City people... when is enough enough re: crime

[Anonymous]

It is just too much. We too live in Shaw, with 2 kids who were born here. Can't afford to leave-- or maybe we can. The Council is testing us, but the Fed is making it impossible. Every commute feels like a game of Frogger. on top of the constant backbeat of violent crime, the earsplitting noise, the speeding cars with souped up engines ready to kill anyone. It's... unbearable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One valuable point that the trolls have unintentionally surfaced is that very few of the trends that have contributed to crime decreasing and increasing over the years in D.C. — or to the influx of young professionals over the years and the recent slowdown/outmigration of them — have been limited to the D.C. area. These are all national trends reflecting national shifts in policy and demographics.

I don't say that to discount at all the increase in crime or the way it's affecting people here now. But a lot of conversations here seem to assume that what's happening in D.C. is happening in a vacuum and that we could, if only we made better choices as a city, fix them. It's sometimes helpful to remember that isn't the case — that we can, and should, make the best policy decisions here that we can, but that we're still going to be affected by bigger trends and policies outside our local control even if we do.

If these are national trends, why is homicide increasing in DC but decreasing (in a big way) in 63 percent of major U.S. cities?

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1658826181142011904

Hear me out: We should look into what those cities are doing right.

Interesting tweet. How does Boston do it? It's never on any of these lists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One valuable point that the trolls have unintentionally surfaced is that very few of the trends that have contributed to crime decreasing and increasing over the years in D.C. — or to the influx of young professionals over the years and the recent slowdown/outmigration of them — have been limited to the D.C. area. These are all national trends reflecting national shifts in policy and demographics.

I don't say that to discount at all the increase in crime or the way it's affecting people here now. But a lot of conversations here seem to assume that what's happening in D.C. is happening in a vacuum and that we could, if only we made better choices as a city, fix them. It's sometimes helpful to remember that isn't the case — that we can, and should, make the best policy decisions here that we can, but that we're still going to be affected by bigger trends and policies outside our local control even if we do.

If these are national trends, why is homicide increasing in DC but decreasing (in a big way) in 63 percent of major U.S. cities?

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1658826181142011904

Hear me out: We should look into what those cities are doing right.

Yes, we should see what those cities are doing right, and maybe we can emulate it. My only point is that when crime was dropping in D.C. a decade ago, it probably wasn't because of anything specific we did here. Crime was dropping nationwide. We could do whatever those cities are doing and still get the same result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is just too much. We too live in Shaw, with 2 kids who were born here. Can't afford to leave-- or maybe we can. The Council is testing us, but the Fed is making it impossible. Every commute feels like a game of Frogger. on top of the constant backbeat of violent crime, the earsplitting noise, the speeding cars with souped up engines ready to kill anyone. It's... unbearable.

Same!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One valuable point that the trolls have unintentionally surfaced is that very few of the trends that have contributed to crime decreasing and increasing over the years in D.C. — or to the influx of young professionals over the years and the recent slowdown/outmigration of them — have been limited to the D.C. area. These are all national trends reflecting national shifts in policy and demographics.

I don't say that to discount at all the increase in crime or the way it's affecting people here now. But a lot of conversations here seem to assume that what's happening in D.C. is happening in a vacuum and that we could, if only we made better choices as a city, fix them. It's sometimes helpful to remember that isn't the case — that we can, and should, make the best policy decisions here that we can, but that we're still going to be affected by bigger trends and policies outside our local control even if we do.

If these are national trends, why is homicide increasing in DC but decreasing (in a big way) in 63 percent of major U.S. cities?

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1658826181142011904

Hear me out: We should look into what those cities are doing right.

Interesting tweet. How does Boston do it? It's never on any of these lists.

It is very obvious why Boston is a safe city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One valuable point that the trolls have unintentionally surfaced is that very few of the trends that have contributed to crime decreasing and increasing over the years in D.C. — or to the influx of young professionals over the years and the recent slowdown/outmigration of them — have been limited to the D.C. area. These are all national trends reflecting national shifts in policy and demographics.

I don't say that to discount at all the increase in crime or the way it's affecting people here now. But a lot of conversations here seem to assume that what's happening in D.C. is happening in a vacuum and that we could, if only we made better choices as a city, fix them. It's sometimes helpful to remember that isn't the case — that we can, and should, make the best policy decisions here that we can, but that we're still going to be affected by bigger trends and policies outside our local control even if we do.

If these are national trends, why is homicide increasing in DC but decreasing (in a big way) in 63 percent of major U.S. cities?

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1658826181142011904

Hear me out: We should look into what those cities are doing right.

Interesting tweet. How does Boston do it? It's never on any of these lists.

It is very obvious why Boston is a safe city.

Enlighten us.

[Anonymous]

I’m from Boston and also know the correct answer….

[Anonymous]

Yes, it’s not politically correct but it is true.

Boston is heavily White downtown and minorities are segregated to other parts of the city like Dorchester, Roslindale, etc. those areas have high crime, but downtown like Back Bay, Seaport, Financial are pretty safe.

Sometimes having “diversity” end up having more crime. Not PC but it is indeed true.

[Anonymous]

A major reason we left Columbia Heights for Silver Spring in fall 2020. In addition to wanting more space and a yard for the same amount of $…we were just done. It was sad because we had loved living there, but I don’t miss it and am grateful to live here every day.

[Anonymous]

I lived in DC for most of my life. Kids were born here. I lived in Adams Morgan in the 80s and paid $400 a month in rent for a 2 bedroom apartment. We bought in Shaw in the 90s, so I'm used to crime in DC.

It changed in DC when the city started really gentrifying and the crimes became much more violent. After a shooting at the school near us (and two kids died) we moved to Maryland. I don't love it - and I miss the city, but I was ready to not hear gun shots nightly.

[Anonymous]

My kid plays travel sports and we were (gratefully) supposed to play at home this weekend at the turf field across from Union Market. The Virginia based team we were supposed to play just canceled on us. Their coach said the parents felt unsafe about spend 5 hours in that location. Can’t say I blame them after what happened there. That’s probably a loss of $1000 for the shops at Union Market. It’s just one anecdotal example, but I’m sure it will happen more and more.

[Anonymous]

I’m a VA parent and work in DC. I drive in and drive out. That part of the city is not safe unlike other areas near Golden triangle and others.

I go there cuz I have to. But, yeah, sitting there for 5 hours with my kids, no way.

Chances are nothing will happen. But even the increase risk of crime or a shooting there is not a risk worth taking for my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid plays travel sports and we were (gratefully) supposed to play at home this weekend at the turf field across from Union Market. The Virginia based team we were supposed to play just canceled on us. Their coach said the parents felt unsafe about spend 5 hours in that location. Can’t say I blame them after what happened there. That’s probably a loss of $1000 for the shops at Union Market. It’s just one anecdotal example, but I’m sure it will happen more and more.

I’m sorry, but that seems nuts to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid plays travel sports and we were (gratefully) supposed to play at home this weekend at the turf field across from Union Market. The Virginia based team we were supposed to play just canceled on us. Their coach said the parents felt unsafe about spend 5 hours in that location. Can’t say I blame them after what happened there. That’s probably a loss of $1000 for the shops at Union Market. It’s just one anecdotal example, but I’m sure it will happen more and more.

I’m sorry, but that seems nuts to me.

Agreed. That's just lunacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid plays travel sports and we were (gratefully) supposed to play at home this weekend at the turf field across from Union Market. The Virginia based team we were supposed to play just canceled on us. Their coach said the parents felt unsafe about spend 5 hours in that location. Can’t say I blame them after what happened there. That’s probably a loss of $1000 for the shops at Union Market. It’s just one anecdotal example, but I’m sure it will happen more and more.

I’m sorry, but that seems nuts to me.

Agreed. That's just lunacy.

Really? Seems like a rational decision.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/union-market-armed-robbery-investigation/65-6a984c27-66ae-433b-95a8-5d4f99b707cd