The Karen meme silences White women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

Wow. I've never been more thankful for the meme than right now. You SHOULD keep your opinions to yourself in that case. I assume you were wearing your mask? So why not just grab your order and go?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Ok, poor white woman who's lost her voice and doesn't know what to do. Black women have to deal with being labeled angry, welfare queens, etc. Where were you to help stem that bigotry? Pretty sure you were probably buying into the stereotype given how quickly that came to your mind. Welfare queen was coined by Reagan, so unless it's something people in your circles use with some frequency, it wouldn't have come to mind so easily.

So, first you say that "Karen" isn't racist because it only refers to a specific pattern of a certain race and class of women. (That sure sounds like its based upon race and gender.) Then, another poster says, "just like welfare queen." which only applies to a certain race and class of women. And then you get upset that black women are called a welfare queen.

Which is it PP? Are epithets that apply to a certain race and gender racist and misogynist or not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have found that Karens exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Remember that very few white women in the DMV identify as Republicans. I also think there’s something going on beneath the surface here. That is, incel guys who sought, but failed, to have the happy married suburban life with a Karen have gleefully hopped on the bandwagon too.

The misogynistic aspect of all of this does make me wonder who is most invested in promoting the whole Karen thing and I don't think it's Black women (or men). Remember that in 2016 Black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton.

Fellow white women, please don't let anyone use your fear of being called a Karen to manipulate you into disengaging or hardening your heart toward people who don't look like you.

The post immediately above yours uses a "Karen" calling out a black child for selling lemonade, inferring that the "Karen" is white. As other posters have said, men don't use this term. So, who's left? It is disingenuous to say black women don't have an interest in promoting it when there are multitudes of posts on the protests written by posters who proclaim to be black women, calling white female posters "karens."

OP is letting her fear of being called a Karen, essentially her fear of getting her feelings hurt, silence her from speaking out about injustice. That's on her. Black women rightly calling out racist behavior and attitudes are not silencing OP.

PP's point is that it is hypocritical for black women speaking out to use a racist and misogynist term.

So black women using the name Karen is racist and misogynistic, but white women calling cops on black people for no reason is ok? Notice the Karen meme didn't start until repeated harassment of black people by white women for no reason. And now you're mad that there are consequences to your actions? Really?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Ok, poor white woman who's lost her voice and doesn't know what to do. Black women have to deal with being labeled angry, welfare queens, etc. Where were you to help stem that bigotry? Pretty sure you were probably buying into the stereotype given how quickly that came to your mind. Welfare queen was coined by Reagan, so unless it's something people in your circles use with some frequency, it wouldn't have come to mind so easily.

So, first you say that "Karen" isn't racist because it only refers to a specific pattern of a certain race and class of women. (That sure sounds like its based upon race and gender.) Then, another poster says, "just like welfare queen." which only applies to a certain race and class of women. And then you get upset that black women are called a welfare queen.

Which is it PP? Are epithets that apply to a certain race and gender racist and misogynist or not?

The fact that you think calling someone Karen equates to calling a black women a welfare queen speaks volumes. Carry on using your voice to harass people of color. Just hope you don't get caught on video because in today's "pc" culture you will suffer the consequences. Why are you mad at the black people who were harassed by these women instead of the white women whose behavior created this meme? Think about that for a second.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have found that Karens exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Remember that very few white women in the DMV identify as Republicans. I also think there’s something going on beneath the surface here. That is, incel guys who sought, but failed, to have the happy married suburban life with a Karen have gleefully hopped on the bandwagon too.

The misogynistic aspect of all of this does make me wonder who is most invested in promoting the whole Karen thing and I don't think it's Black women (or men). Remember that in 2016 Black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton.

Fellow white women, please don't let anyone use your fear of being called a Karen to manipulate you into disengaging or hardening your heart toward people who don't look like you.

The post immediately above yours uses a "Karen" calling out a black child for selling lemonade, inferring that the "Karen" is white. As other posters have said, men don't use this term. So, who's left? It is disingenuous to say black women don't have an interest in promoting it when there are multitudes of posts on the protests written by posters who proclaim to be black women, calling white female posters "karens."

I don’t think it’s a good look to put down your own sex in sexist term. Call out bad behavior by describing it not by name calling. I really did not enjoy seeing a meme of Donald trump with the “karen” haircut saying i would like to speak to the manager of twitter. He’s a man! Let’s not insult him by calling him a woman.

[Anonymous]

White women don’t deserve to have a voice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Ok, poor white woman who's lost her voice and doesn't know what to do. Black women have to deal with being labeled angry, welfare queens, etc. Where were you to help stem that bigotry? Pretty sure you were probably buying into the stereotype given how quickly that came to your mind. Welfare queen was coined by Reagan, so unless it's something people in your circles use with some frequency, it wouldn't have come to mind so easily.

George Bliss coined the term, not Reagan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

Wow. I've never been more thankful for the meme than right now. You SHOULD keep your opinions to yourself in that case. I assume you were wearing your mask? So why not just grab your order and go?

Or she could have called the store, said she ordered expecting curbside pick up because it was advertised on their site so can someone please bring her order out because she's uncomfortable coming in. End of story instead of this woe is me, I can't use my voice ridiculousness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Ok, poor white woman who's lost her voice and doesn't know what to do. Black women have to deal with being labeled angry, welfare queens, etc. Where were you to help stem that bigotry? Pretty sure you were probably buying into the stereotype given how quickly that came to your mind. Welfare queen was coined by Reagan, so unless it's something people in your circles use with some frequency, it wouldn't have come to mind so easily.

George Bliss coined the term, not Reagan.

Reagan popularized and used it for his political agenda. My point was it was a long time ago, so unless you use it it's not something that quickly jumps to mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Trump has 3 baby mamas

Kate Hudson has 3 baby daddies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White women don’t deserve to have a voice.

And neither do you because everything you say is stupid ignorant sh!t. Go away idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Ok, poor white woman who's lost her voice and doesn't know what to do. Black women have to deal with being labeled angry, welfare queens, etc. Where were you to help stem that bigotry? Pretty sure you were probably buying into the stereotype given how quickly that came to your mind. Welfare queen was coined by Reagan, so unless it's something people in your circles use with some frequency, it wouldn't have come to mind so easily.

George Bliss coined the term, not Reagan.

Reagan popularized and used it for his political agenda. My point was it was a long time ago, so unless you use it it's not something that quickly jumps to mind.

Lol. I have zero doubt that when you read Welfare queen or Baby Mama, a white chick didn’t pop into your head.
I’m just pointing out your hypocrisy by using your own rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Trump has 3 baby mamas

Whatever Sh’aniqua

I love how white people think using what they view as common black name is somehow an insult

Right! It makes me laugh bc it’s such a feeble attempt. Most white people know a Karen. The name you made up isn’t popular within the black community. Try Ashley or Nicole or Dominique or Denise (but these are also white names too sooooo....).

[Anonymous]

It only silences those who behave that way. Unlike OKBoomer which silences an entire generation regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the term Karen does not refer to simple assertive behavior? That it refers to entitled, irritable behavior especially in the presence of minorities, such as calling the cops on them?

How prevalent is this entitled, irritable behavior that extends to summoning police for no other reason than someone is a minority? I am curious.