Entitled EOTP parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

I'm not pp, but I find her to be pretty clear. Why are you trying to chase people out of the schools just because they have money and want to help improve them? Do you want the schools to remain completely socioeconomically segregated? If so, how do you think that would benefit the poorer community?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

I'm not pp, but I find her to be pretty clear. Why are you trying to chase people out of the schools just because they have money and want to help improve them? Do you want the schools to remain completely socioeconomically segregated? If so, how do you think that would benefit the poorer community?

Who is trying to chase away whom? The only upset I've read about here is from people who don't appreciate parents or potential parents advocating for more healthy food and less T.V. zombie time. Is that what you mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

I'm not pp, but I find her to be pretty clear. Why are you trying to chase people out of the schools just because they have money and want to help improve them? Do you want the schools to remain completely socioeconomically segregated? If so, how do you think that would benefit the poorer community?

Who is trying to chase away whom? The only upset I've read about here is from people who don't appreciate parents or potential parents advocating for more healthy food and less T.V. zombie time. Is that what you mean?

Yes, that is what I mean. OP seems to want to chase away the "gentrifiers." Why?

[Anonymous]

Dunno. Maybe she likes the Title 1 schools the way they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think the Trix yogurt is freakout worthy, consider this: some of the children in your school won't get any dinner tonight. They won't get any breakfast tomorrow either, either. They may not have clean clothes, a warm bed of their own, or any books for anyone to read to them at night. They may not have a winter coat. They may have a parent (or two) who is missing from the home. They may be living with someone who suffers from addiction. They may be abused.

You need to step back and realize that if you are in a Title 1 school, you are in that school with families who are dealing with big life issues. The teachers know it. The principal knows it. And here you come, complaining about the goddamn yogurt. Pack your kid's lunch. And, since you clearly have time on your hands, find a way to make a real, meaningful difference in these kids' lives. Because getting them some Stoneyfield isn't going to change the trajectory of anyone's life.

How many times can I plus this?

We were at a title 1 school and I forgot what little thing I was zeroed in on regarding my child, something about the uniformed. If she could wear some kind of shoe...whatever. When the principal reminded me that some parents have one uniform shirt that they take home each day, wash and have the kids rewear (or just wear dirty all week).

This "trix" argument is so absurd it shows that some parents really have no idea about the lives of the children that attend their schools.

Will guilting those parents again and again, till they get tired of it and move to the suburbs, really help? There lots of people in suburban schools rated 9 or 10 who don't want THEIR snowflakes coming within five miles of the kids you describe, and who don't want a cent of their tax money going to help them.

I guess Mercedes conservativism (cadillacs haven't been good enough in a while, right?) is so much better than limoliberalism.

Amen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

That browbeating someone with "OMG the kids here have it so much worse than YOUR first world problems, you should just shut up" (which is not precisely what was said above, but I think amounts to the same thing) is basically going to drive many (not all, but many) new families away. In the suburbs if they don't want sugary yogurt for their kids, or TV, there is at least a chance they will taken seriously - they may not win, but they won't be guilted into shutting up. There are already enough factors pulling families to the suburbs, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some.

And I find the narrative of misguided, elitist, uncaring, liberal gentrifiers profoundly unhelpful, and unfair to people who are so different, in a good way, from the mass of upper SES parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mega monster entitled aspiring dcps parent here. My head would effing aesplode if dcps fed my child McDonalds.

+1 I absolutely have to agree. That would be totally unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

That browbeating someone with "OMG the kids here have it so much worse than YOUR first world problems, you should just shut up" (which is not precisely what was said above, but I think amounts to the same thing) is basically going to drive many (not all, but many) new families away. In the suburbs if they don't want sugary yogurt for their kids, or TV, there is at least a chance they will taken seriously - they may not win, but they won't be guilted into shutting up. There are already enough factors pulling families to the suburbs, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some.

And I find the narrative of misguided, elitist, uncaring, liberal gentrifiers profoundly unhelpful, and unfair to people who are so different, in a good way, from the mass of upper SES parents.

I know there have been some people browbeating about it, but I think the majority of posters are really just suggesting a little humility and to keep things in perspective. Principals, teachers, students and parents at high poverty schools have a lot on their plates. We have a really great principal who is very supportive of things like "no screen time" and "healthy food" but she has a huge job in front of her. It's nice to say that everything deserves some attention, but if I have to choose between my principal focusing on getting Chartwells to remove Trix yogurt from the menu and focusing on the many other issues the school faces (discipline system that needs to be consistently enforced, open houses staffed and outreach done, staffing issues in the school addressed, our playground equipment fixed so that kids can go down the slide safely, etc.), I'm going to focus on the bigger issues that are actually within the principal's control. Perspective, and some recognition that the thing you think is the biggest deal in the world is probably one of a huge list of things they need to address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

That browbeating someone with "OMG the kids here have it so much worse than YOUR first world problems, you should just shut up" (which is not precisely what was said above, but I think amounts to the same thing) is basically going to drive many (not all, but many) new families away. In the suburbs if they don't want sugary yogurt for their kids, or TV, there is at least a chance they will taken seriously - they may not win, but they won't be guilted into shutting up. There are already enough factors pulling families to the suburbs, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some.

And I find the narrative of misguided, elitist, uncaring, liberal gentrifiers profoundly unhelpful, and unfair to people who are so different, in a good way, from the mass of upper SES parents.

I know there have been some people browbeating about it, but I think the majority of posters are really just suggesting a little humility and to keep things in perspective. Principals, teachers, students and parents at high poverty schools have a lot on their plates. We have a really great principal who is very supportive of things like "no screen time" and "healthy food" but she has a huge job in front of her. It's nice to say that everything deserves some attention, but if I have to choose between my principal focusing on getting Chartwells to remove Trix yogurt from the menu and focusing on the many other issues the school faces (discipline system that needs to be consistently enforced, open houses staffed and outreach done, staffing issues in the school addressed, our playground equipment fixed so that kids can go down the slide safely, etc.), I'm going to focus on the bigger issues that are actually within the principal's control. Perspective, and some recognition that the thing you think is the biggest deal in the world is probably one of a huge list of things they need to address.

I don't know anyone at my IB title one school who is fighting about trix yogurt etc. This is just a distraction (although I agree that I don't want junk food in school) the "entitled" parents want more music, gym etc for preschoolers, more fundraising, fighting down at city council for money for renovations etc...thats what the entitled parents are fighting for. So OP, you sound pissy cause maybe you were running the show at your underpeforming school, hell maybe you are the principal and now you are put on notice. Get over it or get a new job. You dont' have to thank these parents for doing YOUR job and making the school fucntion better for everyone but at a minimum get the eff out of the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

That browbeating someone with "OMG the kids here have it so much worse than YOUR first world problems, you should just shut up" (which is not precisely what was said above, but I think amounts to the same thing) is basically going to drive many (not all, but many) new families away. In the suburbs if they don't want sugary yogurt for their kids, or TV, there is at least a chance they will taken seriously - they may not win, but they won't be guilted into shutting up. There are already enough factors pulling families to the suburbs, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some.

And I find the narrative of misguided, elitist, uncaring, liberal gentrifiers profoundly unhelpful, and unfair to people who are so different, in a good way, from the mass of upper SES parents.

I know there have been some people browbeating about it, but I think the majority of posters are really just suggesting a little humility and to keep things in perspective. Principals, teachers, students and parents at high poverty schools have a lot on their plates. We have a really great principal who is very supportive of things like "no screen time" and "healthy food" but she has a huge job in front of her. It's nice to say that everything deserves some attention, but if I have to choose between my principal focusing on getting Chartwells to remove Trix yogurt from the menu and focusing on the many other issues the school faces (discipline system that needs to be consistently enforced, open houses staffed and outreach done, staffing issues in the school addressed, our playground equipment fixed so that kids can go down the slide safely, etc.), I'm going to focus on the bigger issues that are actually within the principal's control. Perspective, and some recognition that the thing you think is the biggest deal in the world is probably one of a huge list of things they need to address.

I don't know anyone at my IB title one school who is fighting about trix yogurt etc. This is just a distraction (although I agree that I don't want junk food in school) the "entitled" parents want more music, gym etc for preschoolers, more fundraising, fighting down at city council for money for renovations etc...thats what the entitled parents are fighting for. So OP, you sound pissy cause maybe you were running the show at your underpeforming school, hell maybe you are the principal and now you are put on notice. Get over it or get a new job. You dont' have to thank these parents for doing YOUR job and making the school fucntion better for everyone but at a minimum get the eff out of the way.

I'm not the OP, but a parent at our Title 1 DCPS is fighting over Trix yogurt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

That browbeating someone with "OMG the kids here have it so much worse than YOUR first world problems, you should just shut up" (which is not precisely what was said above, but I think amounts to the same thing) is basically going to drive many (not all, but many) new families away. In the suburbs if they don't want sugary yogurt for their kids, or TV, there is at least a chance they will taken seriously - they may not win, but they won't be guilted into shutting up. There are already enough factors pulling families to the suburbs, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some.

And I find the narrative of misguided, elitist, uncaring, liberal gentrifiers profoundly unhelpful, and unfair to people who are so different, in a good way, from the mass of upper SES parents.

I know there have been some people browbeating about it, but I think the majority of posters are really just suggesting a little humility and to keep things in perspective. Principals, teachers, students and parents at high poverty schools have a lot on their plates. We have a really great principal who is very supportive of things like "no screen time" and "healthy food" but she has a huge job in front of her. It's nice to say that everything deserves some attention, but if I have to choose between my principal focusing on getting Chartwells to remove Trix yogurt from the menu and focusing on the many other issues the school faces (discipline system that needs to be consistently enforced, open houses staffed and outreach done, staffing issues in the school addressed, our playground equipment fixed so that kids can go down the slide safely, etc.), I'm going to focus on the bigger issues that are actually within the principal's control. Perspective, and some recognition that the thing you think is the biggest deal in the world is probably one of a huge list of things they need to address.

I don't know anyone at my IB title one school who is fighting about trix yogurt etc. This is just a distraction (although I agree that I don't want junk food in school) the "entitled" parents want more music, gym etc for preschoolers, more fundraising, fighting down at city council for money for renovations etc...thats what the entitled parents are fighting for. So OP, you sound pissy cause maybe you were running the show at your underpeforming school, hell maybe you are the principal and now you are put on notice. Get over it or get a new job. You dont' have to thank these parents for doing YOUR job and making the school fucntion better for everyone but at a minimum get the eff out of the way.

I'm not the OP, but a parent at our Title 1 DCPS is fighting over Trix yogurt.

I am curious -- what is this parent doing/saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@13:54 - this language is meaningless. What are you really trying to say?

That browbeating someone with "OMG the kids here have it so much worse than YOUR first world problems, you should just shut up" (which is not precisely what was said above, but I think amounts to the same thing) is basically going to drive many (not all, but many) new families away. In the suburbs if they don't want sugary yogurt for their kids, or TV, there is at least a chance they will taken seriously - they may not win, but they won't be guilted into shutting up. There are already enough factors pulling families to the suburbs, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some.

And I find the narrative of misguided, elitist, uncaring, liberal gentrifiers profoundly unhelpful, and unfair to people who are so different, in a good way, from the mass of upper SES parents.

I know there have been some people browbeating about it, but I think the majority of posters are really just suggesting a little humility and to keep things in perspective. Principals, teachers, students and parents at high poverty schools have a lot on their plates. We have a really great principal who is very supportive of things like "no screen time" and "healthy food" but she has a huge job in front of her. It's nice to say that everything deserves some attention, but if I have to choose between my principal focusing on getting Chartwells to remove Trix yogurt from the menu and focusing on the many other issues the school faces (discipline system that needs to be consistently enforced, open houses staffed and outreach done, staffing issues in the school addressed, our playground equipment fixed so that kids can go down the slide safely, etc.), I'm going to focus on the bigger issues that are actually within the principal's control. Perspective, and some recognition that the thing you think is the biggest deal in the world is probably one of a huge list of things they need to address.

I don't know anyone at my IB title one school who is fighting about trix yogurt etc. This is just a distraction (although I agree that I don't want junk food in school) the "entitled" parents want more music, gym etc for preschoolers, more fundraising, fighting down at city council for money for renovations etc...thats what the entitled parents are fighting for. So OP, you sound pissy cause maybe you were running the show at your underpeforming school, hell maybe you are the principal and now you are put on notice. Get over it or get a new job. You dont' have to thank these parents for doing YOUR job and making the school fucntion better for everyone but at a minimum get the eff out of the way.

I'm not the OP, but a parent at our Title 1 DCPS is fighting over Trix yogurt.

Why can't that parent just tell their kid not to eat the trix yogurt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The food quality issue is most important at Title 1 schools. A school is determined to be Title 1 if they have a significant number of students whose families can not afford to feed them. Thus the school takes on the responsibility for ensuring their nutrition. This is one of the most basic wrap around services that there is, and it isn't hard to do. Schools that provide nutritionally unsound choices are failing the students, both in terms of their nutrition and their nutritional education. These are fundamental responsibilities of Title 1 schools.

Many of the families who need these services are not prepared to stand up for their rights on this. They are, by definition, low income and the vast majority are out working hard to maintain shelter for their families. They have neither the time nor the incentive to stand up for these issues. Many are just happy that there children are not hungry. It is the responsibility of the rest of society to insist that they not just be fed, but be fed in a nutritional way.

+1. We all know that food high in sugar results in hyper behavior that's hard to control. Why give it to kids if all it does is create distractions in the classroom 1/2 hour later? More importantly, school meals are the only meals many of these kids get. Shouldn't one of the highest priorities be making sure these kids get food that will actually help them to thrive, rather than just get them by until they get diabetes?

[Anonymous]

OP - Why did you post on DCUM? You should know that it is not a helpful board.

Parent of kid who has no problem with "Between the Lions" or other educational videos. Parent of a kid that has been fed junk food once a week at some of the elite private school camps attended. Parent of a kid that looked forward to his Friday movie at his upper middle class afterschool care.

[Anonymous]

Is OP posting to the wrong blog? DCUM is not famously full of Title 1 parents complaining about gentrifiers.
Second: OP please talk about what specifically the parents are doing that is annoying. Because I'm sure it is true and its sure to be funny.
We are type B parents who moved from a more Title 1 EOTP school to a more economically advantaged school WOTP and I have noticed a difference but mostly the involvement manifests in a good way. Better options for aftercare enrichment, and no one is holding a gun to our head to force us to buy tickets to the fundraiser...the kind of fundraiser our original school never even tried to put together. It's like that earlier thread, you go from "what's a room parent?" to "OMG did you see the email the room parent sent, I think he/she is coming unraveled."
We get so many emails from our new school/teachers/PTA/Funding Committee that we can't keep up.