Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

Teens still tell gay jokes and avoid gay things. Society has come a long way but teens still have to be incredibly strong and self confident to come out to their peers. The issue isn't weather a teen who is strong enough and confident enough to come out will still be a ts fan; what's at stake for ts is the vast, VAST majority of teens who aren't sure who they are yet and don't want to be seen as gay, whether they are or not, so won't openly be a lesbian singer's fan. So, like, 99% of teens.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

If that were true wouldn't there be someone filling that niche? It's cool for a fringe group, but not mainstream.

Billie Eilish, Miley Cyrus, Halsey, Janelle Monae…

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: where are people getting that she’s gay or bi? Is it just that she appears to have zero chemistry with any of the famous guys she’s dated, or what?

LOL well there's that. Also her most passionate songs are all about heartbreak over her friendships, not romance. Her romantic songs are flat.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: where are people getting that she’s gay or bi? Is it just that she appears to have zero chemistry with any of the famous guys she’s dated, or what?

People have speculated and she’s never denied it. But why would she? Her actions—dating men exclusively—prove she’s straight. Denying gay rumors in an interview implies there is something wrong with being gay and she needs to correct the record. That’s why she says nothing!

She has denied it - both in her behavior (dating only men) and in the 1989TV liner notes:

When I was 24 I sat in a backstage dressing room in London, buzzing with anticipation. My backup singers and bandmates gathered around me in a scattered circle. Scissors emerged and I watched in the mirror as my locks of long curly hair fell in piles on the floor. There I was in my plaid button down shirt, grinning sheepishly as my tour mates and friends cheered on my haircut. This simple thing that everyone does. But I had a secret. For me, it was more than a change of hairstyle. When I was 24, I decided to completely reinvent myself.

How does a person reinvent herself, you ask? In any way I could think of. Musically, geographically, aesthetically, behaviorally, motivationally ... and I did so joyfully. The curiosity I had felt the first murmurs of while making “Red” had amplified into a pulsing heartbeat of restlessness in my ears. The risks I took when I toyed with pop sounds and sensibilities on “Red”? I wanted to push it further. The sense of freedom I felt when traveling to big bustling cities? I wanted to live in one. The voices that had begun to shame me in new ways for dating like a normal young woman? I wanted to silence them.

You see — in the years preceding this, I had become the target of slut shaming — the intensity and relentlessness of which would be criticized and called out if it happened today. The jokes about my amount of boyfriends. The trivialization of my songwriting as if it were a predatory act of a boy crazy psychopath. The media co-signing of this narrative. I had to make it stop because it was starting to really hurt.

It became clear to me that for me there was no such thing as casual dating, or even having a male friend who you platonically hang out with. If I was seen with him, it was assumed I was sleeping with him. And so I swore off hanging out with guys, dating, flirting or anything that could be weaponized against me by a culture that claimed to believe in liberating women but consistently treated me with the harsh moral codes of the Victorian Era.

Being a consummate optimist, I assumed I could fix this if I simply changed my behavior. I swore off dating and decided to focus only on myself, my music, my growth, and my female friendships. If I only hung out with my female friends, people couldn’t sensationalize or sexualize that — right? I would learn later on that people could and people would.

But none of that mattered then because I had a plan and I had a demeanor as trusting as a basket of golden retriever puppies. I had the keys to my own apartment in New York and I had new melodies bursting from my imagination. I had Max Martin and Shellback who were happy to help me explore this new sonic landscape I was enamored with. I had a new friend named Jack Antonoff who had made some cool tracks in his apartment. I had the idea that the album would be called "1989," and we would reference big 80's synths and write sky high choruses. I had sublime, inexplicable faith and I ran right toward it. In high heels and a crop top.

There was so much that I didn’t know then, and looking back I see what a good thing that was. This time of my life was marked by right kind of naïveté, a hunger for adventure, and a sense of freedom I hadn’t tasted before. It turns out that the cocktail of naïveté, hunger for adventure and freedom can lead to some nasty hangovers, metaphorically speaking. Of course everyone had something to say. But they always will. I learned lessons, paid prices, and tried to ... don’t say it ... don’t say it ... I’m sorry, I have to say it ... shake it off.

I’ll always be so incredibly grateful for how you loved and embraced this album. You, who followed my zig zag creative choices and cheered on my risks and experiments. You, who heard the wink and humor in “Blank Space” and maybe even empathized with the pain behind the satire. You, who saw the seeds of allyship and advocating for equality in “Welcome to New York.” You, who knew that maybe a girl who surrounds herself with female friends in adulthood is making up for a lack of them in childhood (not starting a tyrannical hot girl cult). You, who saw that I reinvent myself for a million reasons, and that one of them is to try my very best to entertain you. You, who have had the grace to allow me the freedom to change.

I was born in 1989, reinvented for the first time in 2014, and a part of me was reclaimed in 2023 with the re-release of this album I love so dearly. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine the magic you would sprinkle on my life for so long.

This moment is a reflection of the woods we’ve wandered through and all this love between us still glowing in the darkest dark.

I present to you, with gratitude and wild wonder, my version of “1989.”

It’s been waiting for you.

This is PR crap, reading like it's a private letter to that one special person. "It's been waiting for you." She is using the neediness of teen girls and making stalkers out of her fans. Shameless PR. Shameless.

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Anonymous wrote:All the people wishing Taylor was gay make me laugh. They are so insistent on it.

Do you really think JA would have dated her for that long if she was gay? He clearly hates the attention.

Do you know what a beard is?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people still think it's a "PR relationship." They spent Christmas, New Year's and the week in between together - her whole family even went to Kansas City for Christmas. His whole family would have to be in on it, including his parents, brother, SIL and kids. Brittany and Pat Mahomes would have to be in on it, as Taylor spends her free time with them sometimes.

Taylor has gone to almost all of his games - all for PR??? She's worth a billion dollars, was Time Person of the Year, is up for 3 million Grammys - what more "PR" does she need? And why would she have wasted the last 6 months in a fake relationship with Travis when she could have used her time off really having fun?

Please be smarter people. I'm embarrassed for you.

This! Whether they are serious or having a fun fling, it's a relationship.

She's a billionaire who does not need to be spending her vacation in KC. She doesn't need to hang on Brittany Mahomes to get attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: where are people getting that she’s gay or bi? Is it just that she appears to have zero chemistry with any of the famous guys she’s dated, or what?

People have speculated and she’s never denied it. But why would she? Her actions—dating men exclusively—prove she’s straight. Denying gay rumors in an interview implies there is something wrong with being gay and she needs to correct the record. That’s why she says nothing!

She has denied it - both in her behavior (dating only men) and in the 1989TV liner notes:

When I was 24 I sat in a backstage dressing room in London, buzzing with anticipation. My backup singers and bandmates gathered around me in a scattered circle. Scissors emerged and I watched in the mirror as my locks of long curly hair fell in piles on the floor. There I was in my plaid button down shirt, grinning sheepishly as my tour mates and friends cheered on my haircut. This simple thing that everyone does. But I had a secret. For me, it was more than a change of hairstyle. When I was 24, I decided to completely reinvent myself.

How does a person reinvent herself, you ask? In any way I could think of. Musically, geographically, aesthetically, behaviorally, motivationally ... and I did so joyfully. The curiosity I had felt the first murmurs of while making “Red” had amplified into a pulsing heartbeat of restlessness in my ears. The risks I took when I toyed with pop sounds and sensibilities on “Red”? I wanted to push it further. The sense of freedom I felt when traveling to big bustling cities? I wanted to live in one. The voices that had begun to shame me in new ways for dating like a normal young woman? I wanted to silence them.

You see — in the years preceding this, I had become the target of slut shaming — the intensity and relentlessness of which would be criticized and called out if it happened today. The jokes about my amount of boyfriends. The trivialization of my songwriting as if it were a predatory act of a boy crazy psychopath. The media co-signing of this narrative. I had to make it stop because it was starting to really hurt.

It became clear to me that for me there was no such thing as casual dating, or even having a male friend who you platonically hang out with. If I was seen with him, it was assumed I was sleeping with him. And so I swore off hanging out with guys, dating, flirting or anything that could be weaponized against me by a culture that claimed to believe in liberating women but consistently treated me with the harsh moral codes of the Victorian Era.

Being a consummate optimist, I assumed I could fix this if I simply changed my behavior. I swore off dating and decided to focus only on myself, my music, my growth, and my female friendships. If I only hung out with my female friends, people couldn’t sensationalize or sexualize that — right? I would learn later on that people could and people would.

But none of that mattered then because I had a plan and I had a demeanor as trusting as a basket of golden retriever puppies. I had the keys to my own apartment in New York and I had new melodies bursting from my imagination. I had Max Martin and Shellback who were happy to help me explore this new sonic landscape I was enamored with. I had a new friend named Jack Antonoff who had made some cool tracks in his apartment. I had the idea that the album would be called "1989," and we would reference big 80's synths and write sky high choruses. I had sublime, inexplicable faith and I ran right toward it. In high heels and a crop top.

There was so much that I didn’t know then, and looking back I see what a good thing that was. This time of my life was marked by right kind of naïveté, a hunger for adventure, and a sense of freedom I hadn’t tasted before. It turns out that the cocktail of naïveté, hunger for adventure and freedom can lead to some nasty hangovers, metaphorically speaking. Of course everyone had something to say. But they always will. I learned lessons, paid prices, and tried to ... don’t say it ... don’t say it ... I’m sorry, I have to say it ... shake it off.

I’ll always be so incredibly grateful for how you loved and embraced this album. You, who followed my zig zag creative choices and cheered on my risks and experiments. You, who heard the wink and humor in “Blank Space” and maybe even empathized with the pain behind the satire. You, who saw the seeds of allyship and advocating for equality in “Welcome to New York.” You, who knew that maybe a girl who surrounds herself with female friends in adulthood is making up for a lack of them in childhood (not starting a tyrannical hot girl cult). You, who saw that I reinvent myself for a million reasons, and that one of them is to try my very best to entertain you. You, who have had the grace to allow me the freedom to change.

I was born in 1989, reinvented for the first time in 2014, and a part of me was reclaimed in 2023 with the re-release of this album I love so dearly. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine the magic you would sprinkle on my life for so long.

This moment is a reflection of the woods we’ve wandered through and all this love between us still glowing in the darkest dark.

I present to you, with gratitude and wild wonder, my version of “1989.”

It’s been waiting for you.

This is PR crap, reading like it's a private letter to that one special person. "It's been waiting for you." She is using the neediness of teen girls and making stalkers out of her fans. Shameless PR. Shameless.

+1 gives me the creeps. She is grooming them, but doing it to make money rather than more nefarious purposes, so the behavior goes unnoticed to many. It is the same creep tactics though.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

Teens still tell gay jokes and avoid gay things. Society has come a long way but teens still have to be incredibly strong and self confident to come out to their peers. The issue isn't weather a teen who is strong enough and confident enough to come out will still be a ts fan; what's at stake for ts is the vast, VAST majority of teens who aren't sure who they are yet and don't want to be seen as gay, whether they are or not, so won't openly be a lesbian singer's fan. So, like, 99% of teens.

Maybe teens with $hitty parents tell gay jokes…

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

If that were true wouldn't there be someone filling that niche? It's cool for a fringe group, but not mainstream.

I find it hard to believe this is a serious question. I’m not trying to be mean, but there are so many examples… Miley Cyrus openly talks about how she is a pansexual and has dated women, Billie Eilish talked about her fluid sexuality, Renee Rap is huge right now, and she is bisexual and recently she called herself a lesbian. Selena Gomez’s character in only murders in the building began dating a woman last season.

There are tons of examples…..millennials and gen Z do not care.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

If that were true wouldn't there be someone filling that niche? It's cool for a fringe group, but not mainstream.

I find it hard to believe this is a serious question. I’m not trying to be mean, but there are so many examples… Miley Cyrus openly talks about how she is a pansexual and has dated women, Billie Eilish talked about her fluid sexuality, Renee Rap is huge right now, and she is bisexual and recently she called herself a lesbian. Selena Gomez’s character in only murders in the building began dating a woman last season.

There are tons of examples…..millennials and gen Z do not care.

Parents who are TS fans aren’t spending thousands to take their daughters to see a pansexual role model. The kids may not care, but the kids are not spending the money. Taylor’s Dad understands this as does Taylor. Whatever her orientation may be, it is not financially advantageous to cut off the legions of moms who see Taylor as a sexual role model for their daughter’s. (Meaning she only publicly discloses sexual experiences in a committed heterosexual relationship.) Just as a good girl should!

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Anonymous wrote:All the people wishing Taylor was gay make me laugh. They are so insistent on it.

Do you really think JA would have dated her for that long if she was gay? He clearly hates the attention.

Do you know what a beard is?

NP but no one cares about Joe Alwyn’s sexuality and he doesn’t want attention. I just don’t think one of the most famous singers in the world would beard for a reclusive c list actor.

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Anonymous wrote:All the people wishing Taylor was gay make me laugh. They are so insistent on it.

Do you really think JA would have dated her for that long if she was gay? He clearly hates the attention.

Do you know what a beard is?

NP but no one cares about Joe Alwyn’s sexuality and he doesn’t want attention. I just don’t think one of the most famous singers in the world would beard for a reclusive c list actor.

Of course not. It would have to be mutual to be worthwhile.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

If that were true wouldn't there be someone filling that niche? It's cool for a fringe group, but not mainstream.

Billie Eilish, Miley Cyrus, Halsey, Janelle Monae…

And look at all the opening acts for Taylor’s tour that are openly LGBTQ: Phoebe Bridgers, Girl in Red, MUNA. The teens are 100% ok with worshiping openly bi artists.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

If that were true wouldn't there be someone filling that niche? It's cool for a fringe group, but not mainstream.

Billie Eilish, Miley Cyrus, Halsey, Janelle Monae…

And look at all the opening acts for Taylor’s tour that are openly LGBTQ: Phoebe Bridgers, Girl in Red, MUNA. The teens are 100% ok with worshiping openly bi artists.

So a lot of her opening acts are gay. I say again, hmmm....

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Anonymous wrote:Travis wants to be the next The Rock after football; no way he dumps her in a manner that will incur the wrath of the swifties.

Has he actually said this? That will never happen.

He says he wants to be "as famous as The Rock" and hired agents to make that happen before he got involved with TS. Just a coincidence, surely...

That's probably why they got involved. Have your agent call my agent. They are like an old fashioned hollywood "couple" that the studios put together for PR. They have ZERO chemistry. On the other hand, Taylor Swift sure does a lot of hugging and jumping up a down with her "best friend" while watching her "boyfriend" play football. They are beards.

This is crazy. In what way would this benefit TS? If she was gay, she’d be openly gay. Why do you over analyze people like this and not take them at face value?

Well her target audience is teen girls and there is no more homophobic crowd than teens. Do you think all those girls would be worshiping an open lesbian the way they do TS? Doubtful.

You clearly don’t have a teenager. It is pretty cool to be bi these days.

Teens still tell gay jokes and avoid gay things. Society has come a long way but teens still have to be incredibly strong and self confident to come out to their peers. The issue isn't weather a teen who is strong enough and confident enough to come out will still be a ts fan; what's at stake for ts is the vast, VAST majority of teens who aren't sure who they are yet and don't want to be seen as gay, whether they are or not, so won't openly be a lesbian singer's fan. So, like, 99% of teens.

DP. A full 28% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ. (At least those 18-25) 28%! I don’t know what the number is for teens, but it’s not 1%.