Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the footage of the VERY beginning??

Video 1 begins with them pulling him over and ripping him out of the car.

They’ve kept other parts out.

I think it got even worse.

They should be forced to release the footage of the incident from the very start. What’s to hide?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s on Vimeo. The cops came in hot. Not sure if he didn’t pull over immediately but they were clearly angry and dragged him from the car. He was calm and trying to talk to them. He got scared and ran. They got angry that they had to chase him. Looks like one cop maybe got sprayed in his eye.

They find him and kick him in the head multiple times. They hold him while others near him.

How can anyone feel safe around police no matter your color or their color? These men beat him to death.

I’m so heartbroken for his family. I can’t imagine dying like that. Feeling so helpless and terrified.

So sickening.

Being enraged to riot is understandable but it’s not the cops who will suffer.

I know the job messes with your head.

I wish we weren’t such a violent country/culture.

What a $hitty world we’ve created for our children.

There's something really wrong with many, many, many men. They have these fragile little egos and when something doesn't go their way, they react to an insane level. Is it right to run from a cop? No, but it should never be a death sentence or result in straight up violence.

I generally advocate for doing what cops say and dealing with any wring doing in court. But after watching the video, how hot they came in, dragging him from the car, screaming and oepoer spraying him while he tried to de-escalate...at a certain point, if I think my life is in danger, I'm going to try to get away. I can't really blame him for that. Maybe they killed him because he ran, but Tyre ran because he thought they were going to kill him. And they did.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Great strategy! Fight the police because they will kill you if you don't. ha

I mean he could have laid there and let them suffocate him against the ground or beat him to death on the spot. I’d at least give myself the chance to live by running. He’s seen all the same videos and court cases of these scenarios to know, he’s likely going to die. I mean hell at this point being in your home and eating ice cream or sleeping can get you killed by cops with zero liability from the cops. Reckless driving/DUI does not justify beating a person to death, but I guess if you are black that’s the reason it is. He pulled over and stopped for Christ sake.

+1. Tyre Nichols did not die because he failed to follow directions. He died because these pigs wanted to kill him. That’s it.

Cops murder people all the time who comply with their directions.

Unfortunately, that is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the footage of the VERY beginning??

Video 1 begins with them pulling him over and ripping him out of the car.

They’ve kept other parts out.

I think it got even worse.

They should be forced to release the footage of the incident from the very start. What’s to hide?

It will be at trial. I think they are hiding the rest in order to keep some semblance of peace.

They said there is over an hour of video start to finish.

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Anonymous wrote:Tragic.

May this death be the catalyst needed for more, better and longer police training that includes deescalation methods and building positive police culture.

Again, how did the whole thing start? At least two posters are now asking.

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I don’t know. The news said it was a traffic stop. But there may have been another reason for the scorpion unit to go so violent so quickly.

Whatever the reason was, the police need more training on deescalation and appropriate level of force to do their tough jobs.

This was tragic and obviously excessive use of force even if he was a drug dealer or whatever. There was no evidence on the video he was reaching for a gun as the police claimed .they kept kicking and hitting him while he was handcuffed on the ground. It was clearly unnecessary use of lethal force.

What evidence is there of him being a drug dealer? When did this place become infested with racists?

Even assuming everything this person said was true the video is indefensible. Of course they're just talking out their rear.

You and person taking offense have reading comprehension issues. The person advocating for better and longer police training said he or she did not know what the reason the scorpion unit stopped him was. He or she said even it was something worse than a routine trait tx stop, and again they did not know, that the video made it clear that police force was brutal and unnecessary use of lethal force.

That's part of the message. The other part was them saying he shouldn't have been beaten even if he was a drug dealer. He wasn't a drug dealer. That accusation hasn't even been made by the police accused of beating him. But if enough people start saying things like that, others will latch onto his name and drug dealer, and assume it's true because he was a black man pulled over and beaten by the police, and they want to believe that police wouldn't do that without some sort of cause. It's an almost subtle way of planting the seeds of lies in people's heads.

If you really want to defend him and say he shouldn't have died, say he shouldn't have died. He shouldn't have been beaten. The police shouldn't have used force. Don't randomly insert crimes and say you don't know if he committed them but even if he did, that wouldn't justify killing him.

Thank you for explaining what I was apparently failing to.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Floyd case the officer on crowd control was also charged with the same offenses as the officers holding Floyd down.

I wonder if there will be any more charges for the cops who stood around and watched.

Depends on which officers you are talking about. The difference between the floyd case and this case is that officers were busy attempting to control the perp in this case.

Not, they were beating him for sport. It is disturbing you can’t recognize that.

+1 They’re shouting show us your hands as they're holding his hands, and get on the ground as he's on already on the ground. Then they’re deciding what their story should be later.

You left out the part of him continuing to resist officers. Only a crazy person would think this is a good way to get out of the situation unscathed. Did he think he was going to win the fight?

You disgusting people will go to any lengths to defend bad cops. 🤮

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Anonymous wrote:The only ones who appear to be on something are the overly aggressive cops. I didn’t see anything to suggest he was high or drunk.

Shouldn’t authorities know what (if anything) was in his system? Is it being hidden?

It doesn’t really matter actually. Cops pull over drunk white people every night of the week and don’t beat and kill them.

Drunk teens run from cops and are not beaten.

Drunks after sporting events riot in the street, cops don’t beat them.

Cops can only use force when they believe there is a danger to themselves or the community. There never was.

Please do not continue to post anything that could be construed as race baiting.

Responses should be limited to people who have actual knowledge and experience with police tactics and procedures.

Does a prosecutor count for you? Because my sister is a prosecutor watched the video and was beyond disgusted. She absolutely agrees with the murder charges.

No, she is nothing more than a lawyer. Please refer to the thread rules above ^

7 people in my family are LEO and they can name 5 violations of the law by the cops before he ran.

This is 1st degree murder open and shut.

He never was a threat.

Good luck with that. Just because he wasn't a threat doesn't mean you are going to get a 1st degree murder conviction. Some officers were guilty of absolutely nothing and one guy is likely guilty of something pretty bad like 2nd degree murder or manslaughter.

Nope intent was created when the held him up handcuffed and beat him.

Intend was created when the other pushed cop out of the way and kicked him in the head while on the ground.

Intent can be formed at any point during the encounter it doesn’t have to be formed before the incident.

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Anonymous wrote:The only ones who appear to be on something are the overly aggressive cops. I didn’t see anything to suggest he was high or drunk.

Shouldn’t authorities know what (if anything) was in his system? Is it being hidden?

It doesn’t really matter actually. Cops pull over drunk white people every night of the week and don’t beat and kill them.

Drunk teens run from cops and are not beaten.

Drunks after sporting events riot in the street, cops don’t beat them.

Cops can only use force when they believe there is a danger to themselves or the community. There never was.

Please do not continue to post anything that could be construed as race baiting.

Responses should be limited to people who have actual knowledge and experience with police tactics and procedures.

Does a prosecutor count for you? Because my sister is a prosecutor watched the video and was beyond disgusted. She absolutely agrees with the murder charges.

No, she is nothing more than a lawyer. Please refer to the thread rules above ^

7 people in my family are LEO and they can name 5 violations of the law by the cops before he ran.

This is 1st degree murder open and shut.

He never was a threat.

Good luck with that. Just because he wasn't a threat doesn't mean you are going to get a 1st degree murder conviction. Some officers were guilty of absolutely nothing and one guy is likely guilty of something pretty bad like 2nd degree murder or manslaughter.

Nope intent was created when the held him up handcuffed and beat him.

Intend was created when the other pushed cop out of the way and kicked him in the head while on the ground.

Intent can be formed at any point during the encounter it doesn’t have to be formed before the incident.

Intent can also be inferred from the length and extent of the beating.

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I know it’s true that many cops get livid if they have to chase after someone. Are there any physical health requirements for these cops? So many of them seem overweight and out of shape. I bet many hardly CAN run without nearly killing themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s true that many cops get livid if they have to chase after someone. Are there any physical health requirements for these cops? So many of them seem overweight and out of shape. I bet many hardly CAN run without nearly killing themselves.

Wtf does overweight cops have to do with killing an innocent black man?!?

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s true that many cops get livid if they have to chase after someone. Are there any physical health requirements for these cops? So many of them seem overweight and out of shape. I bet many hardly CAN run without nearly killing themselves.

Wtf does overweight cops have to do with killing an innocent black man?!?

Check your comprehension.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.

I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.

If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.

The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.

As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?

Getting rid of horrible cops needs to be easier. NP

Certainly everyone here should agree on that.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s on Vimeo. The cops came in hot. Not sure if he didn’t pull over immediately but they were clearly angry and dragged him from the car. He was calm and trying to talk to them. He got scared and ran. They got angry that they had to chase him. Looks like one cop maybe got sprayed in his eye.

They find him and kick him in the head multiple times. They hold him while others near him.

How can anyone feel safe around police no matter your color or their color? These men beat him to death.

I’m so heartbroken for his family. I can’t imagine dying like that. Feeling so helpless and terrified.

So sickening.

Being enraged to riot is understandable but it’s not the cops who will suffer.

I know the job messes with your head.

I wish we weren’t such a violent country/culture.

What a $hitty world we’ve created for our children.

There's something really wrong with many, many, many men. They have these fragile little egos and when something doesn't go their way, they react to an insane level. Is it right to run from a cop? No, but it should never be a death sentence or result in straight up violence.

I generally advocate for doing what cops say and dealing with any wring doing in court. But after watching the video, how hot they came in, dragging him from the car, screaming and oepoer spraying him while he tried to de-escalate...at a certain point, if I think my life is in danger, I'm going to try to get away. I can't really blame him for that. Maybe they killed him because he ran, but Tyre ran because he thought they were going to kill him. And they did.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Great strategy! Fight the police because they will kill you if you don't. ha

I mean he could have laid there and let them suffocate him against the ground or beat him to death on the spot. I’d at least give myself the chance to live by running. He’s seen all the same videos and court cases of these scenarios to know, he’s likely going to die. I mean hell at this point being in your home and eating ice cream or sleeping can get you killed by cops with zero liability from the cops. Reckless driving/DUI does not justify beating a person to death, but I guess if you are black that’s the reason it is. He pulled over and stopped for Christ sake.

+1. Tyre Nichols did not die because he failed to follow directions. He died because these pigs wanted to kill him. That’s it.

Cops murder people all the time who comply with their directions.

You think this never happens? A cop in Florida shot a Black behavioral therapist who was complying when the autistic boy who was supposed to comply wasn’t. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna745716

Nobody said that. It rarely happens. Do you realize that you aren't privy to what over a million police officers do on a daily basis? You only know what pops up on your phone, and that's a big difference.

DP. You think the fact that not every cop brutalizes people excuses the ones who do? WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Nowhere in the PP’s post did they say that the officers should be excused for their behavior. Nothing is wrong with that PP. They simply posted that incidents are actually rare, despite what social media shows. Statistics prove this. Over 99% of police interactions (per FBI statistics) involve no use of force. That doesn’t mean there aren’t horrific uses of force, but it does demonstrate that this is rare. Of the uses of force that do occur, most are deemed justified. (Keep in mind that merely putting on handcuffs can be a use of force.)

I’m sure the PP would appreciate if you don’t jump to conclusions.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s on Vimeo. The cops came in hot. Not sure if he didn’t pull over immediately but they were clearly angry and dragged him from the car. He was calm and trying to talk to them. He got scared and ran. They got angry that they had to chase him. Looks like one cop maybe got sprayed in his eye.

They find him and kick him in the head multiple times. They hold him while others near him.

How can anyone feel safe around police no matter your color or their color? These men beat him to death.

I’m so heartbroken for his family. I can’t imagine dying like that. Feeling so helpless and terrified.

So sickening.

Being enraged to riot is understandable but it’s not the cops who will suffer.

I know the job messes with your head.

I wish we weren’t such a violent country/culture.

What a $hitty world we’ve created for our children.

There's something really wrong with many, many, many men. They have these fragile little egos and when something doesn't go their way, they react to an insane level. Is it right to run from a cop? No, but it should never be a death sentence or result in straight up violence.

I generally advocate for doing what cops say and dealing with any wring doing in court. But after watching the video, how hot they came in, dragging him from the car, screaming and oepoer spraying him while he tried to de-escalate...at a certain point, if I think my life is in danger, I'm going to try to get away. I can't really blame him for that. Maybe they killed him because he ran, but Tyre ran because he thought they were going to kill him. And they did.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Great strategy! Fight the police because they will kill you if you don't. ha

I mean he could have laid there and let them suffocate him against the ground or beat him to death on the spot. I’d at least give myself the chance to live by running. He’s seen all the same videos and court cases of these scenarios to know, he’s likely going to die. I mean hell at this point being in your home and eating ice cream or sleeping can get you killed by cops with zero liability from the cops. Reckless driving/DUI does not justify beating a person to death, but I guess if you are black that’s the reason it is. He pulled over and stopped for Christ sake.

+1. Tyre Nichols did not die because he failed to follow directions. He died because these pigs wanted to kill him. That’s it.

Cops murder people all the time who comply with their directions.

You think this never happens? A cop in Florida shot a Black behavioral therapist who was complying when the autistic boy who was supposed to comply wasn’t. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna745716

Nobody said that. It rarely happens. Do you realize that you aren't privy to what over a million police officers do on a daily basis? You only know what pops up on your phone, and that's a big difference.

DP. You think the fact that not every cop brutalizes people excuses the ones who do? WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Nowhere in the PP’s post did they say that the officers should be excused for their behavior. Nothing is wrong with that PP. They simply posted that incidents are actually rare, despite what social media shows. Statistics prove this. Over 99% of police interactions (per FBI statistics) involve no use of force. That doesn’t mean there aren’t horrific uses of force, but it does demonstrate that this is rare. Of the uses of force that do occur, most are deemed justified. (Keep in mind that merely putting on handcuffs can be a use of force.)

I’m sure the PP would appreciate if you don’t jump to conclusions.

I would suggest you go back and reread the exchange, because pp absolutely was trying to deflect from the brutality of Nichols’ murder by citing to the fact that not all cops do this.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s on Vimeo. The cops came in hot. Not sure if he didn’t pull over immediately but they were clearly angry and dragged him from the car. He was calm and trying to talk to them. He got scared and ran. They got angry that they had to chase him. Looks like one cop maybe got sprayed in his eye.

They find him and kick him in the head multiple times. They hold him while others near him.

How can anyone feel safe around police no matter your color or their color? These men beat him to death.

I’m so heartbroken for his family. I can’t imagine dying like that. Feeling so helpless and terrified.

So sickening.

Being enraged to riot is understandable but it’s not the cops who will suffer.

I know the job messes with your head.

I wish we weren’t such a violent country/culture.

What a $hitty world we’ve created for our children.

There's something really wrong with many, many, many men. They have these fragile little egos and when something doesn't go their way, they react to an insane level. Is it right to run from a cop? No, but it should never be a death sentence or result in straight up violence.

I generally advocate for doing what cops say and dealing with any wring doing in court. But after watching the video, how hot they came in, dragging him from the car, screaming and oepoer spraying him while he tried to de-escalate...at a certain point, if I think my life is in danger, I'm going to try to get away. I can't really blame him for that. Maybe they killed him because he ran, but Tyre ran because he thought they were going to kill him. And they did.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Great strategy! Fight the police because they will kill you if you don't. ha

I mean he could have laid there and let them suffocate him against the ground or beat him to death on the spot. I’d at least give myself the chance to live by running. He’s seen all the same videos and court cases of these scenarios to know, he’s likely going to die. I mean hell at this point being in your home and eating ice cream or sleeping can get you killed by cops with zero liability from the cops. Reckless driving/DUI does not justify beating a person to death, but I guess if you are black that’s the reason it is. He pulled over and stopped for Christ sake.

+1. Tyre Nichols did not die because he failed to follow directions. He died because these pigs wanted to kill him. That’s it.

Cops murder people all the time who comply with their directions.

You think this never happens? A cop in Florida shot a Black behavioral therapist who was complying when the autistic boy who was supposed to comply wasn’t. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna745716

Nobody said that. It rarely happens. Do you realize that you aren't privy to what over a million police officers do on a daily basis? You only know what pops up on your phone, and that's a big difference.

DP. You think the fact that not every cop brutalizes people excuses the ones who do? WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Nowhere in the PP’s post did they say that the officers should be excused for their behavior. Nothing is wrong with that PP. They simply posted that incidents are actually rare, despite what social media shows. Statistics prove this. Over 99% of police interactions (per FBI statistics) involve no use of force. That doesn’t mean there aren’t horrific uses of force, but it does demonstrate that this is rare. Of the uses of force that do occur, most are deemed justified. (Keep in mind that merely putting on handcuffs can be a use of force.)

I’m sure the PP would appreciate if you don’t jump to conclusions.

Why are you making excuses for this behavior?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s on Vimeo. The cops came in hot. Not sure if he didn’t pull over immediately but they were clearly angry and dragged him from the car. He was calm and trying to talk to them. He got scared and ran. They got angry that they had to chase him. Looks like one cop maybe got sprayed in his eye.

They find him and kick him in the head multiple times. They hold him while others near him.

How can anyone feel safe around police no matter your color or their color? These men beat him to death.

I’m so heartbroken for his family. I can’t imagine dying like that. Feeling so helpless and terrified.

So sickening.

Being enraged to riot is understandable but it’s not the cops who will suffer.

I know the job messes with your head.

I wish we weren’t such a violent country/culture.

What a $hitty world we’ve created for our children.

There's something really wrong with many, many, many men. They have these fragile little egos and when something doesn't go their way, they react to an insane level. Is it right to run from a cop? No, but it should never be a death sentence or result in straight up violence.

I generally advocate for doing what cops say and dealing with any wring doing in court. But after watching the video, how hot they came in, dragging him from the car, screaming and oepoer spraying him while he tried to de-escalate...at a certain point, if I think my life is in danger, I'm going to try to get away. I can't really blame him for that. Maybe they killed him because he ran, but Tyre ran because he thought they were going to kill him. And they did.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Great strategy! Fight the police because they will kill you if you don't. ha

I mean he could have laid there and let them suffocate him against the ground or beat him to death on the spot. I’d at least give myself the chance to live by running. He’s seen all the same videos and court cases of these scenarios to know, he’s likely going to die. I mean hell at this point being in your home and eating ice cream or sleeping can get you killed by cops with zero liability from the cops. Reckless driving/DUI does not justify beating a person to death, but I guess if you are black that’s the reason it is. He pulled over and stopped for Christ sake.

+1. Tyre Nichols did not die because he failed to follow directions. He died because these pigs wanted to kill him. That’s it.

Cops murder people all the time who comply with their directions.

You think this never happens? A cop in Florida shot a Black behavioral therapist who was complying when the autistic boy who was supposed to comply wasn’t. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna745716

Nobody said that. It rarely happens. Do you realize that you aren't privy to what over a million police officers do on a daily basis? You only know what pops up on your phone, and that's a big difference.

DP. You think the fact that not every cop brutalizes people excuses the ones who do? WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Nowhere in the PP’s post did they say that the officers should be excused for their behavior. Nothing is wrong with that PP. They simply posted that incidents are actually rare, despite what social media shows. Statistics prove this. Over 99% of police interactions (per FBI statistics) involve no use of force. That doesn’t mean there aren’t horrific uses of force, but it does demonstrate that this is rare. Of the uses of force that do occur, most are deemed justified. (Keep in mind that merely putting on handcuffs can be a use of force.)

I’m sure the PP would appreciate if you don’t jump to conclusions.

I would suggest you go back and reread the exchange, because pp absolutely was trying to deflect from the brutality of Nichols’ murder by citing to the fact that not all cops do this.

Are you suggesting that all cops do this? Really?
The PP said nothing wrong.