IOWA test results and it's correlation to TJHSST

[Anonymous]

OP here,

Thanks for your input everyone..which brings me to ask another question...

Has anyone else had any experience with a child who placed in geometry in 9th grade? How did they do that year or the rest of the years at TJ?

I would think that if TJ accepted them in the first place it is because they saw that the child could bring something else to the table and didn't base their decision soley on math placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here,

Thanks for your input everyone..which brings me to ask another question...

Has anyone else had any experience with a child who placed in geometry in 9th grade? How did they do that year or the rest of the years at TJ?

I would think that if TJ accepted them in the first place it is because they saw that the child could bring something else to the table and didn't base their decision soley on math placement.

I think your daughter might be able to take Algebra after 7th grade during the summer or if not, take Geometry during the summer after 8th grade and begin with Algebra II as 9th grader.

[Anonymous]

NP here. One of my kids is currently doing Algebra I at home with me as a 5th grader (I come from a family where half the people are mathematicians so it's not a great surprise that one turned out that way) and our middle school just offers the regular Algebra I Honors and Geometry sequence.
I don't plan on asking that she go to the middle school for math as a sixth grader or anything like that.
My question is: does TJ give kids a math placement test to be able to show that they know the material and move on to a higher level class? Do the base high schools?

[Anonymous]

All MS offer Algebra 1 (9th grade math) to the 6th graders who test at 91% or higher on the IOWA and score 500 + on the SOL (7th grade math in 6th grade). If these requirements are not met, then the child will not qualify. Also, just because a child qualifies does not mean that Algebra 1 is the best option. Our DC has met the 1st part (96%), yet the teacher told the class that not all of them should take it, even if they get accepted. She said maybe only 5 of the 67 kids in the center should take it. DC knows of 8 who scored 91% +, may be more, but teachers told kids not to share their scores. Apparently, my DC and friends don't listen very well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All MS offer Algebra 1 (9th grade math) to the 6th graders who test at 91% or higher on the IOWA and score 500 + on the SOL (7th grade math in 6th grade). If these requirements are not met, then the child will not qualify. Also, just because a child qualifies does not mean that Algebra 1 is the best option. Our DC has met the 1st part (96%), yet the teacher told the class that not all of them should take it, even if they get accepted. She said maybe only 5 of the 67 kids in the center should take it. DC knows of 8 who scored 91% +, may be more, but teachers told kids not to share their scores. Apparently, my DC and friends don't listen very well

Only 8 kids out of 67 AAP 6th graders at your center scored >= 91%? That doesn't sound correct. I would have expected that number to be much higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All MS offer Algebra 1 (9th grade math) to the 6th graders who test at 91% or higher on the IOWA and score 500 + on the SOL (7th grade math in 6th grade). If these requirements are not met, then the child will not qualify. Also, just because a child qualifies does not mean that Algebra 1 is the best option. Our DC has met the 1st part (96%), yet the teacher told the class that not all of them should take it, even if they get accepted. She said maybe only 5 of the 67 kids in the center should take it. DC knows of 8 who scored 91% +, may be more, but teachers told kids not to share their scores. Apparently, my DC and friends don't listen very well

Only 8 kids out of 67 AAP 6th graders at your center scored >= 91%? That doesn't sound correct. I would have expected that number to be much higher.

8 that the kid knows of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All MS offer Algebra 1 (9th grade math) to the 6th graders who test at 91% or higher on the IOWA and score 500 + on the SOL (7th grade math in 6th grade). If these requirements are not met, then the child will not qualify. Also, just because a child qualifies does not mean that Algebra 1 is the best option. Our DC has met the 1st part (96%), yet the teacher told the class that not all of them should take it, even if they get accepted. She said maybe only 5 of the 67 kids in the center should take it. DC knows of 8 who scored 91% +, may be more, but teachers told kids not to share their scores. Apparently, my DC and friends don't listen very well

Only 8 kids out of 67 AAP 6th graders at your center scored >= 91%? That doesn't sound correct. I would have expected that number to be much higher.

Do you know how to read? Teacher said that only 8 of the kids would truly enft from Alg 1. My DC knows of 8 kids who scored more than 91%, but she only asked about 12 of her friends.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like an irresponsible thing for a teacher to say. Now the kids are all probably trying to figure out which kids the teacher thinks should take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why bother going to TJ if the student will have the same math sequence as most of the kids at the base school (Geometry, Algebra 2, Pre-calculus, calculus) and won't take any advanced math classes?

Even the Geometry class is MUCH harder than at the base school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here,

Thanks for your input everyone..which brings me to ask another question...

Has anyone else had any experience with a child who placed in geometry in 9th grade? How did they do that year or the rest of the years at TJ?

I would think that if TJ accepted them in the first place it is because they saw that the child could bring something else to the table and didn't base their decision soley on math placement.

I think your daughter might be able to take Algebra after 7th grade during the summer or if not, take Geometry during the summer after 8th grade and begin with Algebra II as 9th grader.

Really, please don't do that. They will get plenty of Math at TJ. I would not have a student take a summer school math course -- much is expected of Algebra II students at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here,

Thanks for your input everyone..which brings me to ask another question...

Has anyone else had any experience with a child who placed in geometry in 9th grade? How did they do that year or the rest of the years at TJ?

I would think that if TJ accepted them in the first place it is because they saw that the child could bring something else to the table and didn't base their decision soley on math placement.

I think your daughter might be able to take Algebra after 7th grade during the summer or if not, take Geometry during the summer after 8th grade and begin with Algebra II as 9th grader.

Really, please don't do that. They will get plenty of Math at TJ. I would not have a student take a summer school math course -- much is expected of Algebra II students at TJ.

Agreed. I think it is a bit silly to have a child take a math summer course prior to getting into TJ. If they have to do that then perhaps TJ isn't the right fit for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like an irresponsible thing for a teacher to say. Now the kids are all probably trying to figure out which kids the teacher thinks should take it.

I agree! I was surprised when my child told me this. I thought, what a thing for a teacher to say. WOW!

Of course, we have told our child that we, as a family, will make the decision, if Algebra 1 is an option, about which class would be best. I will say this...our DC has always scored perfect on the math SOLs (not a big deal) and scored in the 96 percentile on the IOWA. DC doesn't think of math as one of DCs strong subjects and would rather take honors math and not ALG1. When a teacher says this, it makes me think if DC low self-image of math success is a reflection of this type of teacher talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All MS offer Algebra 1 (9th grade math) to the 6th graders who test at 91% or higher on the IOWA and score 500 + on the SOL (7th grade math in 6th grade). If these requirements are not met, then the child will not qualify. Also, just because a child qualifies does not mean that Algebra 1 is the best option. Our DC has met the 1st part (96%), yet the teacher told the class that not all of them should take it, even if they get accepted. She said maybe only 5 of the 67 kids in the center should take it. DC knows of 8 who scored 91% +, may be more, but teachers told kids not to share their scores. Apparently, my DC and friends don't listen very well

Only 8 kids out of 67 AAP 6th graders at your center scored >= 91%? That doesn't sound correct. I would have expected that number to be much higher.

Do you know how to read? Teacher said that only 8 of the kids would truly enft from Alg 1. My DC knows of 8 kids who scored more than 91%, but she only asked about 12 of her friends.

You are the one who stated your kid knew of 8 - perhaps you should not post with very partial, heresay information. While I go off and refresh my "reading skills", please refresh your statistical skills.

[Anonymous]

PP @ 8:08, you are talking about a 5th grader, right? I am wondering if anyone has experience sending their 6th grader to MS to take Alg. 1 Honors and how this worked out (socially and logistically more so than academically). I just wonder if my 6th grader is emotionally able to handle being in the middle school for an hour every day and if this would detract from regular subjects at his base ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP @ 8:08, you are talking about a 5th grader, right? I am wondering if anyone has experience sending their 6th grader to MS to take Alg. 1 Honors and how this worked out (socially and logistically more so than academically). I just wonder if my 6th grader is emotionally able to handle being in the middle school for an hour every day and if this would detract from regular subjects at his base ES.

I'm the PP before 8:08, who was talking about a 5th grader. 8:08 is talking about 6th graders taking the tests to get into Alg. I in 7th.
I don't plan on asking for her to go to the MS in 6th grade precisely for the social and logistical issues you mention. On top of which, at the rate she's going, she would have to be taking geometry in 6th to get any benefit, which would place her with 8th graders. That's out of the question. That's why I wanted to know if you could place out of classes in HS by testing. I think it would be easier to blend in at that point.