesda afterward, hearing about the aftermath and arriving at the scene a couple minutes after it happened.

There was talk about the perpetrators being unaffiliated with either school and students being the victims but this has already been disproven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

The principal is right. It is truly despicable to record this type of thing and post it on social media. It is meant to humiliate and glorify violence as well as garner views. It has nothing to to with hiding anything. Some people have very twisted minds to think the principal means to hide anything when he states that kids shouldn't be recording this kind of thing and posting it on social media. Really twisted.

Both things are valid. It's awful to record someone's trauma or humiliation for the entertainment of others, but documenting this stuff also brings serious and real problems and crimes to light. So it's a double-edged sword.

I’m guessing that some kids were overwhelmed and knew they couldn’t stop it so started taping. This is what adults seem to do every time something dramatic happens in public. It’s not exactly unusual behavior.

Maybe let’s focus first on the violent kids who were stomping on other kids’ heads.

Seems like BCC never punishes those kids. Is there any update on identifying those kids? Charging them? Kicking them out of BCC?

Until then I can’t take the silly emails coming from the principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

The principal is right. It is truly despicable to record this type of thing and post it on social media. It is meant to humiliate and glorify violence as well as garner views. It has nothing to to with hiding anything. Some people have very twisted minds to think the principal means to hide anything when he states that kids shouldn't be recording this kind of thing and posting it on social media. Really twisted.

Both things are valid. It's awful to record someone's trauma or humiliation for the entertainment of others, but documenting this stuff also brings serious and real problems and crimes to light. So it's a double-edged sword.

I’m guessing that some kids were overwhelmed and knew they couldn’t stop it so started taping. This is what adults seem to do every time something dramatic happens in public. It’s not exactly unusual behavior.

Maybe let’s focus first on the violent kids who were stomping on other kids’ heads.

Seems like BCC never punishes those kids. Is there any update on identifying those kids? Charging them? Kicking them out of BCC?

Until then I can’t take the silly emails coming from the principal.

All this and when will the WJ kids be brought to the same justice.

Drunk, disorderly, fighting… embarrassing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
10:47 again.

I want to point out that the perpetrators might not actually be from either school! It's possible that on a Friay night before a long weekend, some violent youths may have laid in wait at the metro to target individuals or small groups. They exploited the fact that there was a game at BCC and that the metro station is close by.

So, with that thought in mind, I think we need to do our utmost to identify most of the perpetrators before we blame WJ or BCC kids, the football, the coaches, the principals, etc.

What we could do, regardless of who is responsible, is:
1. Schedule the game for a Saturday earlier in the day. In the past it's proven effective as a deterrent to violence.
2. Provide more police presence in and around the school, particularly at transport hubs.
3. Press charges against the violent youths and have sentencing be a serious deterrent. MCPS cannot be relied on to provide adequate consequences. This is a police matter.

I would just like to note that the students fighting were indeed WJ and BCC kids as I am a student at BCC myself and know and recognize some of the victims. I was at the football game and stayed in bethesda afterward, hearing about the aftermath and arriving at the scene a couple minutes after it happened.

Interesting you agree it was a fight and not an assault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

The principal is right. It is truly despicable to record this type of thing and post it on social media. It is meant to humiliate and glorify violence as well as garner views. It has nothing to to with hiding anything. Some people have very twisted minds to think the principal means to hide anything when he states that kids shouldn't be recording this kind of thing and posting it on social media. Really twisted.

Both things are valid. It's awful to record someone's trauma or humiliation for the entertainment of others, but documenting this stuff also brings serious and real problems and crimes to light. So it's a double-edged sword.

I’m guessing that some kids were overwhelmed and knew they couldn’t stop it so started taping. This is what adults seem to do every time something dramatic happens in public. It’s not exactly unusual behavior.

Maybe let’s focus first on the violent kids who were stomping on other kids’ heads.

Seems like BCC never punishes those kids. Is there any update on identifying those kids? Charging them? Kicking them out of BCC?

Until then I can’t take the silly emails coming from the principal.

All this and when will the WJ kids be brought to the same justice.

Drunk, disorderly, fighting… embarrassing

It’s clear to both principals that the WJ kids were attacked. Go back and read their letters. Read the news reports about the racial slurs being changed from the BCC stands at WJ players and fans. I don’t think your both sides theory is going to play out.