| What's the salary for a full time coach these days? Is it $150k plus like Loudoun? |
I need to get into coaching |
| Good grief, I don't think it is anywhere near that is it??? Or am I crazy and picked the wrong line of work? |
Not for coaches, no. But the administration there makes significantly more. |
Loudoun Soccer is a non-profit and their tax filings are public record, the salaries for their Key Employees and Officers (Director and above) are listed for all to view |
10K per team. |
And when you go look, you'll see I was correct. |
I'm taking my kid to FCV. I was at the tryouts. I've spoken to the coaches. I'm not worried about the fields. You post sounds more like you didn't leave the relationship on good terms and instead make yourself feel better by tearing down you Ex rather than turning a new leaf and looking forward. I think petty comes to mind when I read your posts. Signed, Not Adam |
Curious how do you have 13 starters leave a program. Was the 2008 team good because they had too many kids on the field? |
Where do you see this? |
No club is perfect. I can't tell you how many games I have been at over the years where if I based my future tryout decisions on the coach who is on the other sidelines that I would never consider any other club. It seems to me that irrespective of where FCV may be at this time there are at least a few quality coaches in their ranks. I know a couple personally because my kid played for them in years past and as it stands now my kid has committed to playing for one of the newer FCV coaches who has been at least mentioned in this thread as potentially one who has their act together. When we met the new FCV coach he left us with a good impression, which is really all that matters since I don't expect to have much exposure to many of the other coaches and FCV staff once the season gets going. So it seems to me that unless your son is playing for AB, the situation may not be as bad as some may suggest. To get better as a player I believe you need good coaching, good competition, and good teammates. Regardless of the club I am confident in the first two criterion on that list based on our choice to play for FCV. I don't know who my kid's teammates will be entirely, but playing on a team that is often outclassed can sometimes allow individual players to distinguish themselves on the field. For a parent of a player who hasn't ever tried out for a national team, one of the biggest obstacles to breaking into a national team as an older player is having an opportunity to develop familiarity with coaches on both sidelines who coach at this level. My player plays against many national ECNL and GA players who play for many of the big clubs mentioned on this board. I am not concerned about my player's ability to compete and benefit from exposure to playing against a high level of competition. So while FCV may be going through some changes, and maybe the club has some characters who may not be liked by many on this board (e.g., AB), there are potentially some opportunities for families who given their own circumstances FCV may be an opportunity worth pursuing. |
The most recent 990 provided by Loudoun Youth Soccer Association is from 2020. https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/541076172_202005_990_2022080320271091.pdf Interestingly, this filing (around page 7 of the PDF) indicates that most of the primary organizational officers do not get paid. This doesn't go down to the coaching level, probably because of how clubs pay based on the number of teams coached. I've heard that a coach can make $10-$15K per team per season. That level of individual employment contract is not likely to trigger 990 disclosures. I think this link lands you on the 990 search page for the IRS. https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/ Here are a few EIN numbers for different clubs in NOVA: Arlington Soccer Association: 23-7284150 McLean Youth Soccer Association: 80-0015698 Loudoun Youth Soccer Association: 54-1076172 Vienna Youth Soccer: 54-1004923 |
lol - of all the stats in that diatribe/post, that was the one that caught my attention as well. A lot of players moved from FCV to VRSC, but it doesn’t seem they got as high of a percentage as I thought they would, in particular with the older age groups. |
Agreed, I think VRSC was thinking they'd get 80%/90% and they probably got closer to 60% |
I've been saying this all along, we weren't willing to give it a go but doesn't mean that others arent' willing. Next year or two will probably be a down year compared against normal FCV standards, but the new coaches seem pretty good and have their act together. It's a complete clean slate from the coaching staff, so that will appeal to a lot of families that have been stuck at their current club. I don't see any conference champions in the near future but that doesn't mean they won't eventually get back there. |