Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guess Katie shouldn't have been so quick to yell slow down. Sometimes minding your business is the way to go. Husband defended her? He should have stayed out of it too. Point is -- not everyone is you and you need to stay smart and quiet. Yeah. Bedney shouldn't have shot them but if they let him ride by although it offended their sensibilities ...

Let me guess - a woman who was raped shouldn’t have been wearing a short skirt, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.

I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.

Look, they ended up shot. The world obviously does run by a street code. This is a really bizarre perspective to take.

If someone tried to run over your toddlers on an electric scooter, you would just say NOTHING?! I would definitely say "dude slow down!". This does NOT warrant being shot. He shot a freaking CHILD!!!! He could have killed both children easily.

+1. PP is a coward who wouldn’t stand up for her own children if they were almost run over. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.

I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

So if someone almost runs over you and your child on a scooter, you just cower and hide? Do you also apologize for being in their way? You have to understand that not everyone is as cowardly as you. You can’t expect that level of submissiveness from your average person.

I absolutely understand that it’s hard to control how you react in a confrontation or emergency. But yes, everyone living in a city needs to be cautious and know when to get away or stay away.

It’s impossible to always know in a split second which strangers are violent psychopaths. Stop blaming the victims.

We don't know what happened in this case, or how any of us would have reacted. However, given that there are armed, violent,- and drugged crazy people out there, you have to watch your back. You just do.

[Anonymous]

DCUM's plan for a safer DC.

Defund police, excuse criminal behavior, discourage self defense, victim blame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.

I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.

Look, they ended up shot. The world obviously does run by a street code. This is a really bizarre perspective to take.

If someone tried to run over your toddlers on an electric scooter, you would just say NOTHING?! I would definitely say "dude slow down!". This does NOT warrant being shot. He shot a freaking CHILD!!!! He could have killed both children easily.

+1. PP is a coward who wouldn’t stand up for her own children if they were almost run over. Sad.

I mean, the result here was a child getting shot. So.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM's plan for a safer DC.

Defund police, excuse criminal behavior, discourage self defense, victim blame.

"self defense" does not mean "confronting crazed strangers." more often it means "STFU and engage flight reflex." Unless you're trying to make some OTHER point aboul "self-defense" that has nothing to do with your actual chances of staying safe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can call it cowardly. I call it trying to stay out of trouble.

If you stay home and hide under the bed, then you’ll really be able to stay out of trouble. Why do you leave your house when you know there are crazy people out in the world? Not very street smart of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of the people who are victim-blaming are disgusting. It takes a community effort to maintain a decent neighborhood. When the response to jerks endangering children by riding an electric scooter is to say, "Go inside and hide" then you are abandoning the streets to the miscreants. That's how neighborhoods stay unsafe.

+1. Well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the people who are victim-blaming are disgusting. It takes a community effort to maintain a decent neighborhood. When the response to jerks endangering children by riding an electric scooter is to say, "Go inside and hide" then you are abandoning the streets to the miscreants. That's how neighborhoods stay unsafe.

There is zero chance someone who intentionally runs into you with a scooter is going to change their behavior because you yelled at them. None. Maybe they’ll just ride off and ignore you but maybe they’ll yell back or worse. Sometimes you have to recognize the only outcome of your actions is a bad one and let things go. That’s doesn’t mean the family deserved to be shot or even yelled at.

Now if it’s a neighbor mowing you down on a regular basis, then yes go talk to them. But some rando? Nope.

People got shot by neighbors too. So, by your logic, you can’t speak up when they almost run over you either.

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.

I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.

Look, they ended up shot. The world obviously does run by a street code. This is a really bizarre perspective to take.

If someone tried to run over your toddlers on an electric scooter, you would just say NOTHING?! I would definitely say "dude slow down!". This does NOT warrant being shot. He shot a freaking CHILD!!!! He could have killed both children easily.

+1. PP is a coward who wouldn’t stand up for her own children if they were almost run over. Sad.

I mean, the result here was a child getting shot. So.

Yes, hindsight is nice to have, isn’t it? Some people say, hindsight is 20/20.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM's plan for a safer DC.

Defund police, excuse criminal behavior, discourage self defense, victim blame.

"self defense" does not mean "confronting crazed strangers." more often it means "STFU and engage flight reflex." Unless you're trying to make some OTHER point aboul "self-defense" that has nothing to do with your actual chances of staying safe?

DP. They obviously didn’t know he was violent and insane when he initially almost ran them over. How is this hard to understand? Obviously if they knew he was a murderous sociopath with a gun, they would have left him alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering where that disturbed “MYOB and STFU” poster is now? Just shameful. That guy needs to be locked up.

I'm here. I think this guy was nuts and doesn't change how I feel at all. They should have backed away and not confronted him. You can be right or you can be dead.

Thank god the world operates by a legal code and not your “street code”.

Except when you're on the street. That's the part you do not seem to get. Sometimes you push the wrong person. The public is just that. The public. You don't know what you're getting. Depending on the response Katie got, the matter should have been dropped. From the neighbor's post, it wasn't. Husband "defended" her. I've seen this before and they just expect to bully the other person because they're oh so right. But sometimes the other person Has a Gun.

You could say the same thing about all the criminals who resist arrest and end up getting shot by police. Sometimes criminals push the wrong cops, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No they're not asking to be raped. But ask yourself honestly WHY are they dressing like that? You used the word yourself. Provocatively. To get attention. To provoke. Rapists are on another level and for them it's control, violence and whatever else.

Or it's just because they like the clothes. Good lord.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM's plan for a safer DC.

Defund police, excuse criminal behavior, discourage self defense, victim blame.

"self defense" does not mean "confronting crazed strangers." more often it means "STFU and engage flight reflex." Unless you're trying to make some OTHER point aboul "self-defense" that has nothing to do with your actual chances of staying safe?

DP. They obviously didn’t know he was violent and insane when he initially almost ran them over. How is this hard to understand? Obviously if they knew he was a murderous sociopath with a gun, they would have left him alone.

Yes, I know. But some people are objecting to the idea that you should do anything at all to keep to yourself in DC and seem to think that being street-smart is some kind of moral failing. Including one mom who just yells at anyone she thinks is driving poorly. This is a horrible story and one which should teach everyone to be very careful. Because you can hope for "societal change" all you want, but no vague notion of societal change is going to keep you safe in the actual event.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the people who are victim-blaming are disgusting. It takes a community effort to maintain a decent neighborhood. When the response to jerks endangering children by riding an electric scooter is to say, "Go inside and hide" then you are abandoning the streets to the miscreants. That's how neighborhoods stay unsafe.

+1. Well said.

This.

And to any mother on this thread that hasn't told a grown man being rude to take care around her small children, I call bullshit. We should not live our lives in fear of a crazy person with a gun. I will still tell a grown man who rides his e-scooter too close to my toddler to SLOW DOWN and I will not slink away into my house when my family is treated poorly.