WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT

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Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.

College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.

So you are saying every person getting extra time truly has a learning disability that requires another hour of time to complete the test?

You have no evidence to doubt that they have a "true learning disability". A qualified medical professional has made the diagnosis according to the criteria of their profession and recommended accommodations as appropriate. In most cases the student has accommodations documented at their school in the form of a 504 or IEP, evidence that the school finds the disability compelling. But go ahead believing that all these kids are "fakers" since that's your worldview.

Many of our kids struggled since birth and by age 2 are in many hours of week therapies. Those who deny the need do not have kids with struggles or struggles themselves.

+1 They like to feel victimized by kids struggling with medical diagnoses. Really, the only way these people are underprivileged is by having a complete lack of empathy.

But no one is taking a thing away from those kids who are struggling. Giving extra time to all the test takers would not benefit the kids that do not need it, they would simply finish up and leave early but it could benefit kids who would like more time to read the answers.

+1. Why are parents with the “true” accomodations for their own DC so reluctant to give extra time to all? Maybe the playing field would truly be level...

I doubt anyone with extra time for their kid would object to extra time for all. It's the college board and ACT that imposes the time limits. Anyone with extra time who with object to unlimited time for all is a hypocrite. I think you're misreading to objection to having extra time for their kids attacked with them objecting to extra time for all.

My kid gets extra time and I have no objections to extra time for all. I do not want kids to leave early and disrupt the others, however. I'm also concerned about the price going up for the SAT to pay for all of the extra proctoring.

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2. There needs to be a notation that additional test time was utilized by the test taker.

Nope. HIPPA, ADA, etc.

There is no requirement that an accomodation not be disclosed. They have to be provided. They should be disclosed.

Further, and more to the point, the problem is not so much a kid getting to take an extra hour for the exam. Rather, poor kids and middle class kids who do not have the resources to get outside tutoring, or to take multiple tests, multiple times. Isn't a kid from not so great inner city schools who pulls a 25 on the one time they took the ACT way, way ahead of a kid who gets a 34 on their 4th time after 20 hours of outside tutoring?

Nope, because the kid who scored a 34 learned something in those 20 hours of tutoring.

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Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.

College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.

I am a parent whose child has been tested for delays, though not HS age yet. I have posted on the SN boards. So that where I'm coming from.

I certainly believe that there are students who need the extra time and who have true LD. They need it, and it's a shame that their need for it will be questioned. But I also think it's an area that has a high potential for abuse.

There are parents like those in the college admissions scandal who will intentionally abuse it, and know very well their child has no LD. They did it in this scandal, and I don't think it's that hard to do. Coach your child to act a certain way, they will get a diagnosis. Especially if you have money, you can do this.

I also think there are other parents who I don't think are intentionally faking it, but who just can't seem to accept that their child is anything less than the best. If the child is not top of the class, mom or dad is having everything tested up the wazoo, doctor shopping, and I think if you put enough effort into it, you can probably find someone who will diagnose your child with something -- low processing speed or ADHD. It's not like there's a blood test for these, it's all a judgment call interpreting symptoms.

I also think there is under-diagnosis in low SES communities. It takes money to get these diagnoses, time to get all this testing done, and certain know-how about the system and how to apply for it. Private schools and schools serving an affluent community are on the lookout for LDs, they help students get the help they need through the system. Probably not so much in lower-performing schools.

I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

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I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

No, what bothers us is your son cheated - he probably got too much time for his disability because of how the current system works and which you gamed.

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and this is a disability 'cause.. you don't like it? it's not convenient? he is not good at everything?

i am relatively short.. there is a bunch of things that i struggle with despite being extremely talented for many other things. should this be considered a disability?



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This is a personality difference. Yes, it sucks and causes a hardship, but it is not a "disability". Are people who naturally have low energy levels (lazy) considered to be disabled as well?

In addition to learning issues, kids with ADHD are significantly more socially immature than their peers, have trouble with interpersonal relationships and friendships, and are often delayed in obtaining measures of independence. Proper medication can help many of these symptoms.

Is being clinically depressed also just a personality difference?

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Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.

College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.

I am a parent whose child has been tested for delays, though not HS age yet. I have posted on the SN boards. So that where I'm coming from.

I certainly believe that there are students who need the extra time and who have true LD. They need it, and it's a shame that their need for it will be questioned. But I also think it's an area that has a high potential for abuse.

There are parents like those in the college admissions scandal who will intentionally abuse it, and know very well their child has no LD. They did it in this scandal, and I don't think it's that hard to do. Coach your child to act a certain way, they will get a diagnosis. Especially if you have money, you can do this.

I also think there are other parents who I don't think are intentionally faking it, but who just can't seem to accept that their child is anything less than the best. If the child is not top of the class, mom or dad is having everything tested up the wazoo, doctor shopping, and I think if you put enough effort into it, you can probably find someone who will diagnose your child with something -- low processing speed or ADHD. It's not like there's a blood test for these, it's all a judgment call interpreting symptoms.

I also think there is under-diagnosis in low SES communities. It takes money to get these diagnoses, time to get all this testing done, and certain know-how about the system and how to apply for it. Private schools and schools serving an affluent community are on the lookout for LDs, they help students get the help they need through the system. Probably not so much in lower-performing schools.

I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

Your kid doesn't actually have a disability he is obviously quite bright. So why accept accommodations?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

Your kid doesn't actually have a disability he is obviously quite bright. So why accept accommodations?

Not PP, but that is a false dichotomy. It is a whole lot more complicated than that.

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I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

LOL, there you go again...angry cause a kid who is socially awkward and slow outscored your kid. Sorry. Deal with it!


No, what bothers us is your son cheated - he probably got too much time for his disability because of how the current system works and which you gamed.

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I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

No, what bothers us is your son cheated - he probably got too much time for his disability because of how the current system works and which you gamed.

LOL, there you go again...angry cause a kid who is socially awkward and slow outscored your kid. Sorry. Deal with it!

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Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.

College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.

I am a parent whose child has been tested for delays, though not HS age yet. I have posted on the SN boards. So that where I'm coming from.

I certainly believe that there are students who need the extra time and who have true LD. They need it, and it's a shame that their need for it will be questioned. But I also think it's an area that has a high potential for abuse.

There are parents like those in the college admissions scandal who will intentionally abuse it, and know very well their child has no LD. They did it in this scandal, and I don't think it's that hard to do. Coach your child to act a certain way, they will get a diagnosis. Especially if you have money, you can do this.

I also think there are other parents who I don't think are intentionally faking it, but who just can't seem to accept that their child is anything less than the best. If the child is not top of the class, mom or dad is having everything tested up the wazoo, doctor shopping, and I think if you put enough effort into it, you can probably find someone who will diagnose your child with something -- low processing speed or ADHD. It's not like there's a blood test for these, it's all a judgment call interpreting symptoms.

I also think there is under-diagnosis in low SES communities. It takes money to get these diagnoses, time to get all this testing done, and certain know-how about the system and how to apply for it. Private schools and schools serving an affluent community are on the lookout for LDs, they help students get the help they need through the system. Probably not so much in lower-performing schools.

I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

Your kid doesn't actually have a disability he is obviously quite bright. So why accept accommodations?

Here's why we accept them. He is gifted in math, and does quite well in that and can focus. However, other subjects, not so much, and the attention becomes an issue as well as the executive functioning. What happens, is he drifts off, comes back, and has a hard time refocussing. The extra time gives him the opportunity to demonstrate is mastery of the subject matter. Despite the fact that he is slow and inattentive, he has a very high IQ. And that is what enables him to do so well with the accommodations. Another interesting fact is that he is starting to "grow out of" the processing speed issue as the last test showed improvement. So he is not doomed for life as some may think.

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Anonymous wrote:No one should get extra time. It is just a scam for the wealthy to push their kids above the others.

In real life you don't get extra time.

Bullshit. Pushy / savvy rich kids get extra time on papers and projects from professors. Poor and middle class kids are too scared to ask. Those pushy kids then become corporate “risers” because they’re so skilled at delegating work onto others and taking all the credit.

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Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.

College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.

I am a parent whose child has been tested for delays, though not HS age yet. I have posted on the SN boards. So that where I'm coming from.

I certainly believe that there are students who need the extra time and who have true LD. They need it, and it's a shame that their need for it will be questioned. But I also think it's an area that has a high potential for abuse.

There are parents like those in the college admissions scandal who will intentionally abuse it, and know very well their child has no LD. They did it in this scandal, and I don't think it's that hard to do. Coach your child to act a certain way, they will get a diagnosis. Especially if you have money, you can do this.

I also think there are other parents who I don't think are intentionally faking it, but who just can't seem to accept that their child is anything less than the best. If the child is not top of the class, mom or dad is having everything tested up the wazoo, doctor shopping, and I think if you put enough effort into it, you can probably find someone who will diagnose your child with something -- low processing speed or ADHD. It's not like there's a blood test for these, it's all a judgment call interpreting symptoms.

I also think there is under-diagnosis in low SES communities. It takes money to get these diagnoses, time to get all this testing done, and certain know-how about the system and how to apply for it. Private schools and schools serving an affluent community are on the lookout for LDs, they help students get the help they need through the system. Probably not so much in lower-performing schools.

I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

Your kid doesn't actually have a disability he is obviously quite bright. So why accept accommodations?

Here's why we accept them. He is gifted in math, and does quite well in that and can focus. However, other subjects, not so much, and the attention becomes an issue as well as the executive functioning. What happens, is he drifts off, comes back, and has a hard time refocussing. The extra time gives him the opportunity to demonstrate is mastery of the subject matter. Despite the fact that he is slow and inattentive, he has a very high IQ. And that is what enables him to do so well with the accommodations. Another interesting fact is that he is starting to "grow out of" the processing speed issue as the last test showed improvement. So he is not doomed for life as some may think.

Will your son's attention issues and slow processing speed limit his fields of study as he gets older? For instance, I would think that these types of deficits would rule out becoming a surgeon, airplane pilot, elementary school teacher, first responder, etc.

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I think this is it. I don't think there are very many parents who are actually encouraging their kids to lie about having problems to get a fake diagnosis, but I do think that when a lot of successful parents have average kids, they think that there must be some kind of disability that's causing their kids to not be top performers, hence they see a "problem" and get the kids tested. So I don't think there are really very many wealthy parents who are truly trying to scam the system, but rather they assume that their kids are most likely smarter than what they actually are, and when they don't see the performance that goes with what they perceive the intelligence is, they assume a LD or ADHD.

Oh please. My kid was diagnosed in 2nd grade. And it wasn't because of poor grades. His grades were quite good and he was advanced in math. We didn't pursue testing because we were thinking about the SAT down the line or because we were trying to give him an advantage. We got them because the "elementary" school suggested we do so. My son's issues are mainly attention, slow processing, and executive functioning. It is a brain "disorder" which qualifies as a disability. It puts him at a disadvantage against his peers -- technically. It just turns out he is lightyears brighter than most of them. This is what I think is maddening to many people. But it is what it is, and because of it, my son has been highly successful in school, testing, and college admissions. Sorry that bothers you all.

LOL, there you go again...angry cause a kid who is socially awkward and slow outscored your kid. Sorry. Deal with it!


No, what bothers us is your son cheated - he probably got too much time for his disability because of how the current system works and which you gamed.

You sound very ignorant of what learning and other developmental disabilities are. Thankfully people who are far more educated than you about the workings of the brain have knowledge of what diagnoses exist and what accommodations are appropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.

College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.

So you are saying every person getting extra time truly has a learning disability that requires another hour of time to complete the test?

You have no evidence to doubt that they have a "true learning disability". A qualified medical professional has made the diagnosis according to the criteria of their profession and recommended accommodations as appropriate. In most cases the student has accommodations documented at their school in the form of a 504 or IEP, evidence that the school finds the disability compelling. But go ahead believing that all these kids are "fakers" since that's your worldview.

Many of our kids struggled since birth and by age 2 are in many hours of week therapies. Those who deny the need do not have kids with struggles or struggles themselves.

+1 They like to feel victimized by kids struggling with medical diagnoses. Really, the only way these people are underprivileged is by having a complete lack of empathy.

But no one is taking a thing away from those kids who are struggling. Giving extra time to all the test takers would not benefit the kids that do not need it, they would simply finish up and leave early but it could benefit kids who would like more time to read the answers.

+1. Why are parents with the “true” accomodations for their own DC so reluctant to give extra time to all? Maybe the playing field would truly be level...

I doubt anyone with extra time for their kid would object to extra time for all. It's the college board and ACT that imposes the time limits. Anyone with extra time who with object to unlimited time for all is a hypocrite. I think you're misreading to objection to having extra time for their kids attacked with them objecting to extra time for all.

My kid gets extra time and I have no objections to extra time for all. I do not want kids to leave early and disrupt the others, however. I'm also concerned about the price going up for the SAT to pay for all of the extra proctoring.

So to save money you're ok with not having what's fair to everyone? Maybe they should charge you more for the extra proctors for your kid since cost is such a concern.

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Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.

College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.

So you are saying every person getting extra time truly has a learning disability that requires another hour of time to complete the test?

You have no evidence to doubt that they have a "true learning disability". A qualified medical professional has made the diagnosis according to the criteria of their profession and recommended accommodations as appropriate. In most cases the student has accommodations documented at their school in the form of a 504 or IEP, evidence that the school finds the disability compelling. But go ahead believing that all these kids are "fakers" since that's your worldview.

Many of our kids struggled since birth and by age 2 are in many hours of week therapies. Those who deny the need do not have kids with struggles or struggles themselves.

+1 They like to feel victimized by kids struggling with medical diagnoses. Really, the only way these people are underprivileged is by having a complete lack of empathy.

But no one is taking a thing away from those kids who are struggling. Giving extra time to all the test takers would not benefit the kids that do not need it, they would simply finish up and leave early but it could benefit kids who would like more time to read the answers.

+1. Why are parents with the “true” accomodations for their own DC so reluctant to give extra time to all? Maybe the playing field would truly be level...

I doubt anyone with extra time for their kid would object to extra time for all. It's the college board and ACT that imposes the time limits. Anyone with extra time who with object to unlimited time for all is a hypocrite. I think you're misreading to objection to having extra time for their kids attacked with them objecting to extra time for all.

My kid gets extra time and I have no objections to extra time for all. I do not want kids to leave early and disrupt the others, however. I'm also concerned about the price going up for the SAT to pay for all of the extra proctoring.

So to save money you're ok with not having what's fair to everyone? Maybe they should charge you more for the extra proctors for your kid since cost is such a concern.

They could schedule a break where test takers who were finished could turn in their answer sheets and leave. The ones who prefer to stay can remain and get extra time.