Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:If she had reserved the bike, why did she get up and hop on the other as soon as that man said something like “why can’t you rent this bike?” Seems like that would be a good time to mention she’d already rented one. Does this app even allow you to take more than one bike at a time?

How did she wind up sitting on the bike if he'd already rented it? That makes no sense. If he'd rented it, wouldn't he have been holding it/sitting on it?

I think what happened is that she was in the process of getting out her phone to rent the bike and the guy got his out first and rented it. Like I think they were at the bike at the same time and he was a little faster. Which is rude, especially given that she is pregnant. And that's why she initially doesn't want to give the bike up, but eventually gets off and gets another bike.

I think these guys were being aggressive and bullying and they bullied a pregnant woman off a bike she's been getting ready to rent because there were four of them and one of her, plus they knew if they took a video of it they could call her a "Karen" and everyone would believe them.

I don't get why everyone is so convinced these guys are telling the truth. The video doesn't show any of the relevant info.

Why would she yell “help me” when he was asking her not to touch him? Why did she snatch his phone? Why, when someone asked about her renting an available bike, did she say “I can. I will.”

She is saying help me because she's sitting on a bike and a man is physically restraining the bike and won't let go.

I don't see her "snatch" his phone. I hear the the men say she did it, I don't see her doing it. I see her hand move towards something on the far side of the bike and him pull his hand back. They are having an altercation over whose bike it is. I don't see her try to take his phone.

I think she sat on this bike to rent it and then this man came and scanned the QR to rent it himself. So when she says "I can, I will" she means that it was obviously her intention to rent this bike but this guy came and rented it while she was sitting on it (again, how does she come to be sitting on the bike otherwise?).

Everything she says and does is explicable. There is zero evidence she is "stealing" the bike. All evidence points to: they arrived at the bike at the same time, she got on it first but he scanned the QR code first, and then they have an altercation over who it belongs to. And he wins, because he scanned the QR. But that does not equal "she's a thief who tried to steal his bike and weaponized her tears to get these men arrested or killed." Which is how it's being spun and that's insane. None of that is on the video.

Watch again. She reaches for it and when she pulls her hand back there’s something black in it that looks like a phone.

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Anonymous wrote:If she was literally trying to steal a bike that she had no claim to, I find it weird one of the men said “you’re not getting this bike” instead of “we aren’t going to let you steal this bike.” It sounds like they are trying to stop her from completing her rental (including preventing her from scanning the code) rather than preventing her from stealing.

If she were trying to steal she wouldn’t want to scan the code. But he’s clearly blocking the code and she clearly has her phone out TO scan it.

Why don’t she say so in the video instead of calling for help and “cry”? There is no explanation that will make her look good because of her reaction.

Again, what sense does it make to block the QR code then?

Even if I agree her reaction seems weird (although honestly not that weird if she thinks he’s stealing $1k from her) it makes no sense for each of them to do what they did if she were trying to steal from him and never scan the code.

Because the bike wasn’t undocked yet. You can actually hear that the bike gets undocked a bit into the video. It’s not undocked at first. So he’s covering up the QR code to keep her from scanning it. I’m not sure what happens when you scan a QR code for an unlocked bike that is still docked.

Her scanning the code specifically would PREVENT her from stealing the bike. He isn’t trying to prevent her from stealing from him. He is trying to prevent her from renting the bike on her own account.

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At the :19 second mark of the video, you hear the dock unlock. At this point, she is already on the bike. The dock unlocks WHEN you pay for the bike.

Meaning she is already ON the bike when he unlocks the bike.

Meaning he is trying to take the bike she is sitting on, and does so by scanning the QR code while she's sitting on it.

He is trying to bully her off the bike that she is in the process of renting, and he has the backing of three other people to help him do it.

She is crying because these guys just forced her off a bike she was renting.

People saying "why is she making a scene while they are calm?" Uh, because she is being pushed/bullied/berated off of the bike she was renting. They are calm because there is safety in numbers and because they are confident that they can simply call her racist. If she cries, they can point and say "fake tears." They are calm because they have the upper hand.

She looks to be maybe 5 months pregnant. These guys bullied a woman who is visibly pregnant and leaving a shift at a hospital off a bike. For no reason, as there are other bikes available. And they recorded it and posted it on the internet and are now claiming she is weaponizing white tears and calling her a racist.

I'm a liberal who supports affirmative action and DEI programs, has never voted for a Republican, and volunteers with an organization that does poverty outreach.

Those guys ganged up on a pregnant woman and are now trying to spin it like she's the bad one. Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:This is my experience with bike shares:

Person walks up to bike share station, identifies the bike they want to take. Sometimes you might look at a few bikes and pick one based on it's condition or whether you will need to adjust the seat.

Then you unlock the bike while either standing right next to it or sitting on it. I have never seen someone unlock a bike while standing more than a few inches from a bike. You have to scan the QR code to unlock it, so usually you are right next to it.

So I'm confused about several things:
- If he unlocked the bike, how did she manage to get on the bike? When the video starts, she's sitting on the bike. Did she walk up and sit on a bike that someone was literally holding as they unlocked it? That's extremely aggressive behavior and if that's what she did, I wish the guy in the video would just release a statement explaining it because that would clarify a lot.

- Or, assuming he unlocked the bike, did he walk away from it after unlocking it? This is unusual behavior -- people don't do this. In that case, I lean towards some kind of misunderstanding. Like if he unlocked it and walked away, and then she walked up and discovered the bike unlocked and thinks "cool, someone left it unlocked, free bike" that's not amazing behavior on her part but it's not as bad as actively trying to steal it. And then maybe when he walks up and says it's his, she's a jerk about it. This isn't a defense of her behavior, I'm just trying to understand what happened.

- Why doesn't he cancel the bike once she refuses to get off? Is that not possible? If this happened to me and someone tried to take a bike I'd paid for, that's what I'd do. And I'd tell them "ok I'm cancelling the bike and I'm going to take a photo of you and send it to them so they don't charge me." And then I'd leave and go find a different bike. Because I am not confrontational. I don't understand why their solution was to surround her (there are at least three people around her, the guy who says it's his bike, she friend who is blocking her from pulling it out, and the person filming her) and demand the bike back. That's not how I'd handle it and I think that's aggressive, conflict-seeking behavior regardless of what race you are.

I just have a lot of questions here. I get what people are saying about her "weaponized tears" and I agree she seems really manipulative there. But I can't tell if she's being manipulative because she literally stole this bike out from under him, or because she misunderstood the situation and then tried to save face, or because she genuinely thought the bike was hers and that's the tactic she was using to try and keep it, or what.

Like yeah, she weaponized tears. But he's using physical intimidation and numbers to get what he wants. Since I don't actually know what happened, I'm inclined to say they both behaved badly and I would not handle that situation the way either of them do. Almost everyone in the video except the guy who initially comes to help her and then is like "uh, I don't know what's going on, never mind" is behaving like a child. Including the guy demanding the bike and his friends. Sorry.

For the first two questions: yeah, I think it's possible that he wasn't right next to the bike when he unlocked it. He was there with a group of friends-maybe after he unlocked the bike he went over to help one of the friends adjust the seat, or give his friend something, or go use the restroom....many possibilities.

As for why he doesn't cancel it, why should he? If that was the last bike, then he needs it too to ride with his group of friends.

You have to be standing next to the bike to unlock it. You need the QR code. He couldn't unlock a bike while standing 10 feet away.

Your theory is that he unlocked a bike, went and used the bathroom, and then came back to find someone taking the bike, and your conclusion is that SHE is in the wrong? What? If that's what happened, it sounds like she thought the bike was available. If that's what happened, she is innocent and this guy is ridiculous.

I think it's most likely that they arrived at the bike at the same time, she might have even been at the bike first, but that he got his phone on the QR code first. Since she's sitting on the bike, I think he may even have done this as she sat on the bike. And then he and his friends bully her off of it.

I think she comes off as kind of annoying in the video, but that the group of guys are being bullies and jerks and calling her a racist to get away with it.

Actually the scenario where he unlocked the bike and then walked away from it (without taking it out of the dock) makes a lot of sense.

If he did do that, (1) why, that's weird. When you rent a bike, you get on it.

But (2) it backs up the idea that it's a misunderstanding because if I walked up to a bike that was unattended, I would assume it was free to rent.

And if I sat on that bike and then someone came over and grabbed it and started saying "it's my bike" over and over, I'd feel overwhelmed and freaked out and I definitely would not initially understand that he was saying he'd already unlocked it.

In fact, I might say "someone help me" because I'd be really uncomfortable about the man looming over me and grabbing the bike I was sitting on while several of his friends yell at me and talk over each other and one whips out a phone and starts recording me.

And maybe it would take me a few minutes to understand that he is saying he already paid of the bike, and when I finally understand that he's saying he paid for the bike, then wandered away for a few minutes, and is now back for the bike, I might get off the bike and go rent a different bike.

Which is what she does. And does not make her a racist weaponizing tears. Their behavior towards her is very threatening/intimidating and her response seems normal to me under those circumstances.

I truly think this is the scenario that makes sense. He’s with a bunch of friends and just got distracted and walked away after he scanned it. Confusion ensues.

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Anonymous wrote:If she was literally trying to steal a bike that she had no claim to, I find it weird one of the men said “you’re not getting this bike” instead of “we aren’t going to let you steal this bike.” It sounds like they are trying to stop her from completing her rental (including preventing her from scanning the code) rather than preventing her from stealing.

If she were trying to steal she wouldn’t want to scan the code. But he’s clearly blocking the code and she clearly has her phone out TO scan it.

Why don’t she say so in the video instead of calling for help and “cry”? There is no explanation that will make her look good because of her reaction.

Again, what sense does it make to block the QR code then?

Even if I agree her reaction seems weird (although honestly not that weird if she thinks he’s stealing $1k from her) it makes no sense for each of them to do what they did if she were trying to steal from him and never scan the code.

But she never claims she reserved it, though. Even when the white dude comes over to "help," he hears the story and doesn't tell them to just give the white woman "her" bike. He just tells the teens to cancel the bike order. Even the white savior dude recognizes that it is their bike, but asks them to just give in to the white woman's tears because it is easier.

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He had already rented that particular bike. It was on his account. He calmly tells her this. She starts crying out for help and dramatically accusing him of “hurting her fetus”. Her coworker approaches and that’s when the fake tears start. After coworker suggests she rent a different bike (because, you know, she had not actually rented the one she was trying to take) the fake waterworks stop and she moves on to an actually available bike.

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You are all insane. Will literally concoct the craziest stories to try to convince yourself that it could never be a white womans fault. This thread is repulsive

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is my experience with bike shares:

Person walks up to bike share station, identifies the bike they want to take. Sometimes you might look at a few bikes and pick one based on it's condition or whether you will need to adjust the seat.

Then you unlock the bike while either standing right next to it or sitting on it. I have never seen someone unlock a bike while standing more than a few inches from a bike. You have to scan the QR code to unlock it, so usually you are right next to it.

So I'm confused about several things:
- If he unlocked the bike, how did she manage to get on the bike? When the video starts, she's sitting on the bike. Did she walk up and sit on a bike that someone was literally holding as they unlocked it? That's extremely aggressive behavior and if that's what she did, I wish the guy in the video would just release a statement explaining it because that would clarify a lot.

- Or, assuming he unlocked the bike, did he walk away from it after unlocking it? This is unusual behavior -- people don't do this. In that case, I lean towards some kind of misunderstanding. Like if he unlocked it and walked away, and then she walked up and discovered the bike unlocked and thinks "cool, someone left it unlocked, free bike" that's not amazing behavior on her part but it's not as bad as actively trying to steal it. And then maybe when he walks up and says it's his, she's a jerk about it. This isn't a defense of her behavior, I'm just trying to understand what happened.

- Why doesn't he cancel the bike once she refuses to get off? Is that not possible? If this happened to me and someone tried to take a bike I'd paid for, that's what I'd do. And I'd tell them "ok I'm cancelling the bike and I'm going to take a photo of you and send it to them so they don't charge me." And then I'd leave and go find a different bike. Because I am not confrontational. I don't understand why their solution was to surround her (there are at least three people around her, the guy who says it's his bike, she friend who is blocking her from pulling it out, and the person filming her) and demand the bike back. That's not how I'd handle it and I think that's aggressive, conflict-seeking behavior regardless of what race you are.

I just have a lot of questions here. I get what people are saying about her "weaponized tears" and I agree she seems really manipulative there. But I can't tell if she's being manipulative because she literally stole this bike out from under him, or because she misunderstood the situation and then tried to save face, or because she genuinely thought the bike was hers and that's the tactic she was using to try and keep it, or what.

Like yeah, she weaponized tears. But he's using physical intimidation and numbers to get what he wants. Since I don't actually know what happened, I'm inclined to say they both behaved badly and I would not handle that situation the way either of them do. Almost everyone in the video except the guy who initially comes to help her and then is like "uh, I don't know what's going on, never mind" is behaving like a child. Including the guy demanding the bike and his friends. Sorry.

For the first two questions: yeah, I think it's possible that he wasn't right next to the bike when he unlocked it. He was there with a group of friends-maybe after he unlocked the bike he went over to help one of the friends adjust the seat, or give his friend something, or go use the restroom....many possibilities.

As for why he doesn't cancel it, why should he? If that was the last bike, then he needs it too to ride with his group of friends.

You have to be standing next to the bike to unlock it. You need the QR code. He couldn't unlock a bike while standing 10 feet away.

Your theory is that he unlocked a bike, went and used the bathroom, and then came back to find someone taking the bike, and your conclusion is that SHE is in the wrong? What? If that's what happened, it sounds like she thought the bike was available. If that's what happened, she is innocent and this guy is ridiculous.

I think it's most likely that they arrived at the bike at the same time, she might have even been at the bike first, but that he got his phone on the QR code first. Since she's sitting on the bike, I think he may even have done this as she sat on the bike. And then he and his friends bully her off of it.

I think she comes off as kind of annoying in the video, but that the group of guys are being bullies and jerks and calling her a racist to get away with it.

Actually the scenario where he unlocked the bike and then walked away from it (without taking it out of the dock) makes a lot of sense.

If he did do that, (1) why, that's weird. When you rent a bike, you get on it.

But (2) it backs up the idea that it's a misunderstanding because if I walked up to a bike that was unattended, I would assume it was free to rent.

And if I sat on that bike and then someone came over and grabbed it and started saying "it's my bike" over and over, I'd feel overwhelmed and freaked out and I definitely would not initially understand that he was saying he'd already unlocked it.

In fact, I might say "someone help me" because I'd be really uncomfortable about the man looming over me and grabbing the bike I was sitting on while several of his friends yell at me and talk over each other and one whips out a phone and starts recording me.

And maybe it would take me a few minutes to understand that he is saying he already paid of the bike, and when I finally understand that he's saying he paid for the bike, then wandered away for a few minutes, and is now back for the bike, I might get off the bike and go rent a different bike.

Which is what she does. And does not make her a racist weaponizing tears. Their behavior towards her is very threatening/intimidating and her response seems normal to me under those circumstances.

I truly think this is the scenario that makes sense. He’s with a bunch of friends and just got distracted and walked away after he scanned it. Confusion ensues.

Nope, you hear the bike unlock 20 seconds into the video. Meaning he had not unlocked the bike when she got on it. She got on an available bike, he tried (and succeeded) in snaking it out from under her.

He is 100% in the wrong here. All of her behavior is understandable and she's the one being dragged through the mud. Unreal.

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Anonymous wrote:He had already rented that particular bike. It was on his account. He calmly tells her this. She starts crying out for help and dramatically accusing him of “hurting her fetus”. Her coworker approaches and that’s when the fake tears start. After coworker suggests she rent a different bike (because, you know, she had not actually rented the one she was trying to take) the fake waterworks stop and she moves on to an actually available bike.

Nope.

She is on the bike. 20 second later, he uses his phone to unlock the bike (you literally hear this happen on the video, and when the video starts the bike is clearly locked into the dock and it's only after we hear it unlock that it pulls back). So she's on the bike BEFORE he puts it on his account. There are other bikes available, there's no reason he needs that bike. She was going to rent it, she was on it, he takes it from her.

She accuses him of trying to hurt her fetus because he is physically pushing her off a bike (that was available to rent and which she was presumably in the process of renting before he came up and started pushing her off it). He is being very physically aggressive and she's pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all insane. Will literally concoct the craziest stories to try to convince yourself that it could never be a white womans fault. This thread is repulsive

You’re not listening to reason. She wasn’t stealing the bike.

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Anonymous wrote:You are all insane. Will literally concoct the craziest stories to try to convince yourself that it could never be a white womans fault. This thread is repulsive

She is on the bike at the beginning of the video. It is locked into the dock. He uses his phone to unlock a bike that she is sitting on. She's mad (understandably) but they bully her until she gets off it and gets another bike.

This is literally what the video shows. You are the ones concocting a narrative. That woman didn't do anything wrong. Those guys are d*cks. And actually, you can hear some of the guy's friends trying to convince him not to do what he's doing. Because it's wrong!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He had already rented that particular bike. It was on his account. He calmly tells her this. She starts crying out for help and dramatically accusing him of “hurting her fetus”. Her coworker approaches and that’s when the fake tears start. After coworker suggests she rent a different bike (because, you know, she had not actually rented the one she was trying to take) the fake waterworks stop and she moves on to an actually available bike.

So you believe she was trying to steal a bike from another user by using their account? That’s your version of these events? Just to be clear.

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Anonymous wrote:At the :19 second mark of the video, you hear the dock unlock. At this point, she is already on the bike. The dock unlocks WHEN you pay for the bike.

Meaning she is already ON the bike when he unlocks the bike.

Meaning he is trying to take the bike she is sitting on, and does so by scanning the QR code while she's sitting on it.

He is trying to bully her off the bike that she is in the process of renting, and he has the backing of three other people to help him do it.

She is crying because these guys just forced her off a bike she was renting.

People saying "why is she making a scene while they are calm?" Uh, because she is being pushed/bullied/berated off of the bike she was renting. They are calm because there is safety in numbers and because they are confident that they can simply call her racist. If she cries, they can point and say "fake tears." They are calm because they have the upper hand.

She looks to be maybe 5 months pregnant. These guys bullied a woman who is visibly pregnant and leaving a shift at a hospital off a bike. For no reason, as there are other bikes available. And they recorded it and posted it on the internet and are now claiming she is weaponizing white tears and calling her a racist.

I'm a liberal who supports affirmative action and DEI programs, has never voted for a Republican, and volunteers with an organization that does poverty outreach.

Those guys ganged up on a pregnant woman and are now trying to spin it like she's the bad one. Disgusting.

Oh, I guess this scenario is possible too. He may have scanned the QR code earlier but not have completed the transaction until she was sitting on the bike.

Does the bike make that sound when it’s undocked, or when the transaction goes through?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He had already rented that particular bike. It was on his account. He calmly tells her this. She starts crying out for help and dramatically accusing him of “hurting her fetus”. Her coworker approaches and that’s when the fake tears start. After coworker suggests she rent a different bike (because, you know, she had not actually rented the one she was trying to take) the fake waterworks stop and she moves on to an actually available bike.

Nope.

She is on the bike. 20 second later, he uses his phone to unlock the bike (you literally hear this happen on the video, and when the video starts the bike is clearly locked into the dock and it's only after we hear it unlock that it pulls back). So she's on the bike BEFORE he puts it on his account. There are other bikes available, there's no reason he needs that bike. She was going to rent it, she was on it, he takes it from her.

She accuses him of trying to hurt her fetus because he is physically pushing her off a bike (that was available to rent and which she was presumably in the process of renting before he came up and started pushing her off it). He is being very physically aggressive and she's pregnant.

She pushes into him. He only moves towards her briefly after she takes his phone. He's not physically aggressively in the slightest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the :19 second mark of the video, you hear the dock unlock. At this point, she is already on the bike. The dock unlocks WHEN you pay for the bike.

Meaning she is already ON the bike when he unlocks the bike.

Meaning he is trying to take the bike she is sitting on, and does so by scanning the QR code while she's sitting on it.

He is trying to bully her off the bike that she is in the process of renting, and he has the backing of three other people to help him do it.

She is crying because these guys just forced her off a bike she was renting.

People saying "why is she making a scene while they are calm?" Uh, because she is being pushed/bullied/berated off of the bike she was renting. They are calm because there is safety in numbers and because they are confident that they can simply call her racist. If she cries, they can point and say "fake tears." They are calm because they have the upper hand.

She looks to be maybe 5 months pregnant. These guys bullied a woman who is visibly pregnant and leaving a shift at a hospital off a bike. For no reason, as there are other bikes available. And they recorded it and posted it on the internet and are now claiming she is weaponizing white tears and calling her a racist.

I'm a liberal who supports affirmative action and DEI programs, has never voted for a Republican, and volunteers with an organization that does poverty outreach.

Those guys ganged up on a pregnant woman and are now trying to spin it like she's the bad one. Disgusting.

Oh, I guess this scenario is possible too. He may have scanned the QR code earlier but not have completed the transaction until she was sitting on the bike.

Does the bike make that sound when it’s undocked, or when the transaction goes through?

It all happens at once. You scan the QR code and then the bike is released from the app.

He had not reserved, paid for, or unlocked the bike when she got on it. He does it after she is sitting on the bike.

He took the bike from her.