MoCo looking at increasing income taxes for those making above $150K

[Anonymous]

So are these 3 are only options for county exec? I don’t trust any of them. This county is run by incompetent self-serving jerks.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't like Friedson bc he totally protected Potomac (his hometown) ONLY with some other stuff months back.

However, he is one of the only 2 sane people who voted against this absolute bs.

So ppl making just over 150k as a family are gonna get socked with more taxes plus the credit is eliminated, SO THAT MCPS CAN CONTINUE TO BE ENABLED TO BE INCOMPETENT.

Great.

I am DONE with all the other council members including Evan Glass. byeeeeeee

Friedson voted for all the spending. He would rather fund the green bank than let people keep more of their money. Same with Glass. The only executive candidate that put forward a budget without a property tax increase for anyone was Jawando. His colleagues couldn’t stand the idea of giving him a win so they never really considered it.

They never considered Jawando's proposal because it wasn't a good proposal. Many elements were unwise or simply not doable. But at least he tried. Fani-Gonzalez is the only one who stepped up with a workable proposal.

Fani-Gonzalez also proposed cuts that didn’t work, and her tax plan created some problems this year and will create many more problems in future years. It’s fine to disagree with how someone cuts spending. Propose alternatives. Mink, Stewart, and Jawando were serious people on this budget.

People who didn’t propose alternatives are not serious people. I am especially disappointed in Friedson, who engaged very little and was frequently corrected on the facts by department staff and his colleagues when he did engage. He looked like a total joke. He advocated for more spending than he opposed and pontificated about taxes. He lacks either the maturity or the intellect to be executive.

I understand you love the ITOC but you don't understand why Jawando's plan was not workable on a completely different level

Jawando’s plan cut spending growth to 4.2 percent. If you can’t figure out a way to get by on a 4.2 percent spending growth, you’re not working hard enough. This kind of can’t-do attitude is why the budget is a mess. But hey at least we’re still dropping $20 million on the green bank.

Most of the cuts he recommended involved essentially kicking the can down the road. Stuff that needs to be done and if it waits will end up costing more. Some were quite non specific, others were simply not permissible under the county code.

I agree that proposing something is better than nothing, but in no way was his proposal one worth considering.

Sorry how is that different from what they ended up doing? They used one-time money to fund the operating budget and deferred school HVAC maintenance, among other things. They also passed a tax plan that makes a married couple earning more than $75k pay a higher marginal income tax rate than they do today. That same couple couldn’t even afford to rent one of the “workforce housing units” without being rent burdened.

There were some good and bad cuts in the Jawando budget. He expressed a willingness to cut a lot more on the record than either of his two opponents and showed a better grasp of the details during the hearings.

Clearly he didn't since his proposal violated a bunch of rules.

Again, the other members could have proposed offsetting cuts to reduce spending growth. They didn’t. The fact remains that Jawando put a lot more effort and energy into fixing this mess than either of the other two executive candidates. I expected that of Glass because he likes to go with the crowd. Friedson was a disappointment. He has talked big talk about controlling tax burden for eight years and every year he votes for all the spending. I thought maybe this would be the year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So are these 3 are only options for county exec? I don’t trust any of them. This county is run by incompetent self-serving jerks.

Ding ding ding

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't like Friedson bc he totally protected Potomac (his hometown) ONLY with some other stuff months back.

However, he is one of the only 2 sane people who voted against this absolute bs.

So ppl making just over 150k as a family are gonna get socked with more taxes plus the credit is eliminated, SO THAT MCPS CAN CONTINUE TO BE ENABLED TO BE INCOMPETENT.

Great.

I am DONE with all the other council members including Evan Glass. byeeeeeee

Friedson voted for all the spending. He would rather fund the green bank than let people keep more of their money. Same with Glass. The only executive candidate that put forward a budget without a property tax increase for anyone was Jawando. His colleagues couldn’t stand the idea of giving him a win so they never really considered it.

Oh please, Jawando had no workable solution.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't like Friedson bc he totally protected Potomac (his hometown) ONLY with some other stuff months back.

However, he is one of the only 2 sane people who voted against this absolute bs.

So ppl making just over 150k as a family are gonna get socked with more taxes plus the credit is eliminated, SO THAT MCPS CAN CONTINUE TO BE ENABLED TO BE INCOMPETENT.

Great.

I am DONE with all the other council members including Evan Glass. byeeeeeee

Friedson voted for all the spending. He would rather fund the green bank than let people keep more of their money. Same with Glass. The only executive candidate that put forward a budget without a property tax increase for anyone was Jawando. His colleagues couldn’t stand the idea of giving him a win so they never really considered it.

They never considered Jawando's proposal because it wasn't a good proposal. Many elements were unwise or simply not doable. But at least he tried. Fani-Gonzalez is the only one who stepped up with a workable proposal.

Fani-Gonzalez also proposed cuts that didn’t work, and her tax plan created some problems this year and will create many more problems in future years. It’s fine to disagree with how someone cuts spending. Propose alternatives. Mink, Stewart, and Jawando were serious people on this budget.

People who didn’t propose alternatives are not serious people. I am especially disappointed in Friedson, who engaged very little and was frequently corrected on the facts by department staff and his colleagues when he did engage. He looked like a total joke. He advocated for more spending than he opposed and pontificated about taxes. He lacks either the maturity or the intellect to be executive.

I understand you love the ITOC but you don't understand why Jawando's plan was not workable on a completely different level

Jawando’s plan cut spending growth to 4.2 percent. If you can’t figure out a way to get by on a 4.2 percent spending growth, you’re not working hard enough. This kind of can’t-do attitude is why the budget is a mess. But hey at least we’re still dropping $20 million on the green bank.

Most of the cuts he recommended involved essentially kicking the can down the road. Stuff that needs to be done and if it waits will end up costing more. Some were quite non specific, others were simply not permissible under the county code.

I agree that proposing something is better than nothing, but in no way was his proposal one worth considering.

Sorry how is that different from what they ended up doing? They used one-time money to fund the operating budget and deferred school HVAC maintenance, among other things. They also passed a tax plan that makes a married couple earning more than $75k pay a higher marginal income tax rate than they do today. That same couple couldn’t even afford to rent one of the “workforce housing units” without being rent burdened.

There were some good and bad cuts in the Jawando budget. He expressed a willingness to cut a lot more on the record than either of his two opponents and showed a better grasp of the details during the hearings.

Hey Jawando staffer - do tell us what Jawando was willing to cut. And what details does Will know the other people running for the office don't?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't like Friedson bc he totally protected Potomac (his hometown) ONLY with some other stuff months back.

However, he is one of the only 2 sane people who voted against this absolute bs.

So ppl making just over 150k as a family are gonna get socked with more taxes plus the credit is eliminated, SO THAT MCPS CAN CONTINUE TO BE ENABLED TO BE INCOMPETENT.

Great.

I am DONE with all the other council members including Evan Glass. byeeeeeee

Friedson voted for all the spending. He would rather fund the green bank than let people keep more of their money. Same with Glass. The only executive candidate that put forward a budget without a property tax increase for anyone was Jawando. His colleagues couldn’t stand the idea of giving him a win so they never really considered it.

They never considered Jawando's proposal because it wasn't a good proposal. Many elements were unwise or simply not doable. But at least he tried. Fani-Gonzalez is the only one who stepped up with a workable proposal.

Fani-Gonzalez also proposed cuts that didn’t work, and her tax plan created some problems this year and will create many more problems in future years. It’s fine to disagree with how someone cuts spending. Propose alternatives. Mink, Stewart, and Jawando were serious people on this budget.

People who didn’t propose alternatives are not serious people. I am especially disappointed in Friedson, who engaged very little and was frequently corrected on the facts by department staff and his colleagues when he did engage. He looked like a total joke. He advocated for more spending than he opposed and pontificated about taxes. He lacks either the maturity or the intellect to be executive.

I understand you love the ITOC but you don't understand why Jawando's plan was not workable on a completely different level

Jawando’s plan cut spending growth to 4.2 percent. If you can’t figure out a way to get by on a 4.2 percent spending growth, you’re not working hard enough. This kind of can’t-do attitude is why the budget is a mess. But hey at least we’re still dropping $20 million on the green bank.

Most of the cuts he recommended involved essentially kicking the can down the road. Stuff that needs to be done and if it waits will end up costing more. Some were quite non specific, others were simply not permissible under the county code.

I agree that proposing something is better than nothing, but in no way was his proposal one worth considering.

Sorry how is that different from what they ended up doing? They used one-time money to fund the operating budget and deferred school HVAC maintenance, among other things. They also passed a tax plan that makes a married couple earning more than $75k pay a higher marginal income tax rate than they do today. That same couple couldn’t even afford to rent one of the “workforce housing units” without being rent burdened.

There were some good and bad cuts in the Jawando budget. He expressed a willingness to cut a lot more on the record than either of his two opponents and showed a better grasp of the details during the hearings.

Hey Jawando staffer - do tell us what Jawando was willing to cut. And what details does Will know the other people running for the office don't?

Not a Jawando staffer, but his proposal to cut the green bank was enough to get my vote.

[Anonymous]

Great with every boneheaded hike my Frederick County Property jumps in value!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't like Friedson bc he totally protected Potomac (his hometown) ONLY with some other stuff months back.

However, he is one of the only 2 sane people who voted against this absolute bs.

So ppl making just over 150k as a family are gonna get socked with more taxes plus the credit is eliminated, SO THAT MCPS CAN CONTINUE TO BE ENABLED TO BE INCOMPETENT.

Great.

I am DONE with all the other council members including Evan Glass. byeeeeeee

Friedson voted for all the spending. He would rather fund the green bank than let people keep more of their money. Same with Glass. The only executive candidate that put forward a budget without a property tax increase for anyone was Jawando. His colleagues couldn’t stand the idea of giving him a win so they never really considered it.

They never considered Jawando's proposal because it wasn't a good proposal. Many elements were unwise or simply not doable. But at least he tried. Fani-Gonzalez is the only one who stepped up with a workable proposal.

Fani-Gonzalez also proposed cuts that didn’t work, and her tax plan created some problems this year and will create many more problems in future years. It’s fine to disagree with how someone cuts spending. Propose alternatives. Mink, Stewart, and Jawando were serious people on this budget.

People who didn’t propose alternatives are not serious people. I am especially disappointed in Friedson, who engaged very little and was frequently corrected on the facts by department staff and his colleagues when he did engage. He looked like a total joke. He advocated for more spending than he opposed and pontificated about taxes. He lacks either the maturity or the intellect to be executive.

I understand you love the ITOC but you don't understand why Jawando's plan was not workable on a completely different level

Jawando’s plan cut spending growth to 4.2 percent. If you can’t figure out a way to get by on a 4.2 percent spending growth, you’re not working hard enough. This kind of can’t-do attitude is why the budget is a mess. But hey at least we’re still dropping $20 million on the green bank.

Most of the cuts he recommended involved essentially kicking the can down the road. Stuff that needs to be done and if it waits will end up costing more. Some were quite non specific, others were simply not permissible under the county code.

I agree that proposing something is better than nothing, but in no way was his proposal one worth considering.

Sorry how is that different from what they ended up doing? They used one-time money to fund the operating budget and deferred school HVAC maintenance, among other things. They also passed a tax plan that makes a married couple earning more than $75k pay a higher marginal income tax rate than they do today. That same couple couldn’t even afford to rent one of the “workforce housing units” without being rent burdened.

There were some good and bad cuts in the Jawando budget. He expressed a willingness to cut a lot more on the record than either of his two opponents and showed a better grasp of the details during the hearings.

Hey Jawando staffer - do tell us what Jawando was willing to cut. And what details does Will know the other people running for the office don't?

Not a Jawando staffer, but his proposal to cut the green bank was enough to get my vote.

While I agree the green bank is a waste of taxpayer money, this post only underscores that despite county residents being such a well
educated workforce, we are a very superficial voter pool.

[Anonymous]

This will continue until people start either voting differently at the ballot box or voting with their feet and moving to a different county.

I do not expect either of those to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This will continue until people start either voting differently at the ballot box or voting with their feet and moving to a different county.

I do not expect either of those to happen.

You are correct. Very unlikely we escape this spiral.

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Anonymous wrote:This will continue until people start either voting differently at the ballot box or voting with their feet and moving to a different county.

I do not expect either of those to happen.

You are correct. Very unlikely we escape this spiral.

Yes. Expect a savings plan this winter that cuts ride on routes, library hours, rec center hours, transfer station hours, possibly fire services. Perhaps when people see the actual service impacts, they will begin to care. Maybe?

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Anonymous wrote:WTF $150K here is nothing. Is this $150K for single filers?

MoCo keeps increasing taxes rather than thinking about cutting the budget. And the kids are not doing any better year after year of giving MCPS more money.

So sick of this place.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2026/05/08/straw-vote-divided-county-council-supports-progressive-income-tax-structure/

This is funnier:

The ITOC is a $692 property tax credit for homeowners who claim their home as their principal residence. It used to be automatically applied to qualifying county property tax bills, but homeowners now have to fill out a one-time application to receive it.

Elrich has spoken out on multiple occasions against the proposed elimination of the ITOC, which he says will result in most homeowners paying more than they would under his proposal to raise the property tax rate.

Supporters of the proposed elimination of the ITOC emphasize that the credit does not benefit everyone, including people who qualify but may not be aware of it.

“Unfortunately, it doesn’t provide the credit equally to everyone,” Balcombe said on Friday. “Renters don’t get this credit, it is owner-occupied eligible only.”

Renters don't need the credit because they don't pay property taxes in the first place. Idiots.

These council members are morons.

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Anonymous wrote:This will continue until people start either voting differently at the ballot box or voting with their feet and moving to a different county.

I do not expect either of those to happen.

You are correct. Very unlikely we escape this spiral.

Yes. Expect a savings plan this winter that cuts ride on routes, library hours, rec center hours, transfer station hours, possibly fire services. Perhaps when people see the actual service impacts, they will begin to care. Maybe?

Budget cuts are necessary when there is not enough revenue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This will continue until people start either voting differently at the ballot box or voting with their feet and moving to a different county.

I do not expect either of those to happen.

You are correct. Very unlikely we escape this spiral.

Yes. Expect a savings plan this winter that cuts ride on routes, library hours, rec center hours, transfer station hours, possibly fire services. Perhaps when people see the actual service impacts, they will begin to care. Maybe?

Budget cuts are necessary when there is not enough revenue.

They always choose to inflict maximum pain instead of jettisoning dead weight like https://apps.montgomerycountymd.gov/BASISOPERATING/Common/Program.aspx?ID=99D&PROGID=P99P17

Aren't fire services more important than a poet laureate?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will continue until people start either voting differently at the ballot box or voting with their feet and moving to a different county.

I do not expect either of those to happen.

You are correct. Very unlikely we escape this spiral.

Yes. Expect a savings plan this winter that cuts ride on routes, library hours, rec center hours, transfer station hours, possibly fire services. Perhaps when people see the actual service impacts, they will begin to care. Maybe?

They care about virtual signaling stuff. "We deserve fewer library hours and quality of life services!!!"