Elizabeth Holmes, 30 year old self-made billionaire woman

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find a finger prick worst than a well placed IV? Just my opinion. I hate when they have to squeeze your finger tip!

Non-idea poster here, its not really about the finger prick in my view. You could do an IV and take a fraction of the amount and do all kinds of testing. That would be the beauty of such a technology. How you get the blood could vary, its the quantity that's a game changer.

I don’t get this, really. As long as I’m getting poked with a needle I don’t really care if a few drops or a few vials are taken. It’s the needle going in that is painful.

The only game changing aspect I saw to this theoretical device was the portability. Being able to use it in remote places, or frequently at home if you have some special need.

Yeah, I see your point, but you are looking at it from the consumer vantage point. The problem with diagnostic testing is that the blood has some much stuff on it, protein, fat, etc that interferes with any test you would like to run that large amounts are needed to increase sensitivity for just one DIAGNOSTIC test not a screen. People spends years developing ONE assay. So to have a company come out and say with a drop you can do dozens of tests, is something that immediately attracted my attention because it is something I was working on at the time every day and it was challenging.

The comfort of getting a pin prick is really a side story.

to PPs credit Holmes herself made the pinprick the main story. This is because she was essentially a layperson and had no experience running these tests. she had no idea that this was hard or why it could be hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find a finger prick worst than a well placed IV? Just my opinion. I hate when they have to squeeze your finger tip!

Non-idea poster here, its not really about the finger prick in my view. You could do an IV and take a fraction of the amount and do all kinds of testing. That would be the beauty of such a technology. How you get the blood could vary, its the quantity that's a game changer.

I don’t get this, really. As long as I’m getting poked with a needle I don’t really care if a few drops or a few vials are taken. It’s the needle going in that is painful.

The only game changing aspect I saw to this theoretical device was the portability. Being able to use it in remote places, or frequently at home if you have some special need.

Yeah, I see your point, but you are looking at it from the consumer vantage point. The problem with diagnostic testing is that the blood has some much stuff on it, protein, fat, etc that interferes with any test you would like to run that large amounts are needed to increase sensitivity for just one DIAGNOSTIC test not a screen. People spends years developing ONE assay. So to have a company come out and say with a drop you can do dozens of tests, is something that immediately attracted my attention because it is something I was working on at the time every day and it was challenging.

The comfort of getting a pin prick is really a side story.

I listened to the podcast, and watched both the ABC and HBO docs. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone explain this. Thank you! This is such a simple explanation of the challenge. Why didn’t anyone make this point in the aforementioned stories?

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Anonymous wrote:Great role model for young girls and STEM as there are virtually now STEM founders that are women that make it this big.

Didn't age well...

It's that thinking that made the media overhype her and ignore a hundred red flags.

Right. I wish I could remember her name but their was an older lady in the docu whom Holmes brought the idea too very early and simply said "thats impossible, thats not how it works." And she was right. But Holmes was smart and went to powerful MEN who weren't in the sciences. She left women and scientists out of it while she pretended to be a woman scientist!

I think she was a Stanford medical researcher. You make an excellent point. The men were definitely taken in with her physical presentation and storytelling.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find a finger prick worst than a well placed IV? Just my opinion. I hate when they have to squeeze your finger tip!

Non-idea poster here, its not really about the finger prick in my view. You could do an IV and take a fraction of the amount and do all kinds of testing. That would be the beauty of such a technology. How you get the blood could vary, its the quantity that's a game changer.

I don’t get this, really. As long as I’m getting poked with a needle I don’t really care if a few drops or a few vials are taken. It’s the needle going in that is painful.

The only game changing aspect I saw to this theoretical device was the portability. Being able to use it in remote places, or frequently at home if you have some special need.

Yeah, I see your point, but you are looking at it from the consumer vantage point. The problem with diagnostic testing is that the blood has some much stuff on it, protein, fat, etc that interferes with any test you would like to run that large amounts are needed to increase sensitivity for just one DIAGNOSTIC test not a screen. People spends years developing ONE assay. So to have a company come out and say with a drop you can do dozens of tests, is something that immediately attracted my attention because it is something I was working on at the time every day and it was challenging.

The comfort of getting a pin prick is really a side story.

I listened to the podcast, and watched both the ABC and HBO docs. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone explain this. Thank you! This is such a simple explanation of the challenge. Why didn’t anyone make this point in the aforementioned stories?

Part of the reason why is most reporters and even some scientists don't know this. Many scientists are laser focused on one area and don't know specifics about other areas. If I work on cancer, I may no nothing at all about Diabetes or if I work as a molecular biologist I may no nothing about lab tests.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great role model for young girls and STEM as there are virtually now STEM founders that are women that make it this big.

Didn't age well...

It's that thinking that made the media overhype her and ignore a hundred red flags.

Right. I wish I could remember her name but their was an older lady in the docu whom Holmes brought the idea too very early and simply said "thats impossible, thats not how it works." And she was right. But Holmes was smart and went to powerful MEN who weren't in the sciences. She left women and scientists out of it while she pretended to be a woman scientist!

I think she was a Stanford medical researcher. You make an excellent point. The men were definitely taken in with her physical presentation and storytelling.

Actually, the Stanford medical researcher flat out told her it would not work. She got an Engineering professor to jump on the band wagon who may know very little about blood work.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find a finger prick worst than a well placed IV? Just my opinion. I hate when they have to squeeze your finger tip!

Non-idea poster here, its not really about the finger prick in my view. You could do an IV and take a fraction of the amount and do all kinds of testing. That would be the beauty of such a technology. How you get the blood could vary, its the quantity that's a game changer.

I don’t get this, really. As long as I’m getting poked with a needle I don’t really care if a few drops or a few vials are taken. It’s the needle going in that is painful.

The only game changing aspect I saw to this theoretical device was the portability. Being able to use it in remote places, or frequently at home if you have some special need.

Yeah, I see your point, but you are looking at it from the consumer vantage point. The problem with diagnostic testing is that the blood has some much stuff on it, protein, fat, etc that interferes with any test you would like to run that large amounts are needed to increase sensitivity for just one DIAGNOSTIC test not a screen. People spends years developing ONE assay. So to have a company come out and say with a drop you can do dozens of tests, is something that immediately attracted my attention because it is something I was working on at the time every day and it was challenging.

The comfort of getting a pin prick is really a side story.

I listened to the podcast, and watched both the ABC and HBO docs. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone explain this. Thank you! This is such a simple explanation of the challenge. Why didn’t anyone make this point in the aforementioned stories?

Part of the reason why is most reporters and even some scientists don't know this. Many scientists are laser focused on one area and don't know specifics about other areas. If I work on cancer, I may no nothing at all about Diabetes or if I work as a molecular biologist I may no nothing about lab tests.

ah, but that's because american education allows you to claim a major with about 20% of the classes you would need to pass at a real university. then, you get into a phd program and start publishing research in your first year. no wonder science is screwed up.

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Anonymous wrote:you know what, stfu debbie downer. I'm having a hard time picturing you hand wringing about this over a male CEO.

Not DD but I always roll my eyes at self-made men too, even more so. Rich and male, you have NO roadblocks.

If OP had simply said how innovative and the good mission she was using her talents for, no one would have batted an eye.

she's a female stem entrepreneur - do you realize how rare that is? especially one that has the kind of valuation she's getting?

for all of the whitman's, fiorina's, sandberg's, meyer's - none of them are founders.

All white and privileged backgrounds!

What you are ignoring is that not all white privileged, or otherwise privileged, people use their privilege this way. Yes, their privilege may have made a difference, but in a world of people who mostly do nothing, these people are still extraordinary! If we were talking about Aretha Franklin or LeBron James I think everyone would say the same thing. But right now we're talking about a female STEM superstar.

Hope you realized how asinine you sounded. I hope you realize how this hustler’s white privileged allowed her to game a ton of people , including you.

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Anonymous wrote:There is only one rule to getting rich

- Already being rich

BOOM!
And ever Denteley being a con artist

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Who gets into a relationship with a woman that is currently facing life in prison and is being called the millennial Madoff????? Like she can get engaged within 6 months and I can't find a guy who has been employed full time for majority of his adult life and has good enough credit for his own lease. Wtf.

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Anonymous wrote:Who gets into a relationship with a woman that is currently facing life in prison and is being called the millennial Madoff????? Like she can get engaged within 6 months and I can't find a guy who has been employed full time for majority of his adult life and has good enough credit for his own lease. Wtf.

She can sell her story. She's famous. She's pretty. She's smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find a finger prick worst than a well placed IV? Just my opinion. I hate when they have to squeeze your finger tip!

Non-idea poster here, its not really about the finger prick in my view. You could do an IV and take a fraction of the amount and do all kinds of testing. That would be the beauty of such a technology. How you get the blood could vary, its the quantity that's a game changer.

I don’t get this, really. As long as I’m getting poked with a needle I don’t really care if a few drops or a few vials are taken. It’s the needle going in that is painful.

The only game changing aspect I saw to this theoretical device was the portability. Being able to use it in remote places, or frequently at home if you have some special need.

Yeah, I see your point, but you are looking at it from the consumer vantage point. The problem with diagnostic testing is that the blood has some much stuff on it, protein, fat, etc that interferes with any test you would like to run that large amounts are needed to increase sensitivity for just one DIAGNOSTIC test not a screen. People spends years developing ONE assay. So to have a company come out and say with a drop you can do dozens of tests, is something that immediately attracted my attention because it is something I was working on at the time every day and it was challenging.

The comfort of getting a pin prick is really a side story.

I listened to the podcast, and watched both the ABC and HBO docs. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone explain this. Thank you! This is such a simple explanation of the challenge. Why didn’t anyone make this point in the aforementioned stories?

Part of the reason why is most reporters and even some scientists don't know this. Many scientists are laser focused on one area and don't know specifics about other areas. If I work on cancer, I may no nothing at all about Diabetes or if I work as a molecular biologist I may no nothing about lab tests.

ah, but that's because american education allows you to claim a major with about 20% of the classes you would need to pass at a real university. then, you get into a phd program and start publishing research in your first year. no wonder science is screwed up.

American universities are real universities.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find a finger prick worst than a well placed IV? Just my opinion. I hate when they have to squeeze your finger tip!

Non-idea poster here, its not really about the finger prick in my view. You could do an IV and take a fraction of the amount and do all kinds of testing. That would be the beauty of such a technology. How you get the blood could vary, its the quantity that's a game changer.

I don’t get this, really. As long as I’m getting poked with a needle I don’t really care if a few drops or a few vials are taken. It’s the needle going in that is painful.

The only game changing aspect I saw to this theoretical device was the portability. Being able to use it in remote places, or frequently at home if you have some special need.

Yeah, I see your point, but you are looking at it from the consumer vantage point. The problem with diagnostic testing is that the blood has some much stuff on it, protein, fat, etc that interferes with any test you would like to run that large amounts are needed to increase sensitivity for just one DIAGNOSTIC test not a screen. People spends years developing ONE assay. So to have a company come out and say with a drop you can do dozens of tests, is something that immediately attracted my attention because it is something I was working on at the time every day and it was challenging.

The comfort of getting a pin prick is really a side story.

I listened to the podcast, and watched both the ABC and HBO docs. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone explain this. Thank you! This is such a simple explanation of the challenge. Why didn’t anyone make this point in the aforementioned stories?

Part of the reason why is most reporters and even some scientists don't know this. Many scientists are laser focused on one area and don't know specifics about other areas. If I work on cancer, I may no nothing at all about Diabetes or if I work as a molecular biologist I may no nothing about lab tests.

ah, but that's because american education allows you to claim a major with about 20% of the classes you would need to pass at a real university. then, you get into a phd program and start publishing research in your first year. no wonder science is screwed up.

American universities are real universities.

they are a joke. most graduates wouldn't be able to pass an entrance exam at real schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Who gets into a relationship with a woman that is currently facing life in prison and is being called the millennial Madoff????? Like she can get engaged within 6 months and I can't find a guy who has been employed full time for majority of his adult life and has good enough credit for his own lease. Wtf.

She can sell her story. She's famous. She's pretty. She's smart.

And she’s not engaged to some regular schmuck either, he’s some heir with tons of money.

She must be very charismatic in real life? What I’ve seen of her didn’t impress me too much.

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Anonymous wrote:Who gets into a relationship with a woman that is currently facing life in prison and is being called the millennial Madoff????? Like she can get engaged within 6 months and I can't find a guy who has been employed full time for majority of his adult life and has good enough credit for his own lease. Wtf.

She can sell her story. She's famous. She's pretty. She's smart.

And she’s not engaged to some regular schmuck either, he’s some heir with tons of money.

She must be very charismatic in real life? What I’ve seen of her didn’t impress me too much.

Man, once you’re in you’re in. She’s part of their circle now.

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I just listened to the Drop out and I had no idea that she kept this show running for over a decade with NO product. She even made the Walgreens deal after she repeatedly failed to get the Edison/mini lab up and running/accurate. I get bloodwork every 6 months as ongoing oncology prevention and I can't imagine the pain and fear of a fake reoccurrence scare!!!!!!!