Saying I am a very good soccer player and soccer is my passion is unlikely to earn many points in demonstrating commitment, curiosity and passion for science, technology, engineering or math. That kid probably should go to a high school with a good soccer team rather than TJ. |
Not if the child can demonstrate how he relates his sport to science and is a high achieving student even with all the time spent on the outside activity. A high ability math student is a high ability math student no matter what he or she does after school. And yes, I've known a few kids whose main activity was a non-academic one, went to TJ, did quite well, and went on to top 10 schools, including Ivies. A few are still there and doing fine as far as I can tell: I know that they weren't among the 15% who needed Algebra II help as freshmen. |
How would a kid in middle school relate his sport to science when he hasn't yet taken physics, physiology, anatomy, calculus, statistics, bioinformatics etc. ? |
They don't need to write a thesis, just the child's own perceptions. They are, after all, 12 and 13 year olds. I'm just saying that there is no magic formula of activities that a child needs to do to be accepted at TJ. When a kid really enjoys an activity, they tend to get the most out of it. My own observation is that kids who are excited about whatever activities they choose tend to have a good experience if they end up at TJ. |
I agree that "When a kid really enjoys an activity, they tend to get the most out of it." However, you are being optimistic and giving too much credit to the admissions' committee. The committee has a specific scoring rubric to score the application package including the essay/SIS in a "holistic" manner and each member may have few minutes at most to read/score hundreds of essays/SIS. I don't think the committee members will score an applicant being passionate about 1 sport and someone being passionate and possibly doing well in mathcount, science olympiad and robotics the same way. I think the committee is under an obligation to look for : High ability, aptitude, and interest in math, science, and technology, Intellectual curiosity and self-motivation to pursue scientific research, Desire to be challenged with an extensive curriculum focused in math, science, and technology as well as "diversity in student body" among other things under FCPS 3355.12. |
I am not trying to argue with you, I am just saying that there is no fill-in-the-blank, one-size-fits-all check off list of activities that kids need to do in middle school if they are interested in TJ. I personally know of a about a dozen kids who participated in one very time consuming athletic activity and they had or are having successful high school careers at TJ. I've known kids like this going back to 2002 and a few of them are students there now. They are all outstandingly bright young people who have a strong work ethic and great time management skills because of their athletic participation. Walking in the door at TJ doesn't mean you have to drop all other interests and only engage in math and science activities! |
I think these could possibly be scored the same. The one sport can take up as much and more time as mathcounts, science Olympiad, and robotics. The difference I see is the fact that the activities with more academic content might enhance and reinforce academic achievement at school, thus helping the child to get better grades. So the child might do better at school partly because of his outside activities. On the other hand, a sport can take away from study time. So the kid who achieves highly in school while devoting hours to a sport actually can have a more impressive record when it is fully considered. |
In this country sport is worshiped while academics is not. One of the reasons the public education is doing so poorly compared to other countries. High school's primary mission is to educate students not sport. College's primary mission is to educate not football or basketball. Public education will never improve with this twisted priority and mentality. |
As the old saying goes, the ideal to strive for is, "A sound mind in a sound body." Balance is important and a kid who can excel in more than one area at once will be highly successful, especially at such a demanding high school. |
How ironic though we have a terrible public schools in general and the highest obesity rate of all the developed nations. An uneducated mind in an obese body. |
Of course, not every individual in any culture achieves the ultimate ideals of that culture. Here, we are talking about kids who combine outstanding achievement in both academics and athletics. A TJ student who participates in athletic activities for 12-15 and more hours per week is neither obese nor uneducated. |
| If any TJ parents on here can honestly say their children stated or discussed nothing except for 1 sport the child was passionate about on both the essay and the SIS and was accepted to TJ, please let us know. That would be surprising. |
In the questions relating to outside activities, they ask the kids specifically to answer about just one activity or one accomplishment. My child at TJ and a number of others I know wrote mostly about one specific athletic activity that is highly time consuming. These are kids who are highly academically accomplished, in addition to being very strong athletes. Not all the questions refer to outside activities, some ask about school, also, but even those ask the child to focus the answers on one accomplishment or interest for each question. TJ students have many different interests. The school is not looking for kids who have zero interest in anything outside of math and science. |
Ok, but you are not saying the kids only discussed 1 sport activity. They must have discussed other activities as well. I am not sure why you would want to give the impression all those kids only discussed 1 sport activity and nothing else and were accepted. That is misleading. This is directly from the admissions office website: For the SIS: 3. Think about what you have done to help show that TJHSST is a right fit for you. Remember, TJ is a STEM focused school and the SIS helps us figure out which applicants would be the best fit for the school. Have you shown an interest in science, technology, engineering, or math prior to now? What have you done to pursue that interest? Sample essay prompts: “Please discuss in detail an activity in science, mathematics, or technology in which you have been involved in the 6th, 7th, or 8th grade that has had a significant impact on your interest in science, mathematics, or technology.” “If you could invite three individuals who have had an impact in the fields of mathematics, science, or technology (either present day or in history) to come together for a group discussion with you, whom would you invite? Why would you invite each person? What questions would you ask them?” |
I was discussing the SIS. That first essay prompt could easily be answered by discussing an in-school activity; it does not ask that the activity be an out-of-school one. I do know kids whose only extracurricular was an athletic activity. Obviously these kids were interested in and highly accomplished in math and science at school or else they would not have applied to TJ. There is no need for middle school kids to restrict their outside activities to just math and science. Kids can deeply pursue interests in sports or music or arts outside of school while achieving in math and science at school. Again, TJ kids have many interests in addition to math and science. Of course, they love and are highly accomplished in math and science, but that is not all they do. |