MCPS schools are segregated

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+1 million

Signed,
A former Democrat voter who will be voting for Trump in Nov 2020

PS. This impeachment BS from the Democrats isn’t helping their cause

No you weren't. I've bolded the tell.

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Anonymous wrote:People want to be with their own kind- whether that be color, religion, SES level, etc... There is nothing wrong with that and the board needs to acknowledge that. Nobody wants to be the only "put whatever you want here" at a school or drastic minority. That includes hispanics and blacks and whites. People need to stop calling everyone who says this a racist.

That doesn't mean that there can't be some redistricting to neighboring schools to help balance the numbers, but nobody should need to be bussed just due to balancing race as there are so many other factors.

So you are good with "separate but equal"?

NP, as long as the separate isn't forced, sure.

Seriously, where are all of these defenders of segregation coming from? Now they're supporting "separate but equal"?!

ok enough

in 2019 anyone can buy anywhere they want period. So quit the talk about segregation.

Seems like the liberals have moved from saying racisim too much to now using segregation. Try again neither of these terms is correct to describe the situation. No one is being forced to live in separate enclaves.

This is a completely ignorant statement. There are decades of policy that have created an unfair situation. You're just sweeping it under the rug with this incredibly naive statement.

In fact, very few people can live anywhere they want. This is the essence of privilege.

DP

But that has nothing to do with race. Economic privilege? Sure. But not based on race.

But of course, economic privilege has been closely tied to race for most of this country's history.

wtf are you idiots talking about just keep playing that victim card morons. This crap is what allowed trump to get elected.

Ignorance of our history is what allowed him to get elected.

Nope. It was the far left takeover of the Democratic Party and illegal immigration.

actually it was the rise of neoliberalism starting in the late 70s where things went horribly wrong

[Anonymous]

Do all these pro-segregation posters actually live here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do all these pro-segregation posters actually live here?

I'm hoping that they're all bots, actually.

[Anonymous]

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+1 million

Signed,
A former Democrat voter who will be voting for Trump in Nov 2020

PS. This impeachment BS from the Democrats isn’t helping their cause

No you weren't. I've bolded the tell.

I’m the PP.

I don’t even know what you mean? I voted for Obama and held my nose and voted for Hillary.

Believe me or don’t. Doesn’t matter in Deep Blue Montgomery County anyway. My vote for Trump is pretty useless. But I vow not to vote for another Democratic candidate until they step back from the edge. They are not interested in me as a non-Latino, non-Muslim woman. So I am no longer interested in them.

Trump is doing a good job. And the County Council in MoCo most certainly it is not. The crazy progressives on the BOE are sacrificing my kids’ education for SJW nonsense (that ultimately won’t even help their cause). No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do all these pro-segregation posters actually live here?

Can you point out a pro-segregation post?

Nobody is forcing anybody of any color to live anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Do all these pro-segregation posters actually live here?

Can you point out a pro-segregation post?

Nobody is forcing anybody of any color to live anywhere.

Then why are the schools segregated? Because people can't live just anywhere. Further, there are a number of historical factors that created this situation.

1) Restricting the majority all the low-income housing to a few areas
2) historical practices like red-lining
3) gerrymandering school boundaries to exclude low-income students or the reverse

[Anonymous]

High-Quality public education shouldn't be contingent on living in a specific area. Bad and good schools shouldn't exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:High-Quality public education shouldn't be contingent on living in a specific area. Bad and good schools shouldn't exist.

There are no bad or good schools, only bad and good students. Any school can be made great if the student body decides so, and no it’s not complicated.

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Anonymous wrote:High-Quality public education shouldn't be contingent on living in a specific area. Bad and good schools shouldn't exist.

There are no bad or good schools, only bad and good students. Any school can be made great if the student body decides so, and no it’s not complicated.

I think you have that backward. All the credible studies which have been discussed here ad nauseam indicate that low-income students perform worse in schools with highly concentrated poverty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:High-Quality public education shouldn't be contingent on living in a specific area. Bad and good schools shouldn't exist.

People swear up and down that MCPS is just one school system. Why isn’t MCPS providing a good education at EVERY school as it is.

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Anonymous wrote:High-Quality public education shouldn't be contingent on living in a specific area. Bad and good schools shouldn't exist.

There are no bad or good schools, only bad and good students. Any school can be made great if the student body decides so, and no it’s not complicated.

I think you have that backward. All the credible studies which have been discussed here ad nauseam indicate that low-income students perform worse in schools with highly concentrated poverty.

No in all studies low income students still mostly fail and underperform. They do so in slightly smaller numbers when in schools filled with rich school levels of kid ratios. Problem is the golden ratios aren’t obtainable in Montgomery County any longer with too many long income minorities are trending towards the majority. At some point a mostly brown and or poor school is going to have to get better somehow without redistribution of white kids.

This is brought to a boil that a few well off areas have maintained rich kid ratios at levels much lower than the rest of the county. The absence of the influx is glaring to the rest of the county as the needs rise quicker than resources.

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+1 million

Signed,
A former Democrat voter who will be voting for Trump in Nov 2020

PS. This impeachment BS from the Democrats isn’t helping their cause

No you weren't. I've bolded the tell.

I’m the PP.

I don’t even know what you mean? I voted for Obama and held my nose and voted for Hillary.

Believe me or don’t. Doesn’t matter in Deep Blue Montgomery County anyway. My vote for Trump is pretty useless. But I vow not to vote for another Democratic candidate until they step back from the edge. They are not interested in me as a non-Latino, non-Muslim woman. So I am no longer interested in them.

Trump is doing a good job. And the County Council in MoCo most certainly it is not. The crazy progressives on the BOE are sacrificing my kids’ education for SJW nonsense (that ultimately won’t even help their cause). No thanks.

I'm the same way; I refuse to vote for a democrat until they return to sanity. I can't bring myself to vote for most republicans, so I'll probably be a third party candidate voter.

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Anonymous wrote:I find this to be very true. My dd's elementary school, 73% white. Her middle school 63% white. Her high school was 52% white. Both middle and elementary schools are still 9 on great schools, high school has dropped to 6 this year. DD just started college. And this is one of "less" segregated areas in MCPS. New town-homes and houses built in the last 2 years were sold for 500K and 800K respectively. I can't imagine that socioeconomic distribution is equal, not even close. DD had white and black friends, but very few Hispanic friends in HS. They are predominantly poor, according to dd and do not do well in school. I think this tells us that school groups are segregated within the school too. I am in favor of busing and desegregation in MoCo. Only good things will come out of it. Rich parents will still pay for their kids tutors and enrichment even if their kids are attending Einstein, rich white parents should have nothing to fear when it comes to desegregating schools and even busing. The backlash here is pure racism, nothing else. Even the most enlightened limousine liberals still get scared when they see a person of color near them. If you don't want your kids to end up racist, you need to expose them to diversity. Only hearing real life stories from kids "unlike" them, who are really just like them, like all of us,be it black, Hispanic, poor or rich, will make your kids open minded and realize the very real racial and economic divide in the country. If your kids stay in your lily white neighborhood they will end up racist, there is no doubt of that at all.

FYI, from talking to kids in even more diverse high schools, the groups are still self-segregating.

Which MCPS HS is 52% white?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:High-Quality public education shouldn't be contingent on living in a specific area. Bad and good schools shouldn't exist.

Bad students and good students exist. Always have, always will.
Same for parents.