Here is the deal, I don't agree with this $50K plan, it's stupid. But if you really, really, really believe that black people are not denied an equal education, equal healthcare, equal jobs, equal mortgages, equal access to housing, etc... if you truly don't believe it then you just refuse to listen or you are willfully ignorant. I'm not going to try to convince you here with a study from Harvard or Duke. Please just educate yourself. I'm sure you are one of my friends/ neighbors who say the same damn ignorant sh*t, I'm sure deep down you are a "good person".... just educate yourself. |
Then where did their wealth go? |
+100. You can disagree with cash handouts (and I do) but it’s impossible to ignore the systemic factors like bad schools, no or bad healthcare, discrimination, and subprime mortgages. These are real problems that we need to address. |
What are black versus white marriage rates? HH wealth is a HH metric and therefore takes both spouses into account if there is a spouse. Marriage, if both are working, improves HH wealth. |
Here you go https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4850739/
Black households are much more likely to be headed by a single female warmer versus white households are more likely to be two earner which explains some differences in HH wealth. |
Right? We all know this. Ignoring that most of the wealth is concentrated in a few people at the top seems to be intentionally skewing the data. This study would only make sense if you looked exclusively at the bottom 90%. |
All these are arbitrary claims, just as your statement to "just educate yourself" is. You have decided on your narrative and you don't care about anything that doesn't fit it. A lot of black Americans face problems, certainly. From what I can tell, it's mostly problems stemming from institutionalized poverty more than race. And there's cultural factors at play. Especially poor urban cultural factors that is disdainful of education, has out of wedlock pregnancies and doesn't marry. These are all more problematic and influential than any of the so called allegations about lack of equal education. No amount of reparations is going to change any of this. But a lot will change if attitudes towards education and child-rearing changes. But no one wants to talk about that, they'd rather blame everything on police violence and demand more freebies from the government. Perhaps you should educate yourself? But I suspect you don't want to. You'd rather stick to the buzzwords and twitter feeds and and racial mongerers telling you you're owed something instead of having to work for it, everything instead of your own actions, your own behaviors, your own decisions. Let's talk about your biases. You probably automatically assumed I was white, right? Probably a white woman, aka a Karen, right? But you have no idea where I come from, who I am or my life experience. And that tells me you are to eager to blindly embrace the cliches and stereotypes because you can continue to blame your failures on being disenfranchised instead of your own actions. |
The study shows medians. But I think one of the big factors is that the household definition favors married couples because it pools two adults' wealth and there are differences in black and white marriage rates (also I'm not sure how they treat biracial households). |
Nobody is saying that all white people are rich and all black people are poor. That's ridiculous and you know it. Nor is anyone saying all poor black people are poor because they are black. What they are saying is that systemic racism is a major factor in black poverty, whereas it is not a major factor in white poverty. For instance, no white people with the means to afford it were denied the sale of a home because of their race and therefore denied the #1 method of transferring generational wealth, whereas millions of black people were. So perhaps a hypothetical poor black person in 2020 was never personally discriminated against directly, but generations of low property values in their neighborhood caused by redlining resulted in reduced funding for schools in their neighborhood which resulted in less educational attainment in their neighborhood which resulted in less college attendance in their neighborhood which resulted in reduced wages. And the immigrant example you used is misleading. Legal immigration into the US is expensive and time consuming. The people who can go through that process are vastly more likely to already have the resources to succeed. Refugees are a different story, but there's also a reason why so many cab drivers in DC have Masters and Ph.Ds. |
Yes the HB-1 visa folks have resources. But you can’t credibly argue that all those immigrant trains on “via Rio Grande” have much in the way of resources, especially after they scraped and borrowed to pay their coyotes. |
I think one of the biggest factors (and the lower marriage rates are part of this) is that black parents tend to raise their children differently. |
DP, you have so many dumb a** assumptions in your reply it is simply amazing. Because you don’t see it or believe it systemic racism does not exist or cause roadblocks. How idiotic. I’m not a trans person but I know there is widespread prejudice against them. I have never been raped but I can see the cultural dysfunctions that make sexual violence a prevalent problem in this country. Telling black folk to work like we don’t. Telling us to get married like we don’t. Tell white folk to stop having babies outside of marriage. Study after study has shown that black fathers are very involved in their children’s lives. Yes, millions of black folk are lazy and immoral that’s why we have problems .... no racism at all to see we are all just either deluded or lying. And no one called you Karen. Telling us |
They were in a coma for a long time. A dark void of unconsciousness brought on by that crack cocaine shit in the 80’s and 90’s. Countless families, whole neighborhoods, entire communities all crumbled overnight and deteriorated for decades as zombies seiged the city streets littered with pipes and bullets. That shit was pumped in from the outside. High rollers, big ballers, “wealthy investors”, and crooked politicians both foreign and domestic all got rich. They steadily lined their pockets with the compensatory profits while watching an entire people literally kill themselves.
Over time, people who’ve been in a coma may start to gradually regain consciousness and become more aware. It’s not an overnight process. |
Dads in families. It doubles the incomes.
Standards. Hustle. |
+100. You can't fix dumb or racist. But I do have to correct one thing. Karen Attiah and lots of folks on the political forum are calling me a Karen. |