GDS just dropped AP testing

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Anonymous wrote:AP classes have become a joke. AP Pre-Calculus? What's next? AP Pre-Algebra? It's a way of labeling classes as advanced regardless of whether they are. Private schools around the country are dropping APS.

Such as?

You want to know which schools have dropped them?

Andover hasn’t really offered humanities and social sciences AP courses for a few years.

Exeter is the same way, as is Horace Mann. Riverdale Country Day hasn’t offered AP courses since 2008.

Fieldston dropped them in 2002.

I’m sure there are more, but those are some notable examples among elite private schools.

All that said, probably 95%+ of all private schools still offer APs. I get that a very small %age of the most elite private schools do not.

The point is that more and more of the best ones don’t. They clearly don’t respect the AP curriculum.

There's a huge difference between not offering AP courses, and not offering AP testing. Which elite schools do not offer AP testing on site for their students?

Most that don’t offer the courses also don’t offer testing on site.

Apparently all the DC elite HSs still offer AP testing (except GDS), even if they’re wishy washy about offering AP courses.

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Anonymous wrote:AP classes have become a joke. AP Pre-Calculus? What's next? AP Pre-Algebra? It's a way of labeling classes as advanced regardless of whether they are. Private schools around the country are dropping APS.

Such as?

You want to know which schools have dropped them?

Andover hasn’t really offered humanities and social sciences AP courses for a few years.

Exeter is the same way, as is Horace Mann. Riverdale Country Day hasn’t offered AP courses since 2008.

Fieldston dropped them in 2002.

I’m sure there are more, but those are some notable examples among elite private schools.

All that said, probably 95%+ of all private schools still offer APs. I get that a very small %age of the most elite private schools do not.

The point is that more and more of the best ones don’t. They clearly don’t respect the AP curriculum.

There's a huge difference between not offering AP courses, and not offering AP testing. Which elite schools do not offer AP testing on site for their students?

Most that don’t offer the courses also don’t offer testing on site.

Then how do they support their students who want to take the exams, especially the less wealthy ones?

Andover offers AP testing
https://www.andover.edu/files/2022APFallReg.pdf

Exeter offers AP testing
https://www.exeter.edu/sites/default/files/documents/Dec_13_2022-23_PEA_Profile.pdf

etc etc

GDS is unique in NOT offering testing. So freakin' stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chapin has a whole page talking about why they don’t offer AP courses. They also include a list of some other private schools that have done the same:

New York City: Brearley; Berkeley Carroll; Dalton; Fieldston; Nightingale-Bamford; Packer Collegiate; Riverdale; Spence; St. Ann’s

Boarding Schools: Andover; Cate School; Choate; Exeter; Lawrenceville; St. George’s; St. Paul’s East Coast: Agnes Irwin; Beaver Country Day; Concord Academy; Lincoln School, Providence; Park School, Baltimore

West Coast: Crossroads; Lick Wilmerding; Marin Academy

Many of the schools that dropped the AP courses have kept the testing.

Chapin dropped AP courses and testing

[Anonymous]

Can you call your local public high school to ask to test at that site? Has anyone tried JR or BCC?

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Anonymous wrote:Can you call your local public high school to ask to test at that site? Has anyone tried JR or BCC?

I agree with a PP…you need to let JR and BCC get through the first two weeks and then reach out. They don’t have bandwidth to deal with GDS AP testing problems at the start of the year.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you call your local public high school to ask to test at that site? Has anyone tried JR or BCC?

I agree with a PP…you need to let JR and BCC get through the first two weeks and then reach out. They don’t have bandwidth to deal with GDS AP testing problems at the start of the year.

And they are very unlikely to have space.

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Anonymous wrote:AP classes have become a joke. AP Pre-Calculus? What's next? AP Pre-Algebra? It's a way of labeling classes as advanced regardless of whether they are. Private schools around the country are dropping APS.

Such as?

You want to know which schools have dropped them?

Andover hasn’t really offered humanities and social sciences AP courses for a few years.

Exeter is the same way, as is Horace Mann. Riverdale Country Day hasn’t offered AP courses since 2008.

Fieldston dropped them in 2002.

I’m sure there are more, but those are some notable examples among elite private schools.

All that said, probably 95%+ of all private schools still offer APs. I get that a very small %age of the most elite private schools do not.

The point is that more and more of the best ones don’t. They clearly don’t respect the AP curriculum.

Yet, if you look at the course catalog, or even the school profiles of schools like Andover, Exeter, AP courses are still offered……

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Anonymous wrote:AP classes have become a joke. AP Pre-Calculus? What's next? AP Pre-Algebra? It's a way of labeling classes as advanced regardless of whether they are. Private schools around the country are dropping APS.

Such as?

You want to know which schools have dropped them?

Andover hasn’t really offered humanities and social sciences AP courses for a few years.

Exeter is the same way, as is Horace Mann. Riverdale Country Day hasn’t offered AP courses since 2008.

Fieldston dropped them in 2002.

I’m sure there are more, but those are some notable examples among elite private schools.

All that said, probably 95%+ of all private schools still offer APs. I get that a very small %age of the most elite private schools do not.

The point is that more and more of the best ones don’t. They clearly don’t respect the AP curriculum.

Yet, if you look at the course catalog, or even the school profiles of schools like Andover, Exeter, AP courses are still offered……

Some of them. Not all. They pick and choose which subjects they want to offer AP courses in.

[Anonymous]

I looked through Andover’s course catalog, and the only AP course I found was AB and BC calc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I looked through Andover’s course catalog, and the only AP course I found was AB and BC calc.

yes but Andover allows students to sit for all AP tests. This is the main issue this thread is about. The ship sailed long ago on GDS dropping AP courses. The current issue is not even offering testing on campus leaving students scrambling

[Anonymous]

Parents should absolutely revolt against this decision. I mean how crazy do things have to get…?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents should absolutely revolt against this decision. I mean how crazy do things have to get…?

Universities are increasingly not allowing AP exams to be used for even general credit. Harvard stopped it completely. Yale allows it on a very limited basis.

It’s definitely still a benefit at large state schools like Michigan.

I think these schools should still let kids sit for AP exams. Not doing so seems short-sighted. A kid who wants to go to Michigan should be able to take the AP Bio exam and test out of Bio195, for example.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I should’ve said “Top private universities” up top.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should absolutely revolt against this decision. I mean how crazy do things have to get…?

Universities are increasingly not allowing AP exams to be used for even general credit. Harvard stopped it completely. Yale allows it on a very limited basis.

It’s definitely still a benefit at large state schools like Michigan.

I think these schools should still let kids sit for AP exams. Not doing so seems short-sighted. A kid who wants to go to Michigan should be able to take the AP Bio exam and test out of Bio195, for example.

Harvard accepts AP scores (mainly 5, some 4) for placement which is important to many folks. Yale accepts many AP scores for both placement and credit...again, you need mainly 5s and sometime 4s. Yale actually seems no different than other top schools in how they treat APs...just their webpage is in a somewhat strange format.

Honestly, most people using APs for an Ivy school are not trying to graduate a semester early...it just allows someone to maybe take only 4 classes instead of 5 in some semesters, or they can take more classes that they want to take vs. having to fulfill intro requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should absolutely revolt against this decision. I mean how crazy do things have to get…?

Universities are increasingly not allowing AP exams to be used for even general credit. Harvard stopped it completely. Yale allows it on a very limited basis.

It’s definitely still a benefit at large state schools like Michigan.

I think these schools should still let kids sit for AP exams. Not doing so seems short-sighted. A kid who wants to go to Michigan should be able to take the AP Bio exam and test out of Bio195, for example.

Harvard accepts AP scores (mainly 5, some 4) for placement which is important to many folks. Yale accepts many AP scores for both placement and credit...again, you need mainly 5s and sometime 4s. Yale actually seems no different than other top schools in how they treat APs...just their webpage is in a somewhat strange format.

Honestly, most people using APs for an Ivy school are not trying to graduate a semester early...it just allows someone to maybe take only 4 classes instead of 5 in some semesters, or they can take more classes that they want to take vs. having to fulfill intro requirements.

From Harvard’s website:

Advanced Placement examinations, the International Baccalaureate diploma, and international credentials will no longer be recognized for Harvard College credit toward the degree beginning with the students who enter the College in Fall 2020. Visit the Office of Undergraduate Education website for more information.

https://registrar.fas.harvard.edu/test-scores-advanced-standing