King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree it’s a deal. Do you really think they can get it ready to be a fully functional FCPS HS in 8-10 months? I think the timeline would need to be 2-3 years.

They "could." "Will they?" is the question. Might not have stadium, but they could play elsewhere for a year when other school teams are at "away" games. Not ideal, but doable.

The adaptation of the school interior should be relatively easy. Again, adaptations are likely and possible. And, there are two additional buildings across the street. The street is not a "through" street, so it should not be difficult to adapt use.

I suggested earlier that FCPS might consider immediately using one of the extra buildings as an "overflow" for Coates. They could put an AP there and one or two grades. Again, not ideal, but, perhaps better than the situation currently at Coates which already has too many trailers--and they are planning to add more.

The best solution for Coates, though, is adjustments to the boundary. Take out the kids across the DTR to a Herndon school and send others to Floris.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Word on the street is there are several high level people at gatehouse that have major
concerns about the KAA site and it’s feasibility to fulfill the needs of an FCPS HS. Lack of outdoor space and a need to expand the indoor space are major issues that will cost lots of money and time to address. If it becomes a standard HS they will need a couple years to get it ready.

Get with the program. Families hoping to benefit from the new school have told us taxpayers that we’re not allowed to question the school’s costs, and they remind you that we are not owed any accountability from Sniveling Sandy’s school board. They demand no oversight on the $150mm purchase.

How dare you!!!

Check out the FY26 -30 CIP.

$23,500 million for site acquisition--already funded
almost $500 million for building

Centreville expansion/renovation: almost $300 million

Here are answers to questions if you look at the information with a common sense lens:

So, for $150 million, FCPS gets extensive land, an already built school and two additional buildings. It is in the location where it is needed. And, it comes furnished.
Sure, some adjustments will be needed, but it is a "deal" and you know it.

High school renovation for Falls Church is 123 million. And, they did not need to purchase land. Doubt it includes furnishings.

yes land was funded. not building. so where are they getting the other 125 million? no expansion at centreville? the SB should be saying what will be deferred with this purchase

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Word on the street is there are several high level people at gatehouse that have major
concerns about the KAA site and it’s feasibility to fulfill the needs of an FCPS HS. Lack of outdoor space and a need to expand the indoor space are major issues that will cost lots of money and time to address. If it becomes a standard HS they will need a couple years to get it ready.

Get with the program. Families hoping to benefit from the new school have told us taxpayers that we’re not allowed to question the school’s costs, and they remind you that we are not owed any accountability from Sniveling Sandy’s school board. They demand no oversight on the $150mm purchase.

How dare you!!!

Check out the FY26 -30 CIP.

$23,500 million for site acquisition--already funded
almost $500 million for building

Centreville expansion/renovation: almost $300 million

Here are answers to questions if you look at the information with a common sense lens:

So, for $150 million, FCPS gets extensive land, an already built school and two additional buildings. It is in the location where it is needed. And, it comes furnished.
Sure, some adjustments will be needed, but it is a "deal" and you know it.

High school renovation for Falls Church is 123 million. And, they did not need to purchase land. Doubt it includes furnishings.

At this point, it’s obvious that you are intentionally ignoring the point. We want actual details about how the school will be used, and what we give up by using that $150 million on the school. I don’t give a flying f that the CIP projected the ten year costs would exceed the cost to buy the school, I care that we are spending $150 million that fcps hadn’t budgeted for. What is being sacrificed for the school? Are we giving the Saudis something in return?

You continually say, it’s such a bargain! And that may be, but the school board should show its damn work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Word on the street is there are several high level people at gatehouse that have major
concerns about the KAA site and it’s feasibility to fulfill the needs of an FCPS HS. Lack of outdoor space and a need to expand the indoor space are major issues that will cost lots of money and time to address. If it becomes a standard HS they will need a couple years to get it ready.

Get with the program. Families hoping to benefit from the new school have told us taxpayers that we’re not allowed to question the school’s costs, and they remind you that we are not owed any accountability from Sniveling Sandy’s school board. They demand no oversight on the $150mm purchase.

How dare you!!!

Check out the FY26 -30 CIP.

$23,500 million for site acquisition--already funded
almost $500 million for building

Centreville expansion/renovation: almost $300 million

Here are answers to questions if you look at the information with a common sense lens:

So, for $150 million, FCPS gets extensive land, an already built school and two additional buildings. It is in the location where it is needed. And, it comes furnished.
Sure, some adjustments will be needed, but it is a "deal" and you know it.

High school renovation for Falls Church is 123 million. And, they did not need to purchase land. Doubt it includes furnishings.

yes land was funded. not building. so where are they getting the other 125 million? no expansion at centreville? the SB should be saying what will be deferred with this purchase

Exactly. That poster just wants us to ignore good governance by continuing to claim that is such a tremendous deal, trust her. Being careless with money is what got us tight budgets in the first place. No thank you.

[Anonymous]

i also find it hard to believe that they will take 3 schools from westfield and only put one school from centreville in. the justification of purchasing KAA was to relieve overcrowding at chantilly especially and centreville. if mcnair is moved that’s like 600 kids. not sure the split between westfield and herndon for coates. let’s say 70% is at westfield that another 330ish kids. again don’t know the floris split. let’s say half go to westfield half to south lakes that’s another 200. that’s 1130 kids leaving westfield. that’s a huge drop in enrollment. i bet they move 2 schools in.

[Anonymous]

No one has any idea which areas will be zoned for kaa.

Everyone is just speculating.

[Anonymous]

There is almost certainly horse trading behind the scenes with SB members and FCPS admin on both the KAA boundaries and the upcoming thru maps.

When things come out that don't make logical sense, secret "you scratch my back" deals will be the answer.

[Anonymous]

Wouldn’t it be easiest to take everyone who goes to Carson and put them at KAA. Then balance out the rest of the HS by making a couple boundary shifts. Looking at some of the lower grade numbers in Cub Run and Virginia run it appears those neighborhoods are starting to flip and you get families with kids are coming.

[Anonymous]

carson has 1350 kids. i don’t think KAA can fit double that. are some kids AAP who would go to a different high school? i think so? i don’t know that area. but i don’t think it’s that easy to just take carson and move to KAA. i also think taking carson would leave westfield way under enrolled

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i also find it hard to believe that they will take 3 schools from westfield and only put one school from centreville in. the justification of purchasing KAA was to relieve overcrowding at chantilly especially and centreville. if mcnair is moved that’s like 600 kids. not sure the split between westfield and herndon for coates. let’s say 70% is at westfield that another 330ish kids. again don’t know the floris split. let’s say half go to westfield half to south lakes that’s another 200. that’s 1130 kids leaving westfield. that’s a huge drop in enrollment. i bet they move 2 schools in.

You have about ten wild guesses you wrote out as facts here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:carson has 1350 kids. i don’t think KAA can fit double that. are some kids AAP who would go to a different high school? i think so? i don’t know that area. but i don’t think it’s that easy to just take carson and move to KAA. i also think taking carson would leave westfield way under enrolled

You don't know the area at all, so why comment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t it be easiest to take everyone who goes to Carson and put them at KAA. Then balance out the rest of the HS by making a couple boundary shifts. Looking at some of the lower grade numbers in Cub Run and Virginia run it appears those neighborhoods are starting to flip and you get families with kids are coming.

They don't have AAP so kids leave to go to centers after 2nd. Hence bigger enrollments in k-2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:carson has 1350 kids. i don’t think KAA can fit double that. are some kids AAP who would go to a different high school? i think so? i don’t know that area. but i don’t think it’s that easy to just take carson and move to KAA. i also think taking carson would leave westfield way under enrolled

You have like 100 wrong facts in about 5 sentences. Impressive even for here.

[Anonymous]

I think they will try to balance the numbers of kids pulled out to KAA between the local schools (CHS, Oakton, Westfield, SLHS) I don't think they will pull more than one ES out of any of the other high schools. Its too disruptive and creates too many domino problems.

[Anonymous]

Agree-they can pull a few hundred kids out iof 4 different high schools without having to move anyone else into those schools. People want to be moved to the amazing beautiful new school. People don't usually want their kids moved from current school to some other school.