UVA EA Stats

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Understand your frustration for sure. How were his essays and what was his class ranking? It’s an unfortunate fact that not everyone can get in. So sorry.

Rank top 5% essays were really strong - multiple teachers said they were great.

Wow. You talked to “multiple teachers” about your kid’s college essays???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

How in the world did you read your kid’s recommendations? That’s highly unusual and makes me wonder if you’re waaaay too invested in this process.

And your kid isn’t entitled to UVA admissions. There are plenty of other excellent Virginia state schools.

Not PP, but some recommenders let kids/parents read the LORs. I don't think a parent can be too invested in the process in this day and age. And while no kid is entitled to admission, I entirely sympathize with disappointed parents with stats like these.

Exercise a little grace, PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Legacy matters when all things are equal. The out of state pool is very competitive.

Exactly. Look at the stats - there is a definite legacy bump at UVa. You have to be qualified but if you have two kids with the same stats - are you going to take the legacy or other? Higher likelihood that the legacy will accept.

Dean J has made it clear: out of state legacies are considered with the in state applicant pool for admission purposes (although obviously not for tuition purposes). This applicant’s qualifications for in state admissions were good, but not compelling. Many in state student with those stats didn’t get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Understand your frustration for sure. How were his essays and what was his class ranking? It’s an unfortunate fact that not everyone can get in. So sorry.

Rank top 5% essays were really strong - multiple teachers said they were great.

Wow. You talked to “multiple teachers” about your kid’s college essays???

+1 not to mention that teachers do not know what colleges want to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

How in the world did you read your kid’s recommendations? That’s highly unusual and makes me wonder if you’re waaaay too invested in this process.

And your kid isn’t entitled to UVA admissions. There are plenty of other excellent Virginia state schools.

Not PP, but some recommenders let kids/parents read the LORs. I don't think a parent can be too invested in the process in this day and age. And while no kid is entitled to admission, I entirely sympathize with disappointed parents with stats like these.

Exercise a little grace, PP.

Sorry but no - most students and their parents do not read the teacher recommendations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

OOS legacy applicants are reviewed with the in state pool. That’s a pretty big bump. In state legacies don’t get as much of a bump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Public numbers show that UVA has an overall 20-ish% acceptance rate and W&M something like 33-37%. I don't have internal numbers for Fall 2022, though.
UMD surprised everyone by getting to 34% acceptance rate this year, down from its usual 45-ish%, due to a glut of applicants.
They all favor their in-state and early action or early decision applicants to varying degrees.

2023 Virginia resident
UVA EA DEFERRED
W&M RD "Postcard"
UMD EA Direct admit to CS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

How in the world did you read your kid’s recommendations? That’s highly unusual and makes me wonder if you’re waaaay too invested in this process.

And your kid isn’t entitled to UVA admissions. There are plenty of other excellent Virginia state schools.

Not PP, but some recommenders let kids/parents read the LORs. I don't think a parent can be too invested in the process in this day and age. And while no kid is entitled to admission, I entirely sympathize with disappointed parents with stats like these.

Exercise a little grace, PP.

DP here.
My kid had 2 teachers who wrote letters and share them.
One surprisingly emailed and said "I uploaded your recommendation, here's a copy"
The 2nd provided the letter because my kid needed it for an internship application.
It was that 2nd letter that my kid said "I think I'm getting into my ED school BECAUSE of this letter." (even though they have good everything else). Kid did get into ED school AND also got the competitive internship.

So sorry for the PP who got deferred-- fingers crossed for you that it works out!

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I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Is this a NOVA public HS? If so, 7 APs is kind of low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Public numbers show that UVA has an overall 20-ish% acceptance rate and W&M something like 33-37%. I don't have internal numbers for Fall 2022, though.
UMD surprised everyone by getting to 34% acceptance rate this year, down from its usual 45-ish%, due to a glut of applicants.
They all favor their in-state and early action or early decision applicants to varying degrees.

2023 Virginia resident
UVA EA DEFERRED
W&M RD "Postcard"
UMD EA Direct admit to CS

Yes, because as stated upthread, UVA is more selective than the other schools, so a VA resident has a better shot at UMD than UVA. It does not negate the fact that UVA favors its in-state residents, meaning that oos applicants to UVA face great hurdles getting in with an acceptance rate in the 15%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

It does make me wonder how many are legacies or otherwise connected. Could be a soft-rejection method.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

It's a cognitive dissonance many parents face, PP. I'm not the poster you replied to, but many people who are nostalgic for their school and wish to support it get disgruntled when they realize admissions have become so ultra-competitive that their very high-stats kids can't get in. I sympathize. I went to university in continental Europe, where it's free and there is no mechanism to donate, so I'm not in that mindset at all. I'm just relieved my kids are getting in somewhere decent - and aghast that I have to pay what a European would consider an astronomical sum for the privilege!

Same situation here and I can subscribe 100% to the above.