Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.

So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.

The parents were in the wrong.

This is an insane point of view. Bikes and scooters on the sidewalks have to yield to pedestrians. It's actually the law in DC, and it's also basic common sense. https://ddot.dc.gov/page/ddot-bicycle-and-pedestrian-safety

Agreed, and it’s also important to understand the nature of the neighborhood. This is an area where row houses sit close to the sidewalks and families often play and socialize on their stoops and in the sidewalk. To say the family is “in the wrong” for using the sidewalk in front of their house the way many people in that neighborhood use it, and the way people in dense urban neighborhoods have ALWAYS used the sidewalk, is bizarre. Scooters have been around a few years. Kids in that neighborhood and many others have been sitting in sidewalks playing with chalk or whatever for decades.

Obviously the guy on the scooter was in the wrong, even before he decided to SHOOT A PARENT AND CHILD. Come on.

Some people will just never ascribe fault to violent criminals. This is such an obvious example of why "violence interruptors" are not enough to fix DC. Anyone who would shoot a child is a depraved lunatic. You can interrupt him all day and he will remain a violence lunatic. These people need to be locked up and throw away the key

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.

So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.

The parents were in the wrong.

This is an insane point of view. Bikes and scooters on the sidewalks have to yield to pedestrians. It's actually the law in DC, and it's also basic common sense. https://ddot.dc.gov/page/ddot-bicycle-and-pedestrian-safety

Agreed, and it’s also important to understand the nature of the neighborhood. This is an area where row houses sit close to the sidewalks and families often play and socialize on their stoops and in the sidewalk. To say the family is “in the wrong” for using the sidewalk in front of their house the way many people in that neighborhood use it, and the way people in dense urban neighborhoods have ALWAYS used the sidewalk, is bizarre. Scooters have been around a few years. Kids in that neighborhood and many others have been sitting in sidewalks playing with chalk or whatever for decades.

Obviously the guy on the scooter was in the wrong, even before he decided to SHOOT A PARENT AND CHILD. Come on.

Some people will just never ascribe fault to violent criminals. This is such an obvious example of why "violence interruptors" are not enough to fix DC. Anyone who would shoot a child is a depraved lunatic. You can interrupt him all day and he will remain a violence lunatic. These people need to be locked up and throw away the key

+1. It’s amazing to me how many people think those who hold opposing political views to them are irredeemable dregs of society but yet also believe that violent criminals are unfortunate victims of society whose behavior should be excused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.

So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.

The parents were in the wrong.

This is an insane point of view. Bikes and scooters on the sidewalks have to yield to pedestrians. It's actually the law in DC, and it's also basic common sense. https://ddot.dc.gov/page/ddot-bicycle-and-pedestrian-safety

Agreed, and it’s also important to understand the nature of the neighborhood. This is an area where row houses sit close to the sidewalks and families often play and socialize on their stoops and in the sidewalk. To say the family is “in the wrong” for using the sidewalk in front of their house the way many people in that neighborhood use it, and the way people in dense urban neighborhoods have ALWAYS used the sidewalk, is bizarre. Scooters have been around a few years. Kids in that neighborhood and many others have been sitting in sidewalks playing with chalk or whatever for decades.

Obviously the guy on the scooter was in the wrong, even before he decided to SHOOT A PARENT AND CHILD. Come on.

Some people will just never ascribe fault to violent criminals. This is such an obvious example of why "violence interruptors" are not enough to fix DC. Anyone who would shoot a child is a depraved lunatic. You can interrupt him all day and he will remain a violence lunatic. These people need to be locked up and throw away the key

+1. It’s amazing to me how many people think those who hold opposing political views to them are irredeemable dregs of society but yet also believe that violent criminals are unfortunate victims of society whose behavior should be excused.

Agreed. I live in the neighborhood with kids and am constantly thinking of this family. I pray they can find peace and a sense of safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

+1. They are super annoying and dangerous on sidewalks. They go way faster than pedestrians. If you happen to step to the side at all when you’re walking, you could easily get run over.

+1 I can't believe anyone seriously thinks they belong on a sidewalk with pedestrians.

The are allowed just the same as bicycles, roller skates, skateboards or big wheels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

+1. They are super annoying and dangerous on sidewalks. They go way faster than pedestrians. If you happen to step to the side at all when you’re walking, you could easily get run over.

+1 I can't believe anyone seriously thinks they belong on a sidewalk with pedestrians.

The are allowed just the same as bicycles, roller skates, skateboards or big wheels.

Let’s play a little game of “one of these things is not like the other.” Here’s the thing: of the modes of transportation you listed, only one is motorized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

+1. They are super annoying and dangerous on sidewalks. They go way faster than pedestrians. If you happen to step to the side at all when you’re walking, you could easily get run over.

+1 I can't believe anyone seriously thinks they belong on a sidewalk with pedestrians.

The are allowed just the same as bicycles, roller skates, skateboards or big wheels.

Let’s play a little game of “one of these things is not like the other.” Here’s the thing: of the modes of transportation you listed, only one is motorized.

DP. Actually 2 out of the 4 come motorized and people in the city pay a lot for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.

So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.

The parents were in the wrong.

This is an insane point of view. Bikes and scooters on the sidewalks have to yield to pedestrians. It's actually the law in DC, and it's also basic common sense. https://ddot.dc.gov/page/ddot-bicycle-and-pedestrian-safety

Agreed, and it’s also important to understand the nature of the neighborhood. This is an area where row houses sit close to the sidewalks and families often play and socialize on their stoops and in the sidewalk. To say the family is “in the wrong” for using the sidewalk in front of their house the way many people in that neighborhood use it, and the way people in dense urban neighborhoods have ALWAYS used the sidewalk, is bizarre. Scooters have been around a few years. Kids in that neighborhood and many others have been sitting in sidewalks playing with chalk or whatever for decades.

Obviously the guy on the scooter was in the wrong, even before he decided to SHOOT A PARENT AND CHILD. Come on.

Some people will just never ascribe fault to violent criminals. This is such an obvious example of why "violence interruptors" are not enough to fix DC. Anyone who would shoot a child is a depraved lunatic. You can interrupt him all day and he will remain a violence lunatic. These people need to be locked up and throw away the key

+1. It’s amazing to me how many people think those who hold opposing political views to them are irredeemable dregs of society but yet also believe that violent criminals are unfortunate victims of society whose behavior should be excused.

This.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the ones who bailed on DC a couple months ago with crime escalating and other quality of life issues going down the tubes. The story of the mother and child being shot in front of their home by a stranger should shake some people up- it's horrifying. They were shot in front of their husband/dad and other sibling, all over a scooter being parked on the block by an obviously really bad guy. It's time to leave DC. Take your tax dollars and join me away from the city. The council, the mayor, no one else will listen or do anything about the problems. Even if they catch the guy who shot this family, good luck seeing actual justice done. It'll be like the Uber Eats driver who was killed, and the perps got, what, a 2-4 years? Vote with your feet!!

I could not be any more horrified at people like you using events like this to push an agenda. I could google and list a ton of disturbing crimes that have happened in Bethesda, Potomac, Falls Church or whatever suburb you fled to. Crime is not unique to a city. You are gross and I am actually glad you left our city.

NP. You do you. But I’m horrified that DC has gotten significantly less safe in the past 12 months. A mother and young son were shot in broad daylight in their front yard. An Uber driver died in an armed car jacking. Members of the city council were car jacked in the middle of the day. Enough is enough. You think this happens in the burbs?

+1. An armed robbery happened in broad daylight (11:00 a.m.) last Friday morning in Cleveland Park. Does everyone know about that?!

Crime is actually terrible in CP. I lived in DC in the early 90s. Lived on 8th and P. It was scary then. Now? Nothing compared to then. Unfortunately, it really is limited to the poor unless mental illness is involved. Sad but true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the ones who bailed on DC a couple months ago with crime escalating and other quality of life issues going down the tubes. The story of the mother and child being shot in front of their home by a stranger should shake some people up- it's horrifying. They were shot in front of their husband/dad and other sibling, all over a scooter being parked on the block by an obviously really bad guy. It's time to leave DC. Take your tax dollars and join me away from the city. The council, the mayor, no one else will listen or do anything about the problems. Even if they catch the guy who shot this family, good luck seeing actual justice done. It'll be like the Uber Eats driver who was killed, and the perps got, what, a 2-4 years? Vote with your feet!!

I could not be any more horrified at people like you using events like this to push an agenda. I could google and list a ton of disturbing crimes that have happened in Bethesda, Potomac, Falls Church or whatever suburb you fled to. Crime is not unique to a city. You are gross and I am actually glad you left our city.

NP. You do you. But I’m horrified that DC has gotten significantly less safe in the past 12 months. A mother and young son were shot in broad daylight in their front yard. An Uber driver died in an armed car jacking. Members of the city council were car jacked in the middle of the day. Enough is enough. You think this happens in the burbs?

+1. An armed robbery happened in broad daylight (11:00 a.m.) last Friday morning in Cleveland Park. Does everyone know about that?!

Crime is actually terrible in CP. I lived in DC in the early 90s. Lived on 8th and P. It was scary then. Now? Nothing compared to then. Unfortunately, it really is limited to the poor unless mental illness is involved. Sad but true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does anyone pick up and throw a Lime scooter?

I’m thinking that if someone almost mows down your toddler you acquire super human strength via anger. Similar to the Incredible Hulk.

It’s gotta be a swinging motion, like the discus. I wonder if he did a full 360.

Some of you are clearly posting from the burbs of Ohio. A scooter is not a moped.

I live in the suburbs and drive into the city for work and park on the street. I have a dent in my driver side door that speaks to those scooters causing damage when not hurled but presumably just tipped over. The guy’s family didn’t deserve to be shot, especially not the innocent kid, that poor kid has at least one parent who is a hot headed moron.

Did your kid get run over, given different timing your kid might have been run over doesn’t count. Look I wanted to hurl my son’s dump truck at the guy in the pick up truck who didn’t yield when we were in the cross walk, but you know I’m with my kid and what if i hit the truck and the guys got out of his truck and and attacked me and my kid, or backed up his truck and ran us both over.

I didn’t do that because my instinct was to protect my son. I yelled and grabbed my son, and cursed his tail lights. Because you know someone who is willing to almost run a cute toddler and his mom over isn’t a nice guy... and might have serious anger issues, so I let it go. The guy who shot the kid is going to jail. The man who threw the scooter needs to lose his wife and kid.

Wow, you’re so wise and quick thinking. You are a true hero and inspiration to us all. Thank you for sharing your story.

No just not a prominent browed, thick jawed Neanderthal who bangs chest and crows big saggy muscles make me big scary guy! Now go drink your bullet coffee and Bless you and have good day ya poor little thing.

PCP is a hell of a drug my guy.

Funny I heard you people were into meth or heroin... but whatevs if the boat is your thing have at it. YOLO.

[Anonymous]

I hope he is haunted by his actions for the rest of his life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does anyone pick up and throw a Lime scooter?

I’m thinking that if someone almost mows down your toddler you acquire super human strength via anger. Similar to the Incredible Hulk.

It’s gotta be a swinging motion, like the discus. I wonder if he did a full 360.

Some of you are clearly posting from the burbs of Ohio. A scooter is not a moped.

I live in the suburbs and drive into the city for work and park on the street. I have a dent in my driver side door that speaks to those scooters causing damage when not hurled but presumably just tipped over. The guy’s family didn’t deserve to be shot, especially not the innocent kid, that poor kid has at least one parent who is a hot headed moron.

Did your kid get run over, given different timing your kid might have been run over doesn’t count. Look I wanted to hurl my son’s dump truck at the guy in the pick up truck who didn’t yield when we were in the cross walk, but you know I’m with my kid and what if i hit the truck and the guys got out of his truck and and attacked me and my kid, or backed up his truck and ran us both over.

I didn’t do that because my instinct was to protect my son. I yelled and grabbed my son, and cursed his tail lights. Because you know someone who is willing to almost run a cute toddler and his mom over isn’t a nice guy... and might have serious anger issues, so I let it go. The guy who shot the kid is going to jail. The man who threw the scooter needs to lose his wife and kid.

Wow, you’re so wise and quick thinking. You are a true hero and inspiration to us all. Thank you for sharing your story.

No just not a prominent browed, thick jawed Neanderthal who bangs chest and crows big saggy muscles make me big scary guy! Now go drink your bullet coffee and Bless you and have good day ya poor little thing.

PCP is a hell of a drug my guy.

Funny I heard you people were into meth or heroin... but whatevs if the boat is your thing have at it. YOLO.

Nah those are white boy drugs. This is DC my brother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.

So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.

The parents were in the wrong.

This is an insane point of view. Bikes and scooters on the sidewalks have to yield to pedestrians. It's actually the law in DC, and it's also basic common sense. https://ddot.dc.gov/page/ddot-bicycle-and-pedestrian-safety

Agreed, and it’s also important to understand the nature of the neighborhood. This is an area where row houses sit close to the sidewalks and families often play and socialize on their stoops and in the sidewalk. To say the family is “in the wrong” for using the sidewalk in front of their house the way many people in that neighborhood use it, and the way people in dense urban neighborhoods have ALWAYS used the sidewalk, is bizarre. Scooters have been around a few years. Kids in that neighborhood and many others have been sitting in sidewalks playing with chalk or whatever for decades.

Obviously the guy on the scooter was in the wrong, even before he decided to SHOOT A PARENT AND CHILD. Come on.

Some people will just never ascribe fault to violent criminals. This is such an obvious example of why "violence interruptors" are not enough to fix DC. Anyone who would shoot a child is a depraved lunatic. You can interrupt him all day and he will remain a violence lunatic. These people need to be locked up and throw away the key

+1. It’s amazing to me how many people think those who hold opposing political views to them are irredeemable dregs of society but yet also believe that violent criminals are unfortunate victims of society whose behavior should be excused.

This.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

+1. They are super annoying and dangerous on sidewalks. They go way faster than pedestrians. If you happen to step to the side at all when you’re walking, you could easily get run over.

+1 I can't believe anyone seriously thinks they belong on a sidewalk with pedestrians.

The are allowed just the same as bicycles, roller skates, skateboards or big wheels.

Nothing motorized should be on a sidewalk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded

+1. They are super annoying and dangerous on sidewalks. They go way faster than pedestrians. If you happen to step to the side at all when you’re walking, you could easily get run over.

+1 I can't believe anyone seriously thinks they belong on a sidewalk with pedestrians.

The are allowed just the same as bicycles, roller skates, skateboards or big wheels.

Let’s play a little game of “one of these things is not like the other.” Here’s the thing: of the modes of transportation you listed, only one is motorized.

And yet the law treats them all the same.