HB Woodlawn HS questions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The future Dorothy Hamm zoned families did NOT want to send their kids to the Rosslyn site. Nobody wanted the Rosslyn site.

HB got sent there, and got a fancy building for its troubles.

Dorothy Hamm got an addition that added 300 seats for $40 million - bringing capacity to 1000 students. Then the school board approved a Dorothy Hamm boundary that would ensure they would never fill the school to capacity.

HB got bigger with the move, and added 775 seats (counting the Shriver program in the same building) for $100 million...which was actually a little cheaper, per-seat-added, than the simultaneous Hamm addition.

Very disingenuous, Hamm was expensive to renovate because of all the historical preservation and hazardous material protocols. And the school will fill, have you not seen all the high density housing planned by Plan Langston?

HB could have easily stayed if they simpler expanded their program, but instead they moved into a marque building with about half the student population that been proposed when it was a neighborhood school.

No. The parents near Hamm lobbied hard to get HB's building. They did not want their snowflakes in Rosslyn. They won and got the prize parcel of land. HB had to move to the teeny little spot of land in Rosslyn that no one else wanted. They made the most of it. But there is - gasp - affordable housing right next to it. HBers are fine with that, but those Hamm parents did not want that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The future Dorothy Hamm zoned families did NOT want to send their kids to the Rosslyn site. Nobody wanted the Rosslyn site.

HB got sent there, and got a fancy building for its troubles.

Dorothy Hamm got an addition that added 300 seats for $40 million - bringing capacity to 1000 students. Then the school board approved a Dorothy Hamm boundary that would ensure they would never fill the school to capacity.

HB got bigger with the move, and added 775 seats (counting the Shriver program in the same building) for $100 million...which was actually a little cheaper, per-seat-added, than the simultaneous Hamm addition.

Very disingenuous, Hamm was expensive to renovate because of all the historical preservation and hazardous material protocols. And the school will fill, have you not seen all the high density housing planned by Plan Langston?

HB could have easily stayed if they simpler expanded their program, but instead they moved into a marque building with about half the student population that been proposed when it was a neighborhood school.

No. The parents near Hamm lobbied hard to get HB's building. They did not want their snowflakes in Rosslyn. They won and got the prize parcel of land. HB had to move to the teeny little spot of land in Rosslyn that no one else wanted. They made the most of it. But there is - gasp - affordable housing right next to it. HBers are fine with that, but those Hamm parents did not want that!

Yes a neighborhood school at Rosslyn was terrible. But if HBW had expanded it would not have been necessary. That’s the reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The future Dorothy Hamm zoned families did NOT want to send their kids to the Rosslyn site. Nobody wanted the Rosslyn site.

HB got sent there, and got a fancy building for its troubles.

Dorothy Hamm got an addition that added 300 seats for $40 million - bringing capacity to 1000 students. Then the school board approved a Dorothy Hamm boundary that would ensure they would never fill the school to capacity.

HB got bigger with the move, and added 775 seats (counting the Shriver program in the same building) for $100 million...which was actually a little cheaper, per-seat-added, than the simultaneous Hamm addition.

Very disingenuous, Hamm was expensive to renovate because of all the historical preservation and hazardous material protocols. And the school will fill, have you not seen all the high density housing planned by Plan Langston?

HB could have easily stayed if they simpler expanded their program, but instead they moved into a marque building with about half the student population that been proposed when it was a neighborhood school.

No. The parents near Hamm lobbied hard to get HB's building. They did not want their snowflakes in Rosslyn. They won and got the prize parcel of land. HB had to move to the teeny little spot of land in Rosslyn that no one else wanted. They made the most of it. But there is - gasp - affordable housing right next to it. HBers are fine with that, but those Hamm parents did not want that!

They want 1400 seat neighborhood school, twice HBW on that tiny parcel remember.

[Anonymous]

APS proposed a large school at the tiny Rosslyn site. That plan was rejected. It was a terrible plan. Have you even been there? The site is not even really large enough for a small school.

[Anonymous]

I love all this "marquee building" stuff. It is all unfinished concrete. Its seven stories from top to bottom and some kids have to walk up and down a TON of stairs (like subbasement to fourth or fifth floor) two or three times a day when they are in high school. They didn't have really any outdoor sports space until last year and now its just one tiny artificial field. It is loud as hell in the halls and never really quiet in most of the classrooms as a result, which is nightmare if your kid has any kind of distractability issue. There's nowhere for parents to park. The outside roof decks are neat but hot a lot of the time and its Rosslyn so they are loud and you're looking mostly at apartment buildings. I guess the building looks kind of cool from the back side but...OK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love all this "marquee building" stuff. It is all unfinished concrete. Its seven stories from top to bottom and some kids have to walk up and down a TON of stairs (like subbasement to fourth or fifth floor) two or three times a day when they are in high school. They didn't have really any outdoor sports space until last year and now it’s just one tiny artificial field. It is loud as hell in the halls and never really quiet in most of the classrooms as a result, which is nightmare if your kid has any kind of distractability issue. There's nowhere for parents to park. The outside roof decks are neat but hot a lot of the time and it’s Rosslyn so they are loud and you're looking mostly at apartment buildings. I guess the building looks kind of cool from the back side but...OK?

It’s the same with the newer, flashy elementary schools. They look nice but are not very functional and SO LOUD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love all this "marquee building" stuff. It is all unfinished concrete. Its seven stories from top to bottom and some kids have to walk up and down a TON of stairs (like subbasement to fourth or fifth floor) two or three times a day when they are in high school. They didn't have really any outdoor sports space until last year and now its just one tiny artificial field. It is loud as hell in the halls and never really quiet in most of the classrooms as a result, which is nightmare if your kid has any kind of distractability issue. There's nowhere for parents to park. The outside roof decks are neat but hot a lot of the time and its Rosslyn so they are loud and you're looking mostly at apartment buildings. I guess the building looks kind of cool from the back side but...OK?

You revived a 3 week old thread to say that “on no, our $100M school is way worse than the crumbling middle schools around the county”

[Anonymous]

DP. Read the post. Where did it say it’s worse? Two things can be true at the same time. Some of the middle school buildings are in bad shape. But I too have scratched my head over uninformed views of the Heights being some kind of palace. It’s not. It has its issues too. These same HB haters would probably be the first to complain if their kids went there. It was expensive yes but building a new school these days isn’t cheap and the site was challenging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love all this "marquee building" stuff. It is all unfinished concrete. Its seven stories from top to bottom and some kids have to walk up and down a TON of stairs (like subbasement to fourth or fifth floor) two or three times a day when they are in high school. They didn't have really any outdoor sports space until last year and now its just one tiny artificial field. It is loud as hell in the halls and never really quiet in most of the classrooms as a result, which is nightmare if your kid has any kind of distractability issue. There's nowhere for parents to park. The outside roof decks are neat but hot a lot of the time and its Rosslyn so they are loud and you're looking mostly at apartment buildings. I guess the building looks kind of cool from the back side but...OK?

You revived a 3 week old thread to say that “on no, our $100M school is way worse than the crumbling middle schools around the county”

Where's all the hate for Kenmore? It's not a crumbling middle school and IS a marquee school (it has amazing facilities) and has plenty of room. Oh, wait.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The future Dorothy Hamm zoned families did NOT want to send their kids to the Rosslyn site. Nobody wanted the Rosslyn site.

HB got sent there, and got a fancy building for its troubles.

Dorothy Hamm got an addition that added 300 seats for $40 million - bringing capacity to 1000 students. Then the school board approved a Dorothy Hamm boundary that would ensure they would never fill the school to capacity.

HB got bigger with the move, and added 775 seats (counting the Shriver program in the same building) for $100 million...which was actually a little cheaper, per-seat-added, than the simultaneous Hamm addition.

Liar. We are zoned for DHMS and wanted the Rosslyn site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The future Dorothy Hamm zoned families did NOT want to send their kids to the Rosslyn site. Nobody wanted the Rosslyn site.

HB got sent there, and got a fancy building for its troubles.

Dorothy Hamm got an addition that added 300 seats for $40 million - bringing capacity to 1000 students. Then the school board approved a Dorothy Hamm boundary that would ensure they would never fill the school to capacity.

HB got bigger with the move, and added 775 seats (counting the Shriver program in the same building) for $100 million...which was actually a little cheaper, per-seat-added, than the simultaneous Hamm addition.

Liar. We are zoned for DHMS and wanted the Rosslyn site.

Well most of your neighbors did not want their kids in Rosslyn, and they lobbied very hard and loudly for the Stratford site - and they got it. HB lost. If you try to deny that, you're just peddling fake revisionist history.

[Anonymous]

here's just one example - there was a LOT of lobbying!



https://www.arlnow.com/2014/05/10/letter-to-the-editor-relocate-h-b-woodlawn/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Incoming 6th grader- how do the buses work? Are they picked up at local schools? How far in advance? I’m guessing 6-12 take the same bus? Can you share what time your pickup is?

HUB stop at W&L Picks up about 8:30 and gets to school on time. Key school hub stop picks up at 8:20 and gets to school on time. That's all I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. Read the post. Where did it say it’s worse? Two things can be true at the same time. Some of the middle school buildings are in bad shape. But I too have scratched my head over uninformed views of the Heights being some kind of palace. It’s not. It has its issues too. These same HB haters would probably be the first to complain if their kids went there. It was expensive yes but building a new school these days isn’t cheap and the site was challenging.

Please it won a bunch of design awards and environmental kudos; it’s almost brand new. Compared to Swanson and Williamsburg, it’s ridiculous to complain about cosmetic issues like PP, especially at an OPTION school you don’t have to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here's just one example - there was a LOT of lobbying!



https://www.arlnow.com/2014/05/10/letter-to-the-editor-relocate-h-b-woodlawn/

That is some gaslighting. The letter starts out quoting the ArlNow article about the 1300 student middle school at Rosslyn.

https://www.arlnow.com/2014/04/23/developing-aps-exploring-new-school-on-wilson-blvd-property/

Your so called “lobbying” was in response to a terrible plan to put about twice as many students at the Rosslyn site than are there now for HBW. Whatever complaints you have about the Heights for noise or parking, DOUBLE the student body and see if it improves.