Succession - Season 4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:did tom leak to the press?

Seems like he wanted to/sort of told Greg to do it? Like he said "don't tell" but then also told him that peopel should know Tom was on the plane when it happened. I could see him telling reporters just to ensure his name is in the mix.

[Anonymous]

Kerry is pointless. Less of her, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kerry is pointless. Less of her, please.

I really don't like her for like how the actress is portraying her, but I do enjoy watching everyone else react to her. It occurred to me that Logan is (I think) still married to Marcia, they are just living apart and he'd been "with" Kerry. So:

(1) We may get to see a funeral with Marcia, Kerry, Kendall/Shiv/Roman's mom, and all the kids, which could be... interesting.

(2) Unclear what Kerry stands to gain here -- she's not going to inherit because they not only weren't married but weren't even publicly dating, and everyone else hates her. So I didn't really get it when everyone else on the plane was acting like she hit the jackpot. Are we going to find out Logan changed his will to give Kerry something meaningful (especially Waystar shares)? Especially if it turns out it happened that last day, after he had the fight with the kids and told them they are not serious people? That would be interesting to watch play out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:did tom leak to the press?

Yes, catch up. He called Greg from the airplane and had Greg leak it to the reporters on the boat to the wedding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to retitle this saying: “Spoilers inside!”

Eh I think you don’t click on a thread if you’re not caught up. Speaking of spoilers, I am amazed this didn’t leak!

It sort of did- there were pictures of the cast filming a funeral and casket, but the speculation was that Logan’s brother died (to what significance that would have been, I’m not sure.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did tom leak to the press?

Yes, catch up. He called Greg from the airplane and had Greg leak it to the reporters on the boat to the wedding.

How does Tom benefit from the leak? Everyone knew their stock would tank and the deal with the hot swede would likely not go through. How does that benefit Tom?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to retitle this saying: “Spoilers inside!”

Eh I think you don’t click on a thread if you’re not caught up. Speaking of spoilers, I am amazed this didn’t leak!

It sort of did- there were pictures of the cast filming a funeral and casket, but the speculation was that Logan’s brother died (to what significance that would have been, I’m not sure.)

If the uncle had died there is speculation that he would leave his voting share to Greg. But he did threaten to leave it to Greenpeace but who knows.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I heart Connor. The cake story was so sad.

He was the only one I felt sorry for. All Logan did was ignore, belittle and manipulate his kids. I don't buy there would have been an ounce of affection or grief after everything he put them through.

More like a void when a larger-than-life parent withholds their approval.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heart Connor. The cake story was so sad.

He was the only one I felt sorry for. All Logan did was ignore, belittle and manipulate his kids. I don't buy there would have been an ounce of affection or grief after everything he put them through.

More like a void when a larger-than-life parent withholds their approval.

Yeah, they can expect to feel a lot of grief, and anger, over the realization that with their dad dead, they will now for sure never get the love and approval they needed and wanted from him their entire lives. Like as long as he was alive, there was always the hope he would show up for them as they hoped he would since childhood. Now that hope is gone and they will grieve that as much ir more than the person. And may feel anger/rage about it, and may struggle to process that.

You know, given the level of emotional neglect these people have all experienced, it’s actually pretty amazing they are as functional they are. Like they aren’t just dead inside. Clearly care about each other, have a sense responsibility for others, etc.

God bless the nannies. Probably the only people standing between people like this becoming absolute psychopaths (Trump had Nannie’s too I’m sure, but his dad sent him to military school which I think is just more if the same withholding garbage).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heart Connor. The cake story was so sad.

He was the only one I felt sorry for. All Logan did was ignore, belittle and manipulate his kids. I don't buy there would have been an ounce of affection or grief after everything he put them through.

More like a void when a larger-than-life parent withholds their approval.

In hindsight Logan’s final speech to them was *chef’s kiss*, brilliantly delivered by Brian Cox.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:did tom leak to the press?

Yes, catch up. He called Greg from the airplane and had Greg leak it to the reporters on the boat to the wedding.

How does Tom benefit from the leak? Everyone knew their stock would tank and the deal with the hot swede would likely not go through. How does that benefit Tom?

Part of the leak was that Tom was with Logan when he died, making him seem important. Logan was the only one keeping Tom around. And previously shiv, but you know how that’s going. Will be interesting to see how he hitched himself back to her as the tide turns away from him now that Logan is gone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So was Gerry really fired or not?

I mean it's up the air, right? She was technically fired but the only people who know that (or will admit they know it) are Roman, Tom, and Kerry. It's very clear Frank and Carl are moving to support her (I loved when one of they jumped in with "I think it's important for the markets that Frank, Carl, and Gerry be mentioned in the official statements" -- yes, *for the markets*). roman didn't want to fire her anyway and Tom is going to be 100% self-interested here. Kerry is the wildcard and I could definitely see her throwing wrenches in all kinds of things actually.

I thought it was interesting when Roman was clearly looking for that maternal/protective thing from Gerry towards the end of the episode and she just walks away because she was still mad at him for firing her. It was sad because roman seemed like a little kid in this episode, but also I don't really blame Gerry.

Karolina knows too but I think she’d be supportive of Gerri. Agree on Kerry throwing some wrenches in whatever plans, otherwise this feels like a long extended elaborate plot line.

[Anonymous]

What was in the computer folder Tom told Greg to erase?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heart Connor. The cake story was so sad.

He was the only one I felt sorry for. All Logan did was ignore, belittle and manipulate his kids. I don't buy there would have been an ounce of affection or grief after everything he put them through.

Well as someone who had a very dysfunctional childhood and complicated relationship with a parent who died unexpectedly, I thought it was believable. The Roy kids are so emotionally stunted, they had such a difficult time saying I love you in his final moments, and being vulnerable at all. It was like they were fighting with how they really felt and how he thought they were supposed to feel. Incredible acting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What was in the computer folder Tom told Greg to erase?

Presumably logistics for what happened after Logan fired cyd (the head of ATN.)