Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Still can’t get over the fact that Option 3 is going to bus kids who live in the walk zone for one school to another school far away.

Doesn’t the BOE/mcps take some sort of oath or something that they will use taxpayer funds wisely or at least not waste funds? Busing kids WHO CAN AND SHOULD WALK is wasteful and harmful to the environment.

They are spending our hard earned taxpayer dollars after all.

The most savings from boundary studies comes from maximizing capacity. That typically means bussing certain kids to further schools. The walk zones are 2 miles which is enormous. Even if there was an extra school in the DCC you still couldn't have every potential walker assigned to the school closest to them. It is simply impossible to locate the schools perfectly in this way. And buying land and building schools is $$$$$$$ so stop pretending you care about being responsible with taxpayers dollars.

I think most have conveniently forgotten that the Woodward family bequethed the land for Woodward to MCPS, and required it to always be used as a school.

So this would suggest that MCPS has approximately zero money to institute and maintain this rezoning.

Your logic is not like our earth logic

MCPS can’t build a new school. Can they rent space? No? Can they build out existing spaces? No? The only option is to use the free space?

Wait I forget do we care about appropriate use of taxpayer dollars or not? Because YES, free land is cheaper than buying land at market rate

I am PP and that is my point. The fact that we have to use Woodward’s free land suggests that there is little money to implement the rezoning.

Nope.

Shrug

What you are arguing is that MCPS should spend MORE money to buy land. Eminent domain is absurdly expensive.

These are all just lame excuses to oppose a boundary study that everyone knows is needed and then to pretend kids from the DCC should not be zoned to Woodward. Gmafb

absurd? Fair market value for a blighted area of land.

DCC kids should be educated in the community their parents and guardians chose to reside in. DCC isn't hanging out at Pike and Rose and Montgomery Mall and Bethesda Row....

What are you talking about? Have you ever even been to Montgomery Mall?

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Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

How would that address overcrowding in the DCC? Isn’t that one of the main problems here?

They will demand that MCPS buy land in the DCC and build yet another high school. Knowing of course they will protest the massive tax increase needed to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

How would that address overcrowding in the DCC? Isn’t that one of the main problems here?

They will demand that MCPS buy land in the DCC and build yet another high school. Knowing of course they will protest the massive tax increase needed to do that.

A little late for that too. Where were they when this was discussed previously? Any new builds will factor into the next boundary study.

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I am pretty involved and live in one of those areas and have heard nothing if the sort. We are pretty far into the boundary change process. It’s not going to change.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

How would that address overcrowding in the DCC? Isn’t that one of the main problems here?

They will demand that MCPS buy land in the DCC and build yet another high school. Knowing of course they will protest the massive tax increase needed to do that.

A little late for that too. Where were they when this was discussed previously? Any new builds will factor into the next boundary study.

They do not care. they don't actually want a new high school, they just want to hoard Woodward all for themselves, DCC kids be damned

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

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Anonymous wrote:Still can’t get over the fact that Option 3 is going to bus kids who live in the walk zone for one school to another school far away.

Doesn’t the BOE/mcps take some sort of oath or something that they will use taxpayer funds wisely or at least not waste funds? Busing kids WHO CAN AND SHOULD WALK is wasteful and harmful to the environment.

They are spending our hard earned taxpayer dollars after all.

The most savings from boundary studies comes from maximizing capacity. That typically means bussing certain kids to further schools. The walk zones are 2 miles which is enormous. Even if there was an extra school in the DCC you still couldn't have every potential walker assigned to the school closest to them. It is simply impossible to locate the schools perfectly in this way. And buying land and building schools is $$$$$$$ so stop pretending you care about being responsible with taxpayers dollars.

I think most have conveniently forgotten that the Woodward family bequethed the land for Woodward to MCPS, and required it to always be used as a school.

So this would suggest that MCPS has approximately zero money to institute and maintain this rezoning.

Your logic is not like our earth logic

MCPS can’t build a new school. Can they rent space? No? Can they build out existing spaces? No? The only option is to use the free space?

Wait I forget do we care about appropriate use of taxpayer dollars or not? Because YES, free land is cheaper than buying land at market rate

I am PP and that is my point. The fact that we have to use Woodward’s free land suggests that there is little money to implement the rezoning.

Nope.

Shrug

What you are arguing is that MCPS should spend MORE money to buy land. Eminent domain is absurdly expensive.

These are all just lame excuses to oppose a boundary study that everyone knows is needed and then to pretend kids from the DCC should not be zoned to Woodward. Gmafb

No I am actually not arguing that MCPS should buy land. I am just saying that we don’t know if there are finances to put toward rezoning and if there are what the amounts are. I’m trying to figure out based on their actions what kind of resources they have.

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Anonymous wrote:Still can’t get over the fact that Option 3 is going to bus kids who live in the walk zone for one school to another school far away.

Doesn’t the BOE/mcps take some sort of oath or something that they will use taxpayer funds wisely or at least not waste funds? Busing kids WHO CAN AND SHOULD WALK is wasteful and harmful to the environment.

They are spending our hard earned taxpayer dollars after all.

The most savings from boundary studies comes from maximizing capacity. That typically means bussing certain kids to further schools. The walk zones are 2 miles which is enormous. Even if there was an extra school in the DCC you still couldn't have every potential walker assigned to the school closest to them. It is simply impossible to locate the schools perfectly in this way. And buying land and building schools is $$$$$$$ so stop pretending you care about being responsible with taxpayers dollars.

I think most have conveniently forgotten that the Woodward family bequethed the land for Woodward to MCPS, and required it to always be used as a school.

So this would suggest that MCPS has approximately zero money to institute and maintain this rezoning.

Your logic is not like our earth logic

MCPS can’t build a new school. Can they rent space? No? Can they build out existing spaces? No? The only option is to use the free space?

Wait I forget do we care about appropriate use of taxpayer dollars or not? Because YES, free land is cheaper than buying land at market rate

I am PP and that is my point. The fact that we have to use Woodward’s free land suggests that there is little money to implement the rezoning.

Nope.

Shrug

What you are arguing is that MCPS should spend MORE money to buy land. Eminent domain is absurdly expensive.

These are all just lame excuses to oppose a boundary study that everyone knows is needed and then to pretend kids from the DCC should not be zoned to Woodward. Gmafb

No I am actually not arguing that MCPS should buy land. I am just saying that we don’t know if there are finances to put toward rezoning and if there are what the amounts are. I’m trying to figure out based on their actions what kind of resources they have.

There would be if they didn’t mismanage the funds.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

lol why.

Also do you have anything beside a rumor?

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Yes, because Woodward will be more than 30-47% FARMS in any scenario. Huge difference compared to a W school. At the very best, it will be another QO. At the worst, it will be another Einstein (and actually, Einstein would be the better school).

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Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

lol why.

Also do you have anything beside a rumor?

Yes, it has been discussed in local mommy FB groups

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Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

Omg bring it on

The entitlement is stunning

Bringing that entitlement to light will secure the selection of Option 3

They can’t afford option 3, and no amount of entitlement will change that

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Anonymous wrote:Still can’t get over the fact that Option 3 is going to bus kids who live in the walk zone for one school to another school far away.

Doesn’t the BOE/mcps take some sort of oath or something that they will use taxpayer funds wisely or at least not waste funds? Busing kids WHO CAN AND SHOULD WALK is wasteful and harmful to the environment.

They are spending our hard earned taxpayer dollars after all.

The most savings from boundary studies comes from maximizing capacity. That typically means bussing certain kids to further schools. The walk zones are 2 miles which is enormous. Even if there was an extra school in the DCC you still couldn't have every potential walker assigned to the school closest to them. It is simply impossible to locate the schools perfectly in this way. And buying land and building schools is $$$$$$$ so stop pretending you care about being responsible with taxpayers dollars.

I think most have conveniently forgotten that the Woodward family bequethed the land for Woodward to MCPS, and required it to always be used as a school.

So this would suggest that MCPS has approximately zero money to institute and maintain this rezoning.

Your logic is not like our earth logic

MCPS can’t build a new school. Can they rent space? No? Can they build out existing spaces? No? The only option is to use the free space?

Wait I forget do we care about appropriate use of taxpayer dollars or not? Because YES, free land is cheaper than buying land at market rate

I am PP and that is my point. The fact that we have to use Woodward’s free land suggests that there is little money to implement the rezoning.

Nope.

Shrug

What you are arguing is that MCPS should spend MORE money to buy land. Eminent domain is absurdly expensive.

These are all just lame excuses to oppose a boundary study that everyone knows is needed and then to pretend kids from the DCC should not be zoned to Woodward. Gmafb

No I am actually not arguing that MCPS should buy land. I am just saying that we don’t know if there are finances to put toward rezoning and if there are what the amounts are. I’m trying to figure out based on their actions what kind of resources they have.

You can look at their budget documents to find this information.

They are building 2 new high schools. They need to adjust boundaries. It's not a question of "if". Adjusting boundaries is generally a money saver because it maximizes the resources we have instead of having some buildings over capacity and other buildings under capacity

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Anonymous wrote:I heard some Bethesda parents are going to propose an alternative option where no DCC students attend Woodward and a new consortium is formed that consists of Whitman, WJ, Churchill, Wootton, RM, BCC, and Woodward.

lol why.

Also do you have anything beside a rumor?

Yes, it has been discussed in local mommy FB groups

So no concerted effort just Marlo spouting ideas?

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Anonymous wrote:Still can’t get over the fact that Option 3 is going to bus kids who live in the walk zone for one school to another school far away.

Doesn’t the BOE/mcps take some sort of oath or something that they will use taxpayer funds wisely or at least not waste funds? Busing kids WHO CAN AND SHOULD WALK is wasteful and harmful to the environment.

They are spending our hard earned taxpayer dollars after all.

The most savings from boundary studies comes from maximizing capacity. That typically means bussing certain kids to further schools. The walk zones are 2 miles which is enormous. Even if there was an extra school in the DCC you still couldn't have every potential walker assigned to the school closest to them. It is simply impossible to locate the schools perfectly in this way. And buying land and building schools is $$$$$$$ so stop pretending you care about being responsible with taxpayers dollars.

I think most have conveniently forgotten that the Woodward family bequethed the land for Woodward to MCPS, and required it to always be used as a school.

So this would suggest that MCPS has approximately zero money to institute and maintain this rezoning.

Your logic is not like our earth logic

MCPS can’t build a new school. Can they rent space? No? Can they build out existing spaces? No? The only option is to use the free space?

Wait I forget do we care about appropriate use of taxpayer dollars or not? Because YES, free land is cheaper than buying land at market rate

I am PP and that is my point. The fact that we have to use Woodward’s free land suggests that there is little money to implement the rezoning.

Nope.

Shrug

What you are arguing is that MCPS should spend MORE money to buy land. Eminent domain is absurdly expensive.

These are all just lame excuses to oppose a boundary study that everyone knows is needed and then to pretend kids from the DCC should not be zoned to Woodward. Gmafb

No I am actually not arguing that MCPS should buy land. I am just saying that we don’t know if there are finances to put toward rezoning and if there are what the amounts are. I’m trying to figure out based on their actions what kind of resources they have.

You can look at their budget documents to find this information.

They are building 2 new high schools. They need to adjust boundaries. It's not a question of "if". Adjusting boundaries is generally a money saver because it maximizes the resources we have instead of having some buildings over capacity and other buildings under capacity

Yes obviously they have to adjust boundaries and have already built two schools. The decision to locate one of those high schools where it is appears to be due to free land.

I dont think NO kids should be bused around to help utilization. It’s that some of these options do way more than satisfy utilization. Can MCPS afford to do more than just optimize utilization.