DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Disney has had sweetheart deals in Florida for decades beginning when they came in the 1960's and bought up thousands of acres of orange groves for very little money per acre under a shell company so to pay very, very, little for the land. Disney did not want to buy land under the Disney name as the price per acre for the orange groves would sky rocket.

Desantis' move is good for the State of Florida and for Floridians.

Wtf are you going on about? You make no sense. Land in center Florida in 1960’s was very cheap because there was nothing there- no roads, no people, no airport, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Raising taxes on your constituents to own the libs.

And he forgets that Disney has studios that can produce top quality documentaries and advertisements. It won’t be long before Disney tells it’s side of the story to all of Florida. This action by DeSantis seems to be a knee jerk action and not well thought out. In five years he will be largely forgotten in politics.

Oh, I think in five years he may be president

How right you are!

He won’t win the popular vote and we may face another violent insurrection when he insists that he has - just like a chip off the fascist block.

What would happen if a fascist leader took over? Would the country go on a national strike? my and CA leave the union? Millions of rednecks with guns threaten people? Or life as usual with obvious changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do any other companies offer municipal bonds?

Disney isn’t offering the bonds. Reedy Creek Improvement District—as a municipality—purchased the bonds.

How much of the billion they owe benefits Disney?

Sounds like this debt keeps building up and no one ever pays it off?

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Anonymous wrote:Do any other companies offer municipal bonds?

Disney isn’t offering the bonds. Reedy Creek Improvement District—as a municipality—purchased the bonds.

How much of the billion they owe benefits Disney?

Sounds like this debt keeps building up and no one ever pays it off?

Does Disney have huge unpaid debt in California too?

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Anonymous wrote:Do any other companies offer municipal bonds?

Disney isn’t offering the bonds. Reedy Creek Improvement District—as a municipality—purchased the bonds.

How much of the billion they owe benefits Disney?

Most of it but the law is the law. The debt will transfer to the two counties. Never thought you could put a price on hate of gays but DeSantis has done it. This will be in addition to the infrastructure maintenance and health and safety cost. Disney will come out way ahead in this deal. They will pay the same amount of taxes but reduce their cost. DeSantis is an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

Fighting against "don't say gay" bill promotes homophobia? LOL

R logic.

Let's face it, Rs are glad to be able to "come out of the" hate closet.

Misrepresenting a bill which is designed to keep LGBT wokeness out of elementary education as a "don't say gay bill" is contributing to anti gay sentiment against teens and adults.

It is possible to teach addition to first graders without discussing the preferred pronouns of everyone in the word problem!

Technically, "don't say gay" and "keep LGBT wokeness out" both don't describe the bill. It's a ban on instruction of sexual orientation and gender identity. So sure, no mention of anything gay -- but nothing straight either.

It does more than just that.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

Fighting against "don't say gay" bill promotes homophobia? LOL

R logic.

Let's face it, Rs are glad to be able to "come out of the" hate closet.

Misrepresenting a bill which is designed to keep LGBT wokeness out of elementary education as a "don't say gay bill" is contributing to anti gay sentiment against teens and adults.

It is possible to teach addition to first graders without discussing the preferred pronouns of everyone in the word problem!

So, again, you are saying that fighting against wokeness is making people hate gays? I think it's more likely that these people hate that wokeness has invaded education, and Trump and Desantis has made it a-ok to come out of their hate closet.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-democrats-claim-dont-say-gay-bill-what-legislation-says

It does prohibit classroom instruction, not casual discussion, on "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" with children in third grade or younger, "or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

So what is "developmentally appropriate" here.

Can a word problem say "Billy has two dads" ? Or must it say "Bill has a mom and a dad", but not "two dads".

Seems to me that it is trying to prohibit "normalizing" gay people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

Fighting against "don't say gay" bill promotes homophobia? LOL

R logic.

Let's face it, Rs are glad to be able to "come out of the" hate closet.

Misrepresenting a bill which is designed to keep LGBT wokeness out of elementary education as a "don't say gay bill" is contributing to anti gay sentiment against teens and adults.

It is possible to teach addition to first graders without discussing the preferred pronouns of everyone in the word problem!

So, again, you are saying that fighting against wokeness is making people hate gays? I think it's more likely that these people hate that wokeness has invaded education, and Trump and Desantis has made it a-ok to come out of their hate closet.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-democrats-claim-dont-say-gay-bill-what-legislation-says

It does prohibit classroom instruction, not casual discussion, on "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" with children in third grade or younger, "or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

So what is "developmentally appropriate" here.

Can a word problem say "Billy has two dads" ? Or must it say "Bill has a mom and a dad", but not "two dads".

Seems to me that it is trying to prohibit "normalizing" gay people.

Based on the plain language of the bill, it can say neither. It can't even refer to Billy as a "he."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do any other companies offer municipal bonds?

Disney isn’t offering the bonds. Reedy Creek Improvement District—as a municipality—purchased the bonds.

How much of the billion they owe benefits Disney?

Sounds like this debt keeps building up and no one ever pays it off?

Does Disney have huge unpaid debt in California too?

No — this is bond debt. All municipalities have it.

[Anonymous]

This should make everyone afraid, regardless of party affiliation. A company disagrees with a politician on a [insert description here] issue and within weeks has a 50+ year deal revoked. That doesn't scare the crap out of you people???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This should make everyone afraid, regardless of party affiliation. A company disagrees with a politician on a [insert description here] issue and within weeks has a 50+ year deal revoked. That doesn't scare the crap out of you people???

not to people who worship authoritarians, no.

For people who support democracy, yes, this does scare them, but so did the 1/6 Insurrection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This should make everyone afraid, regardless of party affiliation. A company disagrees with a politician on a [insert description here] issue and within weeks has a 50+ year deal revoked. That doesn't scare the crap out of you people???

+1 This is a long but really good piece running down the speed of this and all the potential ramifications. The bill sponsor didn’t speak to Disney or any local or county officials before drafting it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Disney has had sweetheart deals in Florida for decades beginning when they came in the 1960's and bought up thousands of acres of orange groves for very little money per acre under a shell company so to pay very, very, little for the land. Disney did not want to buy land under the Disney name as the price per acre for the orange groves would sky rocket.

Desantis' move is good for the State of Florida and for Floridians.

Wtf are you going on about? You make no sense. Land in center Florida in 1960’s was very cheap because there was nothing there- no roads, no people, no airport, etc.

+1. based on what I read Disney did not exactly buy prime agricultural land, but a swampy area in the middle of Florida with nothing in it. the deal was apparenty partly needed because the local municipaliites did not have money for infrastructures so Disney assumed the costs of that too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This should make everyone afraid, regardless of party affiliation. A company disagrees with a politician on a [insert description here] issue and within weeks has a 50+ year deal revoked. That doesn't scare the crap out of you people???

So now you are ok with big companies getting tax breaks? Everyone was all for taxing them before. Which is it? Companies need to pay their fair share, or the breaks are good?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This should make everyone afraid, regardless of party affiliation. A company disagrees with a politician on a [insert description here] issue and within weeks has a 50+ year deal revoked. That doesn't scare the crap out of you people???

So now you are ok with big companies getting tax breaks? Everyone was all for taxing them before. Which is it? Companies need to pay their fair share, or the breaks are good?

Please read the article linked above so you know what you’re talking about.