All schools should offer an all-virtual option

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I think you have it wrong. Someone made a thread, not asking for all kids to stay home, but for all schools to offer an all-virtual option. And you've come here, and on every related thread to harass those people and tell them they have an agenda. We don't want to yuck your yum. If you're fine with risking your kid's long-term health in this way, you may know their needs better than us. We just don't want to partake. It is vastly too dangerous.

This is where you are getting the push back. You've been told by administrators, teachers, and other parents that have attended your school longer than you that this is not possible. But, that you have other options if you are concerned. What you want is to be at home but still save your seat in HRCS. And, no. That's not workable without huge sacrifices for all students and staff.

Of course it’s possible. We literally did it last spring. Wtf are you talking about.

Ummmm ... last spring kids covered 1/5 of the common core standards expected by grade. That is not possible to continue in perpetuity. That's wtf I am talking about. And, if your response is "just two more months" I'd like you to revisit late June when we thought this was almost over. There is no golden tix out of this and certainly childhood vaccines aren't it. (Unless all you are really focused on is the safety of your one (two, three) child(ren).)

the problem with the demand to close schools/go virtual as a precaution is that it has NO logical stopping point. based on what we know now, schools could have been open safely all last year. Now we’re ready to open and there’s yet another push to keep them closed because of a new perceived risk.

The logical stopping point is child vaccinations, which FDA has said will be EAU in October. The vaccines are highly effective even against Delta.

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Anonymous wrote:Where's that one snappy poster who always comes in and poops on parents for being entitled? I really need her to poop on the OP and the attendant minions.

She shifted to calling them selfish and telling them they expect to be catered to and they expect to get exactly what they want. Same thing.
But you'll find her, occasionally, posting 12 comments in a row in a thread she doesn't like, until they get deleted.
You'll find her in the Website Feedback forum, alternating manically between starting threads gently edging Jeff to moderate more closely, whining about posts she doesn't like and snapping at Jeff borderline calling him an idiot, or outright saying he's carrying the water for a point-of-view that triggers her.

This is interesting, because the "carrying water" argument (that exact phrase) was based on the WTU mandatory vax argument, while the other stuff was about delta. Are you both the WTU-reporter and the person who is posting non-stop about delta?

Oh, she's also announced she's paranoid and stated that all posters concerned with delta are just one, probably with a WTU something something.

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Listen to the daily today. Its balanced and calming.

And noone is saying kids will have vaccines in October.

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Listen to the daily today. Its balanced and calming.

And noone is saying kids will have vaccines in October.

And look at 12-17 vax rates in wards 7 and 8 and tell us how that is the logical stopping point.

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There's that one person who is always saying that WTU is trying to instill fear, and I generally think that person just has some intense bone to pick with WTU for reasons I don't understand. Like I didn't think they were correct. But...eh.....

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I think you have it wrong. Someone made a thread, not asking for all kids to stay home, but for all schools to offer an all-virtual option. And you've come here, and on every related thread to harass those people and tell them they have an agenda. We don't want to yuck your yum. If you're fine with risking your kid's long-term health in this way, you may know their needs better than us. We just don't want to partake. It is vastly too dangerous.

This is where you are getting the push back. You've been told by administrators, teachers, and other parents that have attended your school longer than you that this is not possible. But, that you have other options if you are concerned. What you want is to be at home but still save your seat in HRCS. And, no. That's not workable without huge sacrifices for all students and staff.

Of course it’s possible. We literally did it last spring. Wtf are you talking about.

Ummmm ... last spring kids covered 1/5 of the common core standards expected by grade. That is not possible to continue in perpetuity. That's wtf I am talking about. And, if your response is "just two more months" I'd like you to revisit late June when we thought this was almost over. There is no golden tix out of this and certainly childhood vaccines aren't it. (Unless all you are really focused on is the safety of your one (two, three) child(ren).)

the problem with the demand to close schools/go virtual as a precaution is that it has NO logical stopping point. based on what we know now, schools could have been open safely all last year. Now we’re ready to open and there’s yet another push to keep them closed because of a new perceived risk.

The logical stopping point is child vaccinations, which FDA has said will be EAU in October. The vaccines are highly effective even against Delta.

for you. Not all kids are going to get vaccinated, certainly not in DC. This is your personal choice - which means you have to find your own solution and not expect everyone to change for you.

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I think you have it wrong. Someone made a thread, not asking for all kids to stay home, but for all schools to offer an all-virtual option. And you've come here, and on every related thread to harass those people and tell them they have an agenda. We don't want to yuck your yum. If you're fine with risking your kid's long-term health in this way, you may know their needs better than us. We just don't want to partake. It is vastly too dangerous.

This is where you are getting the push back. You've been told by administrators, teachers, and other parents that have attended your school longer than you that this is not possible. But, that you have other options if you are concerned. What you want is to be at home but still save your seat in HRCS. And, no. That's not workable without huge sacrifices for all students and staff.

Of course it’s possible. We literally did it last spring. Wtf are you talking about.

Ummmm ... last spring kids covered 1/5 of the common core standards expected by grade. That is not possible to continue in perpetuity. That's wtf I am talking about. And, if your response is "just two more months" I'd like you to revisit late June when we thought this was almost over. There is no golden tix out of this and certainly childhood vaccines aren't it. (Unless all you are really focused on is the safety of your one (two, three) child(ren).)

the problem with the demand to close schools/go virtual as a precaution is that it has NO logical stopping point. based on what we know now, schools could have been open safely all last year. Now we’re ready to open and there’s yet another push to keep them closed because of a new perceived risk.

The logical stopping point is child vaccinations, which FDA has said will be EAU in October. The vaccines are highly effective even against Delta.

for you. Not all kids are going to get vaccinated, certainly not in DC. This is your personal choice - which means you have to find your own solution and not expect everyone to change for you.

So you’re an anti-vaxxer too. Explains a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Articles specifically on delta in children:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990789.page

An MD"s thread specifically on delta in children:

How is Delta doing in DC? Is Childrens filled? No? Then what’s the relevance?

Stop trying to ruin school for everyone else.

Hypothetically, would you evacuate your beachfront Florida home if meteorologists told you a hurricane was coming but you couldn't see it out the window? Sounds like not.

Oh ffs. That is a totally inapt analogy. This is more like “would you bulldoze your neighbors house because you heard their may be strong winds with a 0.01% percentage of falling on your house”?

I know you feel we want to bulldoze your figurative house - you've behaved accordingly this past week. We just want to learn from home until the vaccine is ready or the virus numbers are low enough to be safe. We don't even want your kid to do that. Your kid go to school, go. No bulldozing.

YOU may homeschool. Stop demanding everyone cater to you.

After a year of DL, hybrid, concurrent, asymptomatic testing, smaller cohorts, it isn't ethical to tell families "Yeah, we're not doing any of that anymore, no version of it. We know the risks are far greater now, but we can't afford to mitigate them. So send your kids in with us or figure something out on your own." DCPS has a responsibility towards all of its students, including those whose families want their children vaccinated before going into a full classroom with delta circulating.

NP. You hit the nail on the head. The problem is that everyone, DCPS, teachers unions, the media, and some public health experts, have scared parents into thinking that schools are dangerous by closing them last year and only opening them partially with an abundance of partially unproven precautions. The reality is, schools should never have fully closed, and most of these precautions weren’t necessary to make it safe enough for kids to go to school. Now that they finally realized that, they are facing a scared population wary of ever sending their kids back to school.

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It's safe to reopen schools. It has all along, even before people were vaccinated. If you're concerned about the safety, demand teachers get vaccinated. They're the biggest health risk in all of this. The pandemic would be over if people would just get vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

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I think you have it wrong. Someone made a thread, not asking for all kids to stay home, but for all schools to offer an all-virtual option. And you've come here, and on every related thread to harass those people and tell them they have an agenda. We don't want to yuck your yum. If you're fine with risking your kid's long-term health in this way, you may know their needs better than us. We just don't want to partake. It is vastly too dangerous.

This is where you are getting the push back. You've been told by administrators, teachers, and other parents that have attended your school longer than you that this is not possible. But, that you have other options if you are concerned. What you want is to be at home but still save your seat in HRCS. And, no. That's not workable without huge sacrifices for all students and staff.

Of course it’s possible. We literally did it last spring. Wtf are you talking about.

Ummmm ... last spring kids covered 1/5 of the common core standards expected by grade. That is not possible to continue in perpetuity. That's wtf I am talking about. And, if your response is "just two more months" I'd like you to revisit late June when we thought this was almost over. There is no golden tix out of this and certainly childhood vaccines aren't it. (Unless all you are really focused on is the safety of your one (two, three) child(ren).)

the problem with the demand to close schools/go virtual as a precaution is that it has NO logical stopping point. based on what we know now, schools could have been open safely all last year. Now we’re ready to open and there’s yet another push to keep them closed because of a new perceived risk.

The logical stopping point is child vaccinations, which FDA has said will be EAU in October. The vaccines are highly effective even against Delta.

I mean, I'll get my kid vaccinated in October or whenever, but I think the issue is that your goal post- availability of the vaccine -- could keep changing. Not just because the vaccine itself might not arrive in October, but also because you'll get the same issues we are seeing now. The vaccine means you can contract and spread (although that is much less likely) added to a horde of kids who won't be vaccinated (and who will probably be a higher percentage Black) = some people are going to think the risk is still decreased enough for schools to be "safe" (in their version of "safe").

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think you have it wrong. Someone made a thread, not asking for all kids to stay home, but for all schools to offer an all-virtual option. And you've come here, and on every related thread to harass those people and tell them they have an agenda. We don't want to yuck your yum. If you're fine with risking your kid's long-term health in this way, you may know their needs better than us. We just don't want to partake. It is vastly too dangerous.

This is where you are getting the push back. You've been told by administrators, teachers, and other parents that have attended your school longer than you that this is not possible. But, that you have other options if you are concerned. What you want is to be at home but still save your seat in HRCS. And, no. That's not workable without huge sacrifices for all students and staff.

Of course it’s possible. We literally did it last spring. Wtf are you talking about.

Are you seriously holding up last spring as an example that worked??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's safe to reopen schools. It has all along, even before people were vaccinated. If you're concerned about the safety, demand teachers get vaccinated. They're the biggest health risk in all of this. The pandemic would be over if people would just get vaccinated.

Teachers and staff!

Also I would hope there are some pushes to get parents vaccinated (via schools); I think the vaccine clinics at schools are a good way to go, but hopefully schools are also providing the messaging that the best way to provide safety to kids is for parents to be vaxxed.

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I think you have it wrong. Someone made a thread, not asking for all kids to stay home, but for all schools to offer an all-virtual option. And you've come here, and on every related thread to harass those people and tell them they have an agenda. We don't want to yuck your yum. If you're fine with risking your kid's long-term health in this way, you may know their needs better than us. We just don't want to partake. It is vastly too dangerous.

This is where you are getting the push back. You've been told by administrators, teachers, and other parents that have attended your school longer than you that this is not possible. But, that you have other options if you are concerned. What you want is to be at home but still save your seat in HRCS. And, no. That's not workable without huge sacrifices for all students and staff.

Of course it’s possible. We literally did it last spring. Wtf are you talking about.

Ummmm ... last spring kids covered 1/5 of the common core standards expected by grade. That is not possible to continue in perpetuity. That's wtf I am talking about. And, if your response is "just two more months" I'd like you to revisit late June when we thought this was almost over. There is no golden tix out of this and certainly childhood vaccines aren't it. (Unless all you are really focused on is the safety of your one (two, three) child(ren).)

the problem with the demand to close schools/go virtual as a precaution is that it has NO logical stopping point. based on what we know now, schools could have been open safely all last year. Now we’re ready to open and there’s yet another push to keep them closed because of a new perceived risk.

The logical stopping point is child vaccinations, which FDA has said will be EAU in October. The vaccines are highly effective even against Delta.

I mean, I'll get my kid vaccinated in October or whenever, but I think the issue is that your goal post- availability of the vaccine -- could keep changing. Not just because the vaccine itself might not arrive in October, but also because you'll get the same issues we are seeing now. The vaccine means you can contract and spread (although that is much less likely) added to a horde of kids who won't be vaccinated (and who will probably be a higher percentage Black) = some people are going to think the risk is still decreased enough for schools to be "safe" (in their version of "safe").

Edit: the risk is still HIGH enough for schools NOT to be considered "safe"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Articles specifically on delta in children:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990789.page

An MD"s thread specifically on delta in children:

How is Delta doing in DC? Is Childrens filled? No? Then what’s the relevance?

Stop trying to ruin school for everyone else.

Hypothetically, would you evacuate your beachfront Florida home if meteorologists told you a hurricane was coming but you couldn't see it out the window? Sounds like not.

Oh ffs. That is a totally inapt analogy. This is more like “would you bulldoze your neighbors house because you heard their may be strong winds with a 0.01% percentage of falling on your house”?

I know you feel we want to bulldoze your figurative house - you've behaved accordingly this past week. We just want to learn from home until the vaccine is ready or the virus numbers are low enough to be safe. We don't even want your kid to do that. Your kid go to school, go. No bulldozing.

YOU may homeschool. Stop demanding everyone cater to you.

After a year of DL, hybrid, concurrent, asymptomatic testing, smaller cohorts, it isn't ethical to tell families "Yeah, we're not doing any of that anymore, no version of it. We know the risks are far greater now, but we can't afford to mitigate them. So send your kids in with us or figure something out on your own." DCPS has a responsibility towards all of its students, including those whose families want their children vaccinated before going into a full classroom with delta circulating.

NP. You hit the nail on the head. The problem is that everyone, DCPS, teachers unions, the media, and some public health experts, have scared parents into thinking that schools are dangerous by closing them last year and only opening them partially with an abundance of partially unproven precautions. The reality is, schools should never have fully closed, and most of these precautions weren’t necessary to make it safe enough for kids to go to school. Now that they finally realized that, they are facing a scared population wary of ever sending their kids back to school.

Thanks. Although that's the the nail I was going for, as I don't consider myself part of a scared population wary of ever sending my kids back to school. I am an over-educated health analyst who wants their kids vaccinated, and doesn't want their kids to have long-term sequelae because DCPS chose to drop most mitigation and shrug off the risk of the next 4 months for all but 19 medically fragile students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think you have it wrong. Someone made a thread, not asking for all kids to stay home, but for all schools to offer an all-virtual option. And you've come here, and on every related thread to harass those people and tell them they have an agenda. We don't want to yuck your yum. If you're fine with risking your kid's long-term health in this way, you may know their needs better than us. We just don't want to partake. It is vastly too dangerous.

This is where you are getting the push back. You've been told by administrators, teachers, and other parents that have attended your school longer than you that this is not possible. But, that you have other options if you are concerned. What you want is to be at home but still save your seat in HRCS. And, no. That's not workable without huge sacrifices for all students and staff.

Of course it’s possible. We literally did it last spring. Wtf are you talking about.

Are you seriously holding up last spring as an example that worked??

of course. Kids were in school from Feb on and it was fine. and let’s not forget privates and Catholics were open (and will open in the Fall).