Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen one or two racist posts on this thread. Not sure what PP is talking about. Most of the people on here are debating politely. There are others that seem to pound their opinions down everyone’s throats.

I do think we can make a distinction between MM and other woman posting about issues with their in-laws. MM has claimed she wants privacy on one hand but is constantly dropping news stories, staged photos and videos. Worse, it’s clear that she feeds personal information to the media, including the hagiography, finding freedom (laughable title, but whatever).

Her primary complaint, as far as I can make it, is that she wants to control the media narrative. Even the bizarre way they “left” the family in the UK - through a passive aggressive blog post, smacked of trying to tell the story before working with the queen and Charles to deliver a narrative all parties had agreed to.

The fact that she airs her dirty laundry in public makes her open to critique. Sorry, that’s the nature of being a “celeb”

DP. Jeff has talked about how he has to devote more time to MM threads because of the racist posts he regularly removes. You may have only seen one or two, but clearly Jeff sees a lot more than that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

I would normally report this to Jeff for being so self-indulgently OFF Topic but I don't want to ruin his Sunday morning.

This is a Megan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates thread people, not a confessional box for your family histories.

+1. Also, SO much empathy for (white, rich, privileged) Harry, none whatsoever for any struggles (black/bi-racial, middle-class) Meghan had. Interesting...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's like Hillaria Baldwin. I don't like either woman they're both narcissists. But amazing to watch them manipulate others from afar.

Yep two talentless halfwits only famous because of the rich famous guy they married in their 30s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen one or two racist posts on this thread. Not sure what PP is talking about. Most of the people on here are debating politely. There are others that seem to pound their opinions down everyone’s throats.

I do think we can make a distinction between MM and other woman posting about issues with their in-laws. MM has claimed she wants privacy on one hand but is constantly dropping news stories, staged photos and videos. Worse, it’s clear that she feeds personal information to the media, including the hagiography, finding freedom (laughable title, but whatever).

Her primary complaint, as far as I can make it, is that she wants to control the media narrative. Even the bizarre way they “left” the family in the UK - through a passive aggressive blog post, smacked of trying to tell the story before working with the queen and Charles to deliver a narrative all parties had agreed to.

The fact that she airs her dirty laundry in public makes her open to critique. Sorry, that’s the nature of being a “celeb”

DP. Jeff has talked about how he has to devote more time to MM threads because of the racist posts he regularly removes. You may have only seen one or two, but clearly Jeff sees a lot more than that.

How do you know what Jeff sees? You seem to be an expert on the subject.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

I would normally report this to Jeff for being so self-indulgently OFF Topic but I don't want to ruin his Sunday morning.

This is a Megan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates thread people, not a confessional box for your family histories.

+1. Also, SO much empathy for (white, rich, privileged) Harry, none whatsoever for any struggles (black/bi-racial, middle-class) Meghan had. Interesting...

Yes. Yes, I do have quite a bit of empathy for a person whose mum died when he was 12. That is a life-changing event with effects that remain for years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen one or two racist posts on this thread. Not sure what PP is talking about. Most of the people on here are debating politely. There are others that seem to pound their opinions down everyone’s throats.

I do think we can make a distinction between MM and other woman posting about issues with their in-laws. MM has claimed she wants privacy on one hand but is constantly dropping news stories, staged photos and videos. Worse, it’s clear that she feeds personal information to the media, including the hagiography, finding freedom (laughable title, but whatever).

Her primary complaint, as far as I can make it, is that she wants to control the media narrative. Even the bizarre way they “left” the family in the UK - through a passive aggressive blog post, smacked of trying to tell the story before working with the queen and Charles to deliver a narrative all parties had agreed to.

The fact that she airs her dirty laundry in public makes her open to critique. Sorry, that’s the nature of being a “celeb”

DP. Jeff has talked about how he has to devote more time to MM threads because of the racist posts he regularly removes. You may have only seen one or two, but clearly Jeff sees a lot more than that.

How do you know what Jeff sees? You seem to be an expert on the subject.

Uh, from reading his posts in Website Feedback about it? You could read the exact same posts if you wanted.

[Anonymous]

I feel empathy for MM coming from a divorced home - but other than that she seems to have had a charmed childhood- private schools paid by her dad, dad who encouraged her and supported her, having an uncle pull strings to get her an internship with a US embassy abroad... in fact there seems to be a pattern of white men in her life that have really helped her out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Rather than take the enormous privilege she has and channel it into focused work to help others (she doesn't have to, but this is what she has claimed to want for years) she uses her limited platform to continue painting herself as a victim because she is black, a woman, an American, older, etc., etc.

Deserved or misplaced as the judgment of her may be there is no question that her behavior is coming off as distasteful to a lot of people but she keeps pushing on. Now if she were still effective toward some goal worth supporting then I would say, Keep at it, Meghan, haters be damned! But there is nothing to really really around when it comes to her (or Harry). They have no clear message and although they don't technically need one if they were just living their lives, they are so insistent on being front and center... all the while reminding everyone how they aren't privileged or blessed.

It makes it harder to appreciate seeing them constantly pop up and criticize others.

I will say the miscarriage story is in a category of its own. We shouldn't react the same way as when she makes a surprise video appearance on America's got Talent, or whatever that was.

Well, she has a small child. She's probably overwhelmed and having a hard time adjusting to her new reality, just like most people when they have small kids. Time will tell. I bet she will do good things in the future. (In another thread she was also criticized for 'getting in with the mommy crowd in LA' -- uh, why wouldn't she do that? She's a new mommy.)

Oh please. She has enough money that having a small child is not a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen one or two racist posts on this thread. Not sure what PP is talking about. Most of the people on here are debating politely. There are others that seem to pound their opinions down everyone’s throats.

I do think we can make a distinction between MM and other woman posting about issues with their in-laws. MM has claimed she wants privacy on one hand but is constantly dropping news stories, staged photos and videos. Worse, it’s clear that she feeds personal information to the media, including the hagiography, finding freedom (laughable title, but whatever).

Her primary complaint, as far as I can make it, is that she wants to control the media narrative. Even the bizarre way they “left” the family in the UK - through a passive aggressive blog post, smacked of trying to tell the story before working with the queen and Charles to deliver a narrative all parties had agreed to.

The fact that she airs her dirty laundry in public makes her open to critique. Sorry, that’s the nature of being a “celeb”

That's because people report them and Jeff deletes them. There's an entire discussion taking place right now on the website feedback forum on this very subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only a handful of people the world over are in the same circumstances regarding their position in their families that MM and Harry are in. It really makes no sense to compare them to normal people and normal people's relationships to their families IMO.

Why? Are they not human with emotions, feelings, thoughts and insecurities like all humans. Or does wearing a crown make a person inhuman without fears, emotions, desires?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen one or two racist posts on this thread. Not sure what PP is talking about. Most of the people on here are debating politely. There are others that seem to pound their opinions down everyone’s throats.

I do think we can make a distinction between MM and other woman posting about issues with their in-laws. MM has claimed she wants privacy on one hand but is constantly dropping news stories, staged photos and videos. Worse, it’s clear that she feeds personal information to the media, including the hagiography, finding freedom (laughable title, but whatever).

Her primary complaint, as far as I can make it, is that she wants to control the media narrative. Even the bizarre way they “left” the family in the UK - through a passive aggressive blog post, smacked of trying to tell the story before working with the queen and Charles to deliver a narrative all parties had agreed to.

The fact that she airs her dirty laundry in public makes her open to critique. Sorry, that’s the nature of being a “celeb”

DP. Jeff has talked about how he has to devote more time to MM threads because of the racist posts he regularly removes. You may have only seen one or two, but clearly Jeff sees a lot more than that.

How do you know what Jeff sees? You seem to be an expert on the subject.

DP. Maybe you should read more than the entertainment forum. Anyway, this question of yours has been asked and answered multiple times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

I would normally report this to Jeff for being so self-indulgently OFF Topic but I don't want to ruin his Sunday morning.

This is a Megan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates thread people, not a confessional box for your family histories.

+1. Also, SO much empathy for (white, rich, privileged) Harry, none whatsoever for any struggles (black/bi-racial, middle-class) Meghan had. Interesting...

Yes. Yes, I do have quite a bit of empathy for a person whose mum died when he was 12. That is a life-changing event with effects that remain for years.

So is being betrayed by your own family on the world stage. That's also something on one can ever get over. Then to hear people say they feel sorry for MM's family because she cut them out -- bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel empathy for MM coming from a divorced home - but other than that she seems to have had a charmed childhood- private schools paid by her dad, dad who encouraged her and supported her, having an uncle pull strings to get her an internship with a US embassy abroad... in fact there seems to be a pattern of white men in her life that have really helped her out.

So what happened? Why the sudden public hatred her family showed her, once she got together with Harry? Here's a hint: they were always monsters, only no one knew them so no one was aware. MM was aware, because she knew them. That's why she tried to keep distance between them and Harry. And she was right, too. What kind of a father, sister or brother betrays a family in public like that? That's anathema to most parents. Can you imagine trying to SHOW people your own child's faults, to try to turn others against them? That's incomprehensible for most families. Those people didn't suddenly become monsters overnight; the were always like that. You just didn't know it, because you didn't know them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel empathy for MM coming from a divorced home - but other than that she seems to have had a charmed childhood- private schools paid by her dad, dad who encouraged her and supported her, having an uncle pull strings to get her an internship with a US embassy abroad... in fact there seems to be a pattern of white men in her life that have really helped her out.

So what happened? Why the sudden public hatred her family showed her, once she got together with Harry? Here's a hint: they were always monsters, only no one knew them so no one was aware. MM was aware, because she knew them. That's why she tried to keep distance between them and Harry. And she was right, too. What kind of a father, sister or brother betrays a family in public like that? That's anathema to most parents. Can you imagine trying to SHOW people your own child's faults, to try to turn others against them? That's incomprehensible for most families. Those people didn't suddenly become monsters overnight; the were always like that. You just didn't know it, because you didn't know them.

This is actually a thing. If you've gone into the Hillbilly Elegy thread this is exactly what people try to do. They don't want people to escape, leave, find a better life, its described as crabs fighting each other and puling each other down so that nobody wins. They simply don't want someone to do better or be better. It's a destructive mindset designed to keep everyone in their place.

[Anonymous]

What did her dad do exactly? Get suckered into taking staged photos of him getting ready for their wedding? Stil not understanding why that’s an unforgivable offense given that he was her main suport system, bth financially and emotionally ... on the tig she couldn’t stop talking about how great her “daddy” was.