MCPS schools are segregated

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Anonymous wrote:PP - are you the guy who likes to post about desegregation in Missouri? I recognize your writing style. Why don’t you step away from the screen and get a breath of fresh air.

If you can recognize writing styles of posters, you too should step away from the computer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP - are you the guy who likes to post about desegregation in Missouri? I recognize your writing style. Why don’t you step away from the screen and get a breath of fresh air.

If you can recognize writing styles of posters, you too should step away from the computer.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you have any clue what it is like to be poor? You can’t just get up and move. A huge percentage of people in this country don’t have or know where they would get $400 for an emergency. How do you get a security deposit for a new apartment, much less a down payment for a mortgage?

OMG, I need a break from you people. Using parental controls to block myself from this website for a while. Enjoy ripping each other to shreds, happy holidays.

They do not! Fact. One pp posted that "those" people like to group and live together. By those people she meant poor Hispanics. Do they know that for decades in the South they refused to provide buses for AA kids? To provide funding? Do they know that in Ellicott City colored school had no running water or electricity until it closed in 1953? And all the rest were the same in MD? Not only do they not know, they don't care to know. And then rubbish of "look how my Asian parents cared and they worked hard to give us education..." Where are all the poor Asian immigrants today? I don't see them. Hispanic moms and dads are working 3 jobs to just feed their kids and put some kind on roof over their heads. But, no pps here have never experienced any of that. They think they made it on their own merit after mom and dad gave them 200K for a house, and paid for their college education. They are livid that ILS are giving each of them 15K per year! White fragility and privilege know no bounds!

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Anonymous wrote:This all seems so misguided. Is the goal to add poorer people into wealth schools just because? What exactly is the purpose and how is this going to help outcomes?

No that is so outdated. They are now moving wealthy kids to poor schools.

same insane principle applies though that somehow adding "higher" performing kids is going to help the "lower performing" kids

that's what's so insane to me and others. The lower performing kids will still be lower performing which I think is the actual thing we should be focused on, how to improve the lower performing kids.

The BOE is relying on studies that indicate low-income students do worse at schools with highly-concentrated poverty. It makes sense the BOE wouldn't want a better learning environment for kids who are struggling, but I also understand many parents are more interested in the potential impact on their property values than an equitable education.

Education is equitable, same curriculum, teachers, same facilities, the outcome is not equitable. Majority parents are interested in good education and school climate for their own kids, there is nothing wrong in that, that's why they are busting their behind to live where they live.

The mission of MCPS isn't to maintain or increase property values; it is to educate all of the children residing in MoCo to the best of its ability.

Everyone is busting their behinds to live where they live. That is not something that only wealthy white people do.

except they aren't. Too many low income people of all races are frankly checked out and do not care about their children and/or their education. Why would anyone stay in an area with terrible schools otherwise.

Provide some data to support your assertion about parents being "checked out."

RE living in an area with what you consider to be "terrible schools": You need a reality check. Do you think everyone has easy access to a Big Law paycheck?

I know plenty of immigrants and asians with low incomes who scrimp and save and live in shacks in good school districts because they care about their kids and realize education is they key to success in this country. But keep playing the victim/racism card idiots.

You should be scared to look in the mirror. Nothing but horror show in you! You know nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have any clue what it is like to be poor? You can’t just get up and move. A huge percentage of people in this country don’t have or know where they would get $400 for an emergency. How do you get a security deposit for a new apartment, much less a down payment for a mortgage?

OMG, I need a break from you people. Using parental controls to block myself from this website for a while. Enjoy ripping each other to shreds, happy holidays.

They do not! Fact. One pp posted that "those" people like to group and live together. By those people she meant poor Hispanics. Do they know that for decades in the South they refused to provide buses for AA kids? To provide funding? Do they know that in Ellicott City colored school had no running water or electricity until it closed in 1953? And all the rest were the same in MD? Not only do they not know, they don't care to know. And then rubbish of "look how my Asian parents cared and they worked hard to give us education..." Where are all the poor Asian immigrants today? I don't see them. Hispanic moms and dads are working 3 jobs to just feed their kids and put some kind on roof over their heads. But, no pps here have never experienced any of that. They think they made it on their own merit after mom and dad gave them 200K for a house, and paid for their college education. They are livid that ILS are giving each of them 15K per year! White fragility and privilege know no bounds!

You may not see them, and lots of other people also don't see them, but they're there. Income inequality in the U.S. is greatest among the Asian-American group.

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/07/12/income-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rising-most-rapidly-among-asians/

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Anonymous wrote:This all seems so misguided. Is the goal to add poorer people into wealth schools just because? What exactly is the purpose and how is this going to help outcomes?

No that is so outdated. They are now moving wealthy kids to poor schools.

same insane principle applies though that somehow adding "higher" performing kids is going to help the "lower performing" kids

that's what's so insane to me and others. The lower performing kids will still be lower performing which I think is the actual thing we should be focused on, how to improve the lower performing kids.

The BOE is relying on studies that indicate low-income students do worse at schools with highly-concentrated poverty. It makes sense the BOE wouldn't want a better learning environment for kids who are struggling, but I also understand many parents are more interested in the potential impact on their property values than an equitable education.

Education is equitable, same curriculum, teachers, same facilities, the outcome is not equitable. Majority parents are interested in good education and school climate for their own kids, there is nothing wrong in that, that's why they are busting their behind to live where they live.

The mission of MCPS isn't to maintain or increase property values; it is to educate all of the children residing in MoCo to the best of its ability.

Everyone is busting their behinds to live where they live. That is not something that only wealthy white people do.

except they aren't. Too many low income people of all races are frankly checked out and do not care about their children and/or their education. Why would anyone stay in an area with terrible schools otherwise.

Provide some data to support your assertion about parents being "checked out."

RE living in an area with what you consider to be "terrible schools": You need a reality check. Do you think everyone has easy access to a Big Law paycheck?

I know plenty of immigrants and asians with low incomes who scrimp and save and live in shacks in good school districts because they care about their kids and realize education is they key to success in this country. But keep playing the victim/racism card idiots.

You should be scared to look in the mirror. Nothing but horror show in you! You know nothing.

lol I know plenty I know the cause of most white and aa poverty is incompetence period. Asians and Hispanics come here work hard and are successful after a generation or 2.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have any clue what it is like to be poor? You can’t just get up and move. A huge percentage of people in this country don’t have or know where they would get $400 for an emergency. How do you get a security deposit for a new apartment, much less a down payment for a mortgage?

OMG, I need a break from you people. Using parental controls to block myself from this website for a while. Enjoy ripping each other to shreds, happy holidays.

They do not! Fact. One pp posted that "those" people like to group and live together. By those people she meant poor Hispanics. Do they know that for decades in the South they refused to provide buses for AA kids? To provide funding? Do they know that in Ellicott City colored school had no running water or electricity until it closed in 1953? And all the rest were the same in MD? Not only do they not know, they don't care to know. And then rubbish of "look how my Asian parents cared and they worked hard to give us education..." Where are all the poor Asian immigrants today? I don't see them. Hispanic moms and dads are working 3 jobs to just feed their kids and put some kind on roof over their heads. But, no pps here have never experienced any of that. They think they made it on their own merit after mom and dad gave them 200K for a house, and paid for their college education. They are livid that ILS are giving each of them 15K per year! White fragility and privilege know no bounds!

You may not see them, and lots of other people also don't see them, but they're there. Income inequality in the U.S. is greatest among the Asian-American group.

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/07/12/income-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rising-most-rapidly-among-asians/

+1. I'm 1/2 Asian, and my Asian friends and relatives in NY have dealt with drugs, gangs, etc. One has a baby born prematurely and drug-addicted; the child has a lot of medical problems.

All Asians are not the same. It irritates me to no end that Asians are treated are treated as one homogenous model minority and wielded as a weapon against African Americans and Latinos in this way.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have any clue what it is like to be poor? You can’t just get up and move. A huge percentage of people in this country don’t have or know where they would get $400 for an emergency. How do you get a security deposit for a new apartment, much less a down payment for a mortgage?

OMG, I need a break from you people. Using parental controls to block myself from this website for a while. Enjoy ripping each other to shreds, happy holidays.

They do not! Fact. One pp posted that "those" people like to group and live together. By those people she meant poor Hispanics. Do they know that for decades in the South they refused to provide buses for AA kids? To provide funding? Do they know that in Ellicott City colored school had no running water or electricity until it closed in 1953? And all the rest were the same in MD? Not only do they not know, they don't care to know. And then rubbish of "look how my Asian parents cared and they worked hard to give us education..." Where are all the poor Asian immigrants today? I don't see them. Hispanic moms and dads are working 3 jobs to just feed their kids and put some kind on roof over their heads. But, no pps here have never experienced any of that. They think they made it on their own merit after mom and dad gave them 200K for a house, and paid for their college education. They are livid that ILS are giving each of them 15K per year! White fragility and privilege know no bounds!

You may not see them, and lots of other people also don't see them, but they're there. Income inequality in the U.S. is greatest among the Asian-American group.

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/07/12/income-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rising-most-rapidly-among-asians/

+1. I'm 1/2 Asian, and my Asian friends and relatives in NY have dealt with drugs, gangs, etc. One has a baby born prematurely and drug-addicted; the child has a lot of medical problems.

All Asians are not the same. It irritates me to no end that Asians are treated are treated as one homogenous model minority and wielded as a weapon against African Americans and Latinos in this way.

Thank you.

People forget how in the 1940s and 50s, the GI Bill and redlining mortgages kept the grandparents of many AA millennials in crumbling inner city neighborhoods, but helped whites escape. This also helped fuel equity and college degrees for white Baby Boomers and Gen X, but still shutting out AAs.

[Anonymous]

How many rich white kids would the county have to bus to Kennedy for white people to want to move IB? Kennedy will sort of always be a school out in the Bum £uck part of tow that is really cheap because people don’t want to live there.

Just a note, poor people need poor parts of town even if they constantly remind them of their station.

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Anonymous wrote:This all seems so misguided. Is the goal to add poorer people into wealth schools just because? What exactly is the purpose and how is this going to help outcomes?

No that is so outdated. They are now moving wealthy kids to poor schools.

same insane principle applies though that somehow adding "higher" performing kids is going to help the "lower performing" kids

that's what's so insane to me and others. The lower performing kids will still be lower performing which I think is the actual thing we should be focused on, how to improve the lower performing kids.

The BOE is relying on studies that indicate low-income students do worse at schools with highly-concentrated poverty. It makes sense the BOE wouldn't want a better learning environment for kids who are struggling, but I also understand many parents are more interested in the potential impact on their property values than an equitable education.

Education is equitable, same curriculum, teachers, same facilities, the outcome is not equitable. Majority parents are interested in good education and school climate for their own kids, there is nothing wrong in that, that's why they are busting their behind to live where they live.

The mission of MCPS isn't to maintain or increase property values; it is to educate all of the children residing in MoCo to the best of its ability.

Everyone is busting their behinds to live where they live. That is not something that only wealthy white people do.

except they aren't. Too many low income people of all races are frankly checked out and do not care about their children and/or their education. Why would anyone stay in an area with terrible schools otherwise.

Provide some data to support your assertion about parents being "checked out."

RE living in an area with what you consider to be "terrible schools": You need a reality check. Do you think everyone has easy access to a Big Law paycheck?

I know plenty of immigrants and asians with low incomes who scrimp and save and live in shacks in good school districts because they care about their kids and realize education is they key to success in this country. But keep playing the victim/racism card idiots.

You should be scared to look in the mirror. Nothing but horror show in you! You know nothing.

There’s a purposeful shortage of apartments and affordable rental homes around the W schools here. People don’t want to allow poor people to live in their neighborhoods or attend their schools. Absolute opportunity hoarding. Where we do see Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants renting, they are doing so through community networks set up for that purpose. Most AAs and Latinx people can’t afford to buy a house in 20850 to rent at a lose to poor people who just happen to be of the same ethnicity. We usually are trying to help ourselves and our close relatives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This all seems so misguided. Is the goal to add poorer people into wealth schools just because? What exactly is the purpose and how is this going to help outcomes?

No that is so outdated. They are now moving wealthy kids to poor schools.

same insane principle applies though that somehow adding "higher" performing kids is going to help the "lower performing" kids

that's what's so insane to me and others. The lower performing kids will still be lower performing which I think is the actual thing we should be focused on, how to improve the lower performing kids.

The BOE is relying on studies that indicate low-income students do worse at schools with highly-concentrated poverty. It makes sense the BOE wouldn't want a better learning environment for kids who are struggling, but I also understand many parents are more interested in the potential impact on their property values than an equitable education.

Education is equitable, same curriculum, teachers, same facilities, the outcome is not equitable. Majority parents are interested in good education and school climate for their own kids, there is nothing wrong in that, that's why they are busting their behind to live where they live.

The mission of MCPS isn't to maintain or increase property values; it is to educate all of the children residing in MoCo to the best of its ability.

Everyone is busting their behinds to live where they live. That is not something that only wealthy white people do.

except they aren't. Too many low income people of all races are frankly checked out and do not care about their children and/or their education. Why would anyone stay in an area with terrible schools otherwise.

Provide some data to support your assertion about parents being "checked out."

RE living in an area with what you consider to be "terrible schools": You need a reality check. Do you think everyone has easy access to a Big Law paycheck?

I know plenty of immigrants and asians with low incomes who scrimp and save and live in shacks in good school districts because they care about their kids and realize education is they key to success in this country. But keep playing the victim/racism card idiots.

You should be scared to look in the mirror. Nothing but horror show in you! You know nothing.

There’s a purposeful shortage of apartments and affordable rental homes around the W schools here. People don’t want to allow poor people to live in their neighborhoods or attend their schools. Absolute opportunity hoarding. Where we do see Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants renting, they are doing so through community networks set up for that purpose. Most AAs and Latinx people can’t afford to buy a house in 20850 to rent at a lose to poor people who just happen to be of the same ethnicity. We usually are trying to help ourselves and our close relatives.

Nearly all of 20850 is zoned for RM. that zip code includes town center. People can buy into RM by buying in Twinbrook ES’s zone.

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Twinbrook is not 20850.

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Anonymous wrote:Twinbrook is not 20850.

And RM isn’t a W school. What’s your point?

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Anonymous wrote:This all seems so misguided. Is the goal to add poorer people into wealth schools just because? What exactly is the purpose and how is this going to help outcomes?

No that is so outdated. They are now moving wealthy kids to poor schools.

same insane principle applies though that somehow adding "higher" performing kids is going to help the "lower performing" kids

that's what's so insane to me and others. The lower performing kids will still be lower performing which I think is the actual thing we should be focused on, how to improve the lower performing kids.

The BOE is relying on studies that indicate low-income students do worse at schools with highly-concentrated poverty. It makes sense the BOE wouldn't want a better learning environment for kids who are struggling, but I also understand many parents are more interested in the potential impact on their property values than an equitable education.

Education is equitable, same curriculum, teachers, same facilities, the outcome is not equitable. Majority parents are interested in good education and school climate for their own kids, there is nothing wrong in that, that's why they are busting their behind to live where they live.

The mission of MCPS isn't to maintain or increase property values; it is to educate all of the children residing in MoCo to the best of its ability.

Everyone is busting their behinds to live where they live. That is not something that only wealthy white people do.

except they aren't. Too many low income people of all races are frankly checked out and do not care about their children and/or their education. Why would anyone stay in an area with terrible schools otherwise.

Provide some data to support your assertion about parents being "checked out."

RE living in an area with what you consider to be "terrible schools": You need a reality check. Do you think everyone has easy access to a Big Law paycheck?

I know plenty of immigrants and asians with low incomes who scrimp and save and live in shacks in good school districts because they care about their kids and realize education is they key to success in this country. But keep playing the victim/racism card idiots.

You should be scared to look in the mirror. Nothing but horror show in you! You know nothing.

lol I know plenty I know the cause of most white and aa poverty is incompetence period. Asians and Hispanics come here work hard and are successful after a generation or 2.

You are so wrong that you can't start to comprehend that you are wrong.