Why is SWS so white?

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Anonymous wrote:To add the following schools rank above SWS when it comes to just white student performance:

Math
Marie Reed
Stoddert
Payne
Janney
Lafayette
Tyler
Watkins
Key
Maury
Inspired
Eaton
DC Bilingual
LT
Ross
Shepherd
Mann
Oyster
Hyde
Even Jefferson MS
Two Rivers
Powell

ELA
Ross
Powell
Bancroft
LT
Key
Payne
Shepherd
Eaton
Maury
Janney
Hearst
Stoddert
Inspired
Lafayette
Jefferson middle (again, only showing cuz CH), Sojourner Truth for that matter
DCB
Two rivers Young
Watkins
Mann
Brent
Tyler
Murch
Oyster
Hyde
Two Rivers 4th
Marie Reed


Also to point out again, SWS has the highest population of white kids outside of the WOTP and some IB CH schools.

SWS has a long way to go. It’s sort of like the CH version of Creative Minds - white people continue to enroll to be amongst white people, not because it’s a better school.

Don’t get me started on their Black student performance. Their ELA scores a whopping 15% - the worst school in the City is scores 11%. They are tied for 5th from last place! Math is a tad better at 27%, tied with Bridges and below Center City Brightwood, Height….

So tell me what exactly does SWS do well?

"Here is 1 metric, based off a flawed standardized test, that a small minority of parents actually care about."

Oh come on. No one is saying PARCC tests are perfect, but when your white kids are underperforming schools in the city most of your parents would never consider and you're tied for 5th worst in the city for AA acheivement in the subject most linked to social mobility (ELA) at a school w/ enormous parental resources and social capital which claims that racial equity is basically its driving mission... something would seem to be very wrong.

It stands to reason that SWS parents may be a little less hard charging at home when it comes to academics and that that posture coheres with SWS’s more gentle approach. If it’s a good fit for them, why complain?

Wouldn’t work for my kids, but is there some evidence that SWS kids fall on their face elsewhere? If not, let SWS be SWS now, let SWS be SWS tomorruh, let SWS be SWS forevah!!

SWS is a great school for kids who aren’t exactly academically oriented. If you don’t have great aspirations in that area, you can be happy at SWS, muddle through Stuart Hobson, and graduate from eastern. School isn’t for everyone and I am not trying to be shady. If you’re looking for real academics, literally any other school is a better option.

This is completely true. And there are MANY of these families at SWS. Type-A parents should not go there thinking they will find their people.

However, so we don't freak out current Type-A parents too much, it is all redeemable if you intervene before MS. The pandemic really increased the availability of pay-for options outside of school, so it is easier for current parents than it was for parents just 3-4 years ago. We did it, and we know many other families who did, and our kids are doing great academically now. But the longer you wait, the more painful MS will be. In retrospect our kids tell us they would have rather gone to a more "normal" elementary school, but on the upside, they now know what sort of educational experience doesn't work for them, which presumably will be helpful when we're looking at colleges, etc.

I’m not sure there are any public elementary schools where parents can just sit back and expect the school to do the heavy lifting— at least not anymore. SWS may be especially tame, but parents that supplement would likely do so at any other public school —- and at most privates frankly.

Agreed. My DCPS kids goes to mathnasium at the same time every week with 2 kids from Capitol Hill Day and 1 from St. Peter's (among others). If I was those parents, unless my kid had substantial learning challenges (and I have zero idea if these kids do), I would be wondering about my life choices. For DCPS? Well mathnasium is A LOT cheaper than private school and my kid scored 99% EOY on iReady, so I'm feeling perfectly satisified with mine.

Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To add the following schools rank above SWS when it comes to just white student performance:

Math
Marie Reed
Stoddert
Payne
Janney
Lafayette
Tyler
Watkins
Key
Maury
Inspired
Eaton
DC Bilingual
LT
Ross
Shepherd
Mann
Oyster
Hyde
Even Jefferson MS
Two Rivers
Powell

ELA
Ross
Powell
Bancroft
LT
Key
Payne
Shepherd
Eaton
Maury
Janney
Hearst
Stoddert
Inspired
Lafayette
Jefferson middle (again, only showing cuz CH), Sojourner Truth for that matter
DCB
Two rivers Young
Watkins
Mann
Brent
Tyler
Murch
Oyster
Hyde
Two Rivers 4th
Marie Reed


Also to point out again, SWS has the highest population of white kids outside of the WOTP and some IB CH schools.

SWS has a long way to go. It’s sort of like the CH version of Creative Minds - white people continue to enroll to be amongst white people, not because it’s a better school.

Don’t get me started on their Black student performance. Their ELA scores a whopping 15% - the worst school in the City is scores 11%. They are tied for 5th from last place! Math is a tad better at 27%, tied with Bridges and below Center City Brightwood, Height….

So tell me what exactly does SWS do well?

"Here is 1 metric, based off a flawed standardized test, that a small minority of parents actually care about."

Oh come on. No one is saying PARCC tests are perfect, but when your white kids are underperforming schools in the city most of your parents would never consider and you're tied for 5th worst in the city for AA acheivement in the subject most linked to social mobility (ELA) at a school w/ enormous parental resources and social capital which claims that racial equity is basically its driving mission... something would seem to be very wrong.

It stands to reason that SWS parents may be a little less hard charging at home when it comes to academics and that that posture coheres with SWS’s more gentle approach. If it’s a good fit for them, why complain?

Wouldn’t work for my kids, but is there some evidence that SWS kids fall on their face elsewhere? If not, let SWS be SWS now, let SWS be SWS tomorruh, let SWS be SWS forevah!!

SWS is a great school for kids who aren’t exactly academically oriented. If you don’t have great aspirations in that area, you can be happy at SWS, muddle through Stuart Hobson, and graduate from eastern. School isn’t for everyone and I am not trying to be shady. If you’re looking for real academics, literally any other school is a better option.

This is completely true. And there are MANY of these families at SWS. Type-A parents should not go there thinking they will find their people.

However, so we don't freak out current Type-A parents too much, it is all redeemable if you intervene before MS. The pandemic really increased the availability of pay-for options outside of school, so it is easier for current parents than it was for parents just 3-4 years ago. We did it, and we know many other families who did, and our kids are doing great academically now. But the longer you wait, the more painful MS will be. In retrospect our kids tell us they would have rather gone to a more "normal" elementary school, but on the upside, they now know what sort of educational experience doesn't work for them, which presumably will be helpful when we're looking at colleges, etc.

I’m not sure there are any public elementary schools where parents can just sit back and expect the school to do the heavy lifting— at least not anymore. SWS may be especially tame, but parents that supplement would likely do so at any other public school —- and at most privates frankly.

Agreed. My DCPS kids goes to mathnasium at the same time every week with 2 kids from Capitol Hill Day and 1 from St. Peter's (among others). If I was those parents, unless my kid had substantial learning challenges (and I have zero idea if these kids do), I would be wondering about my life choices. For DCPS? Well mathnasium is A LOT cheaper than private school and my kid scored 99% EOY on iReady, so I'm feeling perfectly satisified with mine.

Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

No, you're totally misunderstanding. If I was paying $50K for private (Cap Day) and then ALSO paying for Mathnasium, then I would be wondering about my life choices. Supplementing at a DCPS seems... totally normal to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:To add the following schools rank above SWS when it comes to just white student performance:

Math
Marie Reed
Stoddert
Payne
Janney
Lafayette
Tyler
Watkins
Key
Maury
Inspired
Eaton
DC Bilingual
LT
Ross
Shepherd
Mann
Oyster
Hyde
Even Jefferson MS
Two Rivers
Powell

ELA
Ross
Powell
Bancroft
LT
Key
Payne
Shepherd
Eaton
Maury
Janney
Hearst
Stoddert
Inspired
Lafayette
Jefferson middle (again, only showing cuz CH), Sojourner Truth for that matter
DCB
Two rivers Young
Watkins
Mann
Brent
Tyler
Murch
Oyster
Hyde
Two Rivers 4th
Marie Reed


Also to point out again, SWS has the highest population of white kids outside of the WOTP and some IB CH schools.

SWS has a long way to go. It’s sort of like the CH version of Creative Minds - white people continue to enroll to be amongst white people, not because it’s a better school.

Don’t get me started on their Black student performance. Their ELA scores a whopping 15% - the worst school in the City is scores 11%. They are tied for 5th from last place! Math is a tad better at 27%, tied with Bridges and below Center City Brightwood, Height….

So tell me what exactly does SWS do well?

"Here is 1 metric, based off a flawed standardized test, that a small minority of parents actually care about."

Oh come on. No one is saying PARCC tests are perfect, but when your white kids are underperforming schools in the city most of your parents would never consider and you're tied for 5th worst in the city for AA acheivement in the subject most linked to social mobility (ELA) at a school w/ enormous parental resources and social capital which claims that racial equity is basically its driving mission... something would seem to be very wrong.

It stands to reason that SWS parents may be a little less hard charging at home when it comes to academics and that that posture coheres with SWS’s more gentle approach. If it’s a good fit for them, why complain?

Wouldn’t work for my kids, but is there some evidence that SWS kids fall on their face elsewhere? If not, let SWS be SWS now, let SWS be SWS tomorruh, let SWS be SWS forevah!!

SWS is a great school for kids who aren’t exactly academically oriented. If you don’t have great aspirations in that area, you can be happy at SWS, muddle through Stuart Hobson, and graduate from eastern. School isn’t for everyone and I am not trying to be shady. If you’re looking for real academics, literally any other school is a better option.

This is completely true. And there are MANY of these families at SWS. Type-A parents should not go there thinking they will find their people.

However, so we don't freak out current Type-A parents too much, it is all redeemable if you intervene before MS. The pandemic really increased the availability of pay-for options outside of school, so it is easier for current parents than it was for parents just 3-4 years ago. We did it, and we know many other families who did, and our kids are doing great academically now. But the longer you wait, the more painful MS will be. In retrospect our kids tell us they would have rather gone to a more "normal" elementary school, but on the upside, they now know what sort of educational experience doesn't work for them, which presumably will be helpful when we're looking at colleges, etc.

I’m not sure there are any public elementary schools where parents can just sit back and expect the school to do the heavy lifting— at least not anymore. SWS may be especially tame, but parents that supplement would likely do so at any other public school —- and at most privates frankly.

Agreed. My DCPS kids goes to mathnasium at the same time every week with 2 kids from Capitol Hill Day and 1 from St. Peter's (among others). If I was those parents, unless my kid had substantial learning challenges (and I have zero idea if these kids do), I would be wondering about my life choices. For DCPS? Well mathnasium is A LOT cheaper than private school and my kid scored 99% EOY on iReady, so I'm feeling perfectly satisified with mine.

Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

No, you're totally misunderstanding. If I was paying $50K for private (Cap Day) and then ALSO paying for Mathnasium, then I would be wondering about my life choices. Supplementing at a DCPS seems... totally normal to me.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To add the following schools rank above SWS when it comes to just white student performance:

Math
Marie Reed
Stoddert
Payne
Janney
Lafayette
Tyler
Watkins
Key
Maury
Inspired
Eaton
DC Bilingual
LT
Ross
Shepherd
Mann
Oyster
Hyde
Even Jefferson MS
Two Rivers
Powell

ELA
Ross
Powell
Bancroft
LT
Key
Payne
Shepherd
Eaton
Maury
Janney
Hearst
Stoddert
Inspired
Lafayette
Jefferson middle (again, only showing cuz CH), Sojourner Truth for that matter
DCB
Two rivers Young
Watkins
Mann
Brent
Tyler
Murch
Oyster
Hyde
Two Rivers 4th
Marie Reed


Also to point out again, SWS has the highest population of white kids outside of the WOTP and some IB CH schools.

SWS has a long way to go. It’s sort of like the CH version of Creative Minds - white people continue to enroll to be amongst white people, not because it’s a better school.

Don’t get me started on their Black student performance. Their ELA scores a whopping 15% - the worst school in the City is scores 11%. They are tied for 5th from last place! Math is a tad better at 27%, tied with Bridges and below Center City Brightwood, Height….

So tell me what exactly does SWS do well?

"Here is 1 metric, based off a flawed standardized test, that a small minority of parents actually care about."

Oh come on. No one is saying PARCC tests are perfect, but when your white kids are underperforming schools in the city most of your parents would never consider and you're tied for 5th worst in the city for AA acheivement in the subject most linked to social mobility (ELA) at a school w/ enormous parental resources and social capital which claims that racial equity is basically its driving mission... something would seem to be very wrong.

It stands to reason that SWS parents may be a little less hard charging at home when it comes to academics and that that posture coheres with SWS’s more gentle approach. If it’s a good fit for them, why complain?

Wouldn’t work for my kids, but is there some evidence that SWS kids fall on their face elsewhere? If not, let SWS be SWS now, let SWS be SWS tomorruh, let SWS be SWS forevah!!

SWS is a great school for kids who aren’t exactly academically oriented. If you don’t have great aspirations in that area, you can be happy at SWS, muddle through Stuart Hobson, and graduate from eastern. School isn’t for everyone and I am not trying to be shady. If you’re looking for real academics, literally any other school is a better option.

This is completely true. And there are MANY of these families at SWS. Type-A parents should not go there thinking they will find their people.

However, so we don't freak out current Type-A parents too much, it is all redeemable if you intervene before MS. The pandemic really increased the availability of pay-for options outside of school, so it is easier for current parents than it was for parents just 3-4 years ago. We did it, and we know many other families who did, and our kids are doing great academically now. But the longer you wait, the more painful MS will be. In retrospect our kids tell us they would have rather gone to a more "normal" elementary school, but on the upside, they now know what sort of educational experience doesn't work for them, which presumably will be helpful when we're looking at colleges, etc.

I’m not sure there are any public elementary schools where parents can just sit back and expect the school to do the heavy lifting— at least not anymore. SWS may be especially tame, but parents that supplement would likely do so at any other public school —- and at most privates frankly.

Agreed. My DCPS kids goes to mathnasium at the same time every week with 2 kids from Capitol Hill Day and 1 from St. Peter's (among others). If I was those parents, unless my kid had substantial learning challenges (and I have zero idea if these kids do), I would be wondering about my life choices. For DCPS? Well mathnasium is A LOT cheaper than private school and my kid scored 99% EOY on iReady, so I'm feeling perfectly satisified with mine.

Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

No, you're totally misunderstanding. If I was paying $50K for private (Cap Day) and then ALSO paying for Mathnasium, then I would be wondering about my life choices. Supplementing at a DCPS seems... totally normal to me.

I’m the one that posted re supplementing. I say to each their own. People have a thousand different reasons for choosing a school (and different resources for doing so). I’d also question what the private school is doing if I need to supplement aggressively, but tony private school + a little supplementing is prob the right choice for some folks. Or at least they are happy enough with how they’ve organized things they see no reason to change (even if they’d make different choices if doing all over again). So I wouldn’t go so far to question their life choices without very gradual info (that’s probably none of my business anyway).

[Anonymous]

*granular

[Anonymous]

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Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

My upper grades kid is bored in math at school. He's not bored in math at Mathnasium, likes the challenge and upbeat atmosphere, asks to go more than our twice weekly package allows. Not encouraging his math talent in a city without ES or MS GT programs, that's...a bit much.

[Anonymous]

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Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

My upper grades kid is bored in math at school. He's not bored in math at Mathnasium, likes the challenge and upbeat atmosphere, asks to go more than our twice weekly package allows. Not encouraging his math talent in a city without ES or MS GT programs, that's...a bit much.

Why haven't you moved to VA then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

My upper grades kid is bored in math at school. He's not bored in math at Mathnasium, likes the challenge and upbeat atmosphere, asks to go more than our twice weekly package allows. Not encouraging his math talent in a city without ES or MS GT programs, that's...a bit much.

Why haven't you moved to VA then?

DP. Because there are other benefits to living in and growing up in a city and Mathnasium exists?

[Anonymous]

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Parents who are ok with the school doing heavy lifting at DCPS should wonder about their life choices? Even if their kid is on grade level on standardized tests? That's.... a bit much.

My upper grades kid is bored in math at school. He's not bored in math at Mathnasium, likes the challenge and upbeat atmosphere, asks to go more than our twice weekly package allows. Not encouraging his math talent in a city without ES or MS GT programs, that's...a bit much.

Why haven't you moved to VA then?

DP. Because there are other benefits to living in and growing up in a city and Mathnasium exists?

Exactly -- with all the factors folks are attempting to balance I don't get the need to second-guess everyone's choices. Sure if school quality was the ONLY/paramount factor to contend with, DC probably loses to the close-in burbs. But life is more complicated than that of course.

[Anonymous]

maybe an elementary school kid just really likes math... you do not necessarily move over that

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Whats wrong with white people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:To add the following schools rank above SWS when it comes to just white student performance:

Math
Marie Reed
Stoddert
Payne
Janney
Lafayette
Tyler
Watkins
Key
Maury
Inspired
Eaton
DC Bilingual
LT
Ross
Shepherd
Mann
Oyster
Hyde
Even Jefferson MS
Two Rivers
Powell

ELA
Ross
Powell
Bancroft
LT
Key
Payne
Shepherd
Eaton
Maury
Janney
Hearst
Stoddert
Inspired
Lafayette
Jefferson middle (again, only showing cuz CH), Sojourner Truth for that matter
DCB
Two rivers Young
Watkins
Mann
Brent
Tyler
Murch
Oyster
Hyde
Two Rivers 4th
Marie Reed


Also to point out again, SWS has the highest population of white kids outside of the WOTP and some IB CH schools.

SWS has a long way to go. It’s sort of like the CH version of Creative Minds - white people continue to enroll to be amongst white people, not because it’s a better school.

Don’t get me started on their Black student performance. Their ELA scores a whopping 15% - the worst school in the City is scores 11%. They are tied for 5th from last place! Math is a tad better at 27%, tied with Bridges and below Center City Brightwood, Height….

So tell me what exactly does SWS do well?

"Here is 1 metric, based off a flawed standardized test, that a small minority of parents actually care about."

Oh come on. No one is saying PARCC tests are perfect, but when your white kids are underperforming schools in the city most of your parents would never consider and you're tied for 5th worst in the city for AA acheivement in the subject most linked to social mobility (ELA) at a school w/ enormous parental resources and social capital which claims that racial equity is basically its driving mission... something would seem to be very wrong.

It stands to reason that SWS parents may be a little less hard charging at home when it comes to academics and that that posture coheres with SWS’s more gentle approach. If it’s a good fit for them, why complain?

Wouldn’t work for my kids, but is there some evidence that SWS kids fall on their face elsewhere? If not, let SWS be SWS now, let SWS be SWS tomorruh, let SWS be SWS forevah!!

SWS is a great school for kids who aren’t exactly academically oriented. If you don’t have great aspirations in that area, you can be happy at SWS, muddle through Stuart Hobson, and graduate from eastern. School isn’t for everyone and I am not trying to be shady. If you’re looking for real academics, literally any other school is a better option.

You’re not getting it. The school is a public school, not a private school. It’s number one job is to educate City kids. They are failing on their mission. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To add the following schools rank above SWS when it comes to just white student performance:

Math
Marie Reed
Stoddert
Payne
Janney
Lafayette
Tyler
Watkins
Key
Maury
Inspired
Eaton
DC Bilingual
LT
Ross
Shepherd
Mann
Oyster
Hyde
Even Jefferson MS
Two Rivers
Powell

ELA
Ross
Powell
Bancroft
LT
Key
Payne
Shepherd
Eaton
Maury
Janney
Hearst
Stoddert
Inspired
Lafayette
Jefferson middle (again, only showing cuz CH), Sojourner Truth for that matter
DCB
Two rivers Young
Watkins
Mann
Brent
Tyler
Murch
Oyster
Hyde
Two Rivers 4th
Marie Reed


Also to point out again, SWS has the highest population of white kids outside of the WOTP and some IB CH schools.

SWS has a long way to go. It’s sort of like the CH version of Creative Minds - white people continue to enroll to be amongst white people, not because it’s a better school.

Don’t get me started on their Black student performance. Their ELA scores a whopping 15% - the worst school in the City is scores 11%. They are tied for 5th from last place! Math is a tad better at 27%, tied with Bridges and below Center City Brightwood, Height….

So tell me what exactly does SWS do well?

"Here is 1 metric, based off a flawed standardized test, that a small minority of parents actually care about."

Oh come on. No one is saying PARCC tests are perfect, but when your white kids are underperforming schools in the city most of your parents would never consider and you're tied for 5th worst in the city for AA acheivement in the subject most linked to social mobility (ELA) at a school w/ enormous parental resources and social capital which claims that racial equity is basically its driving mission... something would seem to be very wrong.

It stands to reason that SWS parents may be a little less hard charging at home when it comes to academics and that that posture coheres with SWS’s more gentle approach. If it’s a good fit for them, why complain?

Wouldn’t work for my kids, but is there some evidence that SWS kids fall on their face elsewhere? If not, let SWS be SWS now, let SWS be SWS tomorruh, let SWS be SWS forevah!!

SWS is a great school for kids who aren’t exactly academically oriented. If you don’t have great aspirations in that area, you can be happy at SWS, muddle through Stuart Hobson, and graduate from eastern. School isn’t for everyone and I am not trying to be shady. If you’re looking for real academics, literally any other school is a better option.

You’re not getting it. The school is a public school, not a private school. It’s number one job is to educate City kids. They are failing on their mission. Full stop.

Anyone commuting to SWS can just as easily get to (and into) JO Wilson, which is probably sufficiently focused on educating “city kids.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To add the following schools rank above SWS when it comes to just white student performance:

Math
Marie Reed
Stoddert
Payne
Janney
Lafayette
Tyler
Watkins
Key
Maury
Inspired
Eaton
DC Bilingual
LT
Ross
Shepherd
Mann
Oyster
Hyde
Even Jefferson MS
Two Rivers
Powell

ELA
Ross
Powell
Bancroft
LT
Key
Payne
Shepherd
Eaton
Maury
Janney
Hearst
Stoddert
Inspired
Lafayette
Jefferson middle (again, only showing cuz CH), Sojourner Truth for that matter
DCB
Two rivers Young
Watkins
Mann
Brent
Tyler
Murch
Oyster
Hyde
Two Rivers 4th
Marie Reed


Also to point out again, SWS has the highest population of white kids outside of the WOTP and some IB CH schools.

SWS has a long way to go. It’s sort of like the CH version of Creative Minds - white people continue to enroll to be amongst white people, not because it’s a better school.

Don’t get me started on their Black student performance. Their ELA scores a whopping 15% - the worst school in the City is scores 11%. They are tied for 5th from last place! Math is a tad better at 27%, tied with Bridges and below Center City Brightwood, Height….

So tell me what exactly does SWS do well?

"Here is 1 metric, based off a flawed standardized test, that a small minority of parents actually care about."

Oh come on. No one is saying PARCC tests are perfect, but when your white kids are underperforming schools in the city most of your parents would never consider and you're tied for 5th worst in the city for AA acheivement in the subject most linked to social mobility (ELA) at a school w/ enormous parental resources and social capital which claims that racial equity is basically its driving mission... something would seem to be very wrong.

It stands to reason that SWS parents may be a little less hard charging at home when it comes to academics and that that posture coheres with SWS’s more gentle approach. If it’s a good fit for them, why complain?

Wouldn’t work for my kids, but is there some evidence that SWS kids fall on their face elsewhere? If not, let SWS be SWS now, let SWS be SWS tomorruh, let SWS be SWS forevah!!

SWS is a great school for kids who aren’t exactly academically oriented. If you don’t have great aspirations in that area, you can be happy at SWS, muddle through Stuart Hobson, and graduate from eastern. School isn’t for everyone and I am not trying to be shady. If you’re looking for real academics, literally any other school is a better option.

You’re not getting it. The school is a public school, not a private school. It’s number one job is to educate City kids. They are failing on their mission. Full stop.

They're not tho. Just because you hit the full stop doesn't mean you are right in any way

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