Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/boone/comments/1qfj3op/former_boone_classmate_of_greg_bovino_posts_an/

Former Boone classmate of Greg Bovino posts an interesting account of his time at Watauga High

The get caught jerking it to a Nat Geo in a stairwell was epic.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely heart wrenching. A moment of silence where Pretti worked. This needs to be on the news everywhere:



They murdered an innocent civilian. Domestic terrorist? GMAFB. Who would celebrate a terrorist like that?

The political left who wants more martyrs like George Floyd, that's who. It is incredibly easy to not get killed by ICE - 99.9999999999% of Minnesotans have managed that. But if you take a loaded gun into a volatile situation where a mob has been on the brink of violence for days, you are rolling the dice that you will be that martyr and get the hero's treatment from the left like this guy is getting. Rest in peace.

The political agitation on the left is MAGA's wet dream. The administration wants to cause strife and conflict and chaos so they can impose the Insurrection Act, suspend civil liberties and continue in power without constitutional niceties like presidential term limits and elections. This is really they're only play as the know, to borrow the words of your fearless Orange Leader, the days of reckoning and retribution are coming.

I don't think the Insurrection Act means that the states can't hold their elections.

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?

He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)

Liberals are actually winning big here with gun control talking points. Guy probably would be alive today if he hadn't had a gun.

Guy would definitely be alive today if ICE weren't poorly trained trigger happy monsters.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely heart wrenching. A moment of silence where Pretti worked. This needs to be on the news everywhere:



They murdered an innocent civilian. Domestic terrorist? GMAFB. Who would celebrate a terrorist like that?

The political left who wants more martyrs like George Floyd, that's who. It is incredibly easy to not get killed by ICE - 99.9999999999% of Minnesotans have managed that. But if you take a loaded gun into a volatile situation where a mob has been on the brink of violence for days, you are rolling the dice that you will be that martyr and get the hero's treatment from the left like this guy is getting. Rest in peace.

Wow, it’s really impressive to fit so many untruths in so few words.

Take your bootlicking and authority groveling and pedo simping to another country.

And didn't say anything about Kyle Rittenhouse who became their national hero.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Kristi Noem is being slowly sidelined as Trump has now sent Tom Homan to Minnesota to take over. Homan and Noem have been at odds because Homan has wanted to go after dangerous criminals who are in the country illegally, and Kristi wanted scorch earth for television and internet ratings.

This deserves a thread of its own. Looks like Noem is being sidelined by Trump for now.

U.S. President Donald Trump said he is sending his "tough but fair" border czar Tom Homan to Minnesota. The move, which will see Homan report back directly to Trump, cuts across DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, who is under increasing pressure after deadly clashes between federal immigration enforcement officers and protesters. Homan is seen as a potential rival to Noem for her role. "He has not been involved in that area, but knows and likes many of the people there," Trump said in a post on Truth Social. "Tom is tough but fair, and will report directly to me." The White House said Homan will manage ICE operations in Minnesota.

Donald Trump Sends Kristi Noem Rival Tom Homan to Minnesota
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-kristi-noem-tom-homan-dhs-11417120

Too late, the damage is done. Steven Miller got his taste of blood and he's not stopping.

So,what do you think will happen when someone — possibly Vance — points out to Trump that a major reason that his approval ratings are tanking both domestically and internationally is because he’s trying to implement the fantasies of the unelected and unelectable Miller? If it’s a toss up between facing his own narcissistic injuries and tossing the too-big-for his britches Miller, I can see Miller getting tossed and publicly blamed for everything about Trump that his polls dislike.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Kristi Noem is being slowly sidelined as Trump has now sent Tom Homan to Minnesota to take over. Homan and Noem have been at odds because Homan has wanted to go after dangerous criminals who are in the country illegally, and Kristi wanted scorch earth for television and internet ratings.

This deserves a thread of its own. Looks like Noem is being sidelined by Trump for now.

U.S. President Donald Trump said he is sending his "tough but fair" border czar Tom Homan to Minnesota. The move, which will see Homan report back directly to Trump, cuts across DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, who is under increasing pressure after deadly clashes between federal immigration enforcement officers and protesters. Homan is seen as a potential rival to Noem for her role. "He has not been involved in that area, but knows and likes many of the people there," Trump said in a post on Truth Social. "Tom is tough but fair, and will report directly to me." The White House said Homan will manage ICE operations in Minnesota.

Donald Trump Sends Kristi Noem Rival Tom Homan to Minnesota
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-kristi-noem-tom-homan-dhs-11417120

Too late, the damage is done. Steven Miller got his taste of blood and he's not stopping.

So,what do you think will happen when someone — possibly Vance — points out to Trump that a major reason that his approval ratings are tanking both domestically and internationally is because he’s trying to implement the fantasies of the unelected and unelectable Miller? If it’s a toss up between facing his own narcissistic injuries and tossing the too-big-for his britches Miller, I can see Miller getting tossed and publicly blamed for everything about Trump that his polls dislike.

You think they are going to dump him like Elon?

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Anonymous wrote:Lol…KKKaroline has received the new talking points…

I’ve never seen her answer so deferentially. They know they’re done.

Yep

Wow, all the snark is gone. She’s so subdued, almost cowed for once. I don’t think even she buys the lies.

Wow, such a change. They don't want to see Americans killed. That tells you how murderous their intent was, and probably still is. Assume they're lying.

I guess they'll stick to killing Americans through lack of healthcare, shuttering cancer research for kids, adding pfas to our water supply, and stopping the polio vaccine, among other lethal policies.

They were fine seeing Renee Good killed. And they'd be fine seeing any American killed. They don't like that they were caught looking like sadists and no one is buying the lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/boone/comments/1qfj3op/former_boone_classmate_of_greg_bovino_posts_an/

Former Boone classmate of Greg Bovino posts an interesting account of his time at Watauga High

"the Watauga High yearbook has you listed as “Most Likely to Shit His Pants in Public?”"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/boone/comments/1qfj3op/former_boone_classmate_of_greg_bovino_posts_an/

Former Boone classmate of Greg Bovino posts an interesting account of his time at Watauga High

The get caught jerking it to a Nat Geo in a stairwell was epic.

"the Mast Store banned you for sniffing shoes after people tried them on?”

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?

He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)

Liberals are actually winning big here with gun control talking points. Guy probably would be alive today if he hadn't had a gun.

Guy would definitely be alive today if ICE weren't poorly trained trigger happy monsters.

Everyone seems to have changed from ICE is gestapo to ICE is poorly trained.
The agent who did the shooting teaches on use of force.

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Anonymous wrote:When you’ve lost one of the MAGAest of governors..

Too late. We won't forget and they will lose in a landslide this year.

All it took was a white, heterosexual, gun-toting, male to get smoked by Trump's ICE(S) and now the Republicans are getting an o-shat moment. Too close. I am truly sorry for Pretti's short life. It sounds like he was a really good person that I could have been friends, or at the very least friendly with, but he may indeed be the martyr that cause a positive change.

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Anonymous wrote:If ICE hadn't removed his LEGAL gun from his waistband, which he was NOT brandishing, it wouldn't have gone off. ICE is at fault, no matter how you slice it.

But if a person is resisting arrest and has a firearm, they have every right to remove it because it is a threat.

Why did they need to arrest him in the first place. Is helping another person now a crime? Standing on the side of the road with a phone?

Get the F out of here. Stop rationalizing MURDER.

Under the circumstances, Pretti was interfering with a law enforcement operation by standing in the middle of the street and interfering with the officers' when dealing with agitators. We don't know what was said during the altercation. After he was pepper sprayed, he continued to resist. He should have, at that point, moved away from the situation, especially while carrying a firearm. Not saying he deserved to die, but there are risks you take when putting yourself in that situation.

I don’t understand what was happening before the shooting. Why was he in the middle of the road and how did he plan on helping a person surrounded by armed ice agents?

Exactly. Again, all of these actions alone don't justify lethal force. But the presence of a gun on the agitator during the scuffle changes things significantly. Moral of the story, leave the gun at home when attending tense protests.

Please stop trying to assign blame to the victim of a murder. Trust me, all this is leading to is an ICE agent getting shot in the face and every sane person in the country say, “well, he shouldn’t have been such a traitorous d@ckbag, he just escalated it.”

Why did he bring a gun to a protest the? Was he planning to use it? One has to wonder...

I'm not sure why this is confusing for you. He was allowed to carry a gun. Perhaps he thought violence would break out and he could be the "good guy with a gun" that we're always hearing about. Or he simply carries one for self defense. By your logic anyone who carries a gun is looking to murder people?? You don't realize how ridiculous you sound?

He WAS the good guy with the gun.

(Which disproves the theory that they can stop the bad guys with a gun)

Liberals are actually winning big here with gun control talking points. Guy probably would be alive today if he hadn't had a gun.

Guy would definitely be alive today if ICE weren't poorly trained trigger happy monsters.

Everyone seems to have changed from ICE is gestapo to ICE is poorly trained.
The agent who did the shooting teaches on use of force.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qnu9hd/the_man_who_killed_alex_pretti/ The man who killed Alex Pretti

Four photos. Texas patch. And everything that Bovino told us about him.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone seems to have changed from ICE is gestapo to ICE is poorly trained.
The agent who did the shooting teaches on use of force.

Both things can be true.

The agent who shot Renee Good was very competent at what he was trying to do - put his body in front of a car that was driving away in such as a way as to be able to claim he feared for his life. He knew what he was doing, and was successful at the execution.

That doesn't mean that all the new recruits are trained. And it doesn't mean much that someone is trained well, but to do ba things.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone seems to have changed from ICE is gestapo to ICE is poorly trained.
The agent who did the shooting teaches on use of force.

Both things can be true.

The agent who shot Renee Good was very competent at what he was trying to do - put his body in front of a car that was driving away in such as a way as to be able to claim he feared for his life. He knew what he was doing, and was successful at the execution.

That doesn't mean that all the new recruits are trained. And it doesn't mean much that someone is trained well, but to do ba things.

I don't think there are many smart and well-trained people on DHS front lines anymore but let's say, for the sake of argument, that there are some.

In any field, it's pretty hard to do your job as well as you're capable of doing when you're completely surrounded by inexperienced idiots (many who are 20 years old) who are super excited to be cosplaying, armed, and told to beat up anyone who 'impedes'.

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Anonymous wrote:The president needs to call Alex Pretti’s parents and offer his condolences. He needs to say that what happened should not have happened. Period.

Why would Alex’s parents want to speak with that SOB?