DCPS Selective HSs: What to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

This is unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

[Anonymous]

I'm in a STEM field where a good number of my peers come from the kinds of programs you want your kids to get into. The conversations we're having these days are about whether our jobs are going to go away in one year or five. It's going to be a bloodbath, but on the plus side you can at least chill out on the "my kid needs to be doing calculus at 15" stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

This is unacceptable.

And this is why families with top STEM kids leave DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

We are not talking about all schools in the DMV. But the magnets in the burbs offer more advance math courses than Walls which is the DC equivalent. And all the schools outside DC offer your basic AP science courses.

I’m the poster whose friend’s kid was at Langely, not even a magnet school. They offered multivariable and also linear algebra and differential equations. Yes, all 3 courses so had enough students for these classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in a STEM field where a good number of my peers come from the kinds of programs you want your kids to get into. The conversations we're having these days are about whether our jobs are going to go away in one year or five. It's going to be a bloodbath, but on the plus side you can at least chill out on the "my kid needs to be doing calculus at 15" stuff.

+100!! People in this thread don’t know what they are talking about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

We are not talking about all schools in the DMV. But the magnets in the burbs offer more advance math courses than Walls which is the DC equivalent. And all the schools outside DC offer your basic AP science courses.

I’m the poster whose friend’s kid was at Langely, not even a magnet school. They offered multivariable and also linear algebra and differential equations. Yes, all 3 courses so had enough students for these classes.

Of course all those schools offer more classes than Walls -- they are multiple times larger!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

We are not talking about all schools in the DMV. But the magnets in the burbs offer more advance math courses than Walls which is the DC equivalent. And all the schools outside DC offer your basic AP science courses.

I’m the poster whose friend’s kid was at Langely, not even a magnet school. They offered multivariable and also linear algebra and differential equations. Yes, all 3 courses so had enough students for these classes.

Of course all those schools offer more classes than Walls -- they are multiple times larger!!!

I grew up in a city of 3-4 million people with a competitive exam system (in Asia) and even in that environment, which no one should want for their child (it was like climbing an ice wall with only your fingernails and watching your peers fall off as you climbed), we’re talking 10-15 kids tops in 4 years who are going past what would be considered calc BC. And even then, we were specializing (we’re known for producing Algebraists and we sent 1-2 kids to Yale a year to work there).

There’s absolutely nothing like it in the states in public education (GOOD) because there’s not enough kids who can hack it. This idea that there are classrooms full of kids in Arlington trying to parse Lang is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

We are not talking about all schools in the DMV. But the magnets in the burbs offer more advance math courses than Walls which is the DC equivalent. And all the schools outside DC offer your basic AP science courses.

I’m the poster whose friend’s kid was at Langely, not even a magnet school. They offered multivariable and also linear algebra and differential equations. Yes, all 3 courses so had enough students for these classes.

Of course all those schools offer more classes than Walls -- they are multiple times larger!!!

I grew up in a city of 3-4 million people with a competitive exam system (in Asia) and even in that environment, which no one should want for their child (it was like climbing an ice wall with only your fingernails and watching your peers fall off as you climbed), we’re talking 10-15 kids tops in 4 years who are going past what would be considered calc BC. And even then, we were specializing (we’re known for producing Algebraists and we sent 1-2 kids to Yale a year to work there).

There’s absolutely nothing like it in the states in public education (GOOD) because there’s not enough kids who can hack it. This idea that there are classrooms full of kids in Arlington trying to parse Lang is ridiculous.

And there have never been very many jobs or academic paths which rely on it. If you're going to be an academic mathematician, sure. But I know my high school valedictorian who became a physics professor, and he took BC calculus senior year. I have a friend who was tenured at an Ivy in a very mathy field, and he got the additional math he needed after college but before his PhD. Another one I know started at a top CS PhD program and was coming from a liberal arts college which wouldn't have even had four years of math for kids coming in with linear algebra and multivarable. Another MIT grad who got into robots--also did BC senior year. This idea that you're cutting yourself off from top STEM jobs is not true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

We are not talking about all schools in the DMV. But the magnets in the burbs offer more advance math courses than Walls which is the DC equivalent. And all the schools outside DC offer your basic AP science courses.

I’m the poster whose friend’s kid was at Langely, not even a magnet school. They offered multivariable and also linear algebra and differential equations. Yes, all 3 courses so had enough students for these classes.

Of course all those schools offer more classes than Walls -- they are multiple times larger!!!

I grew up in a city of 3-4 million people with a competitive exam system (in Asia) and even in that environment, which no one should want for their child (it was like climbing an ice wall with only your fingernails and watching your peers fall off as you climbed), we’re talking 10-15 kids tops in 4 years who are going past what would be considered calc BC. And even then, we were specializing (we’re known for producing Algebraists and we sent 1-2 kids to Yale a year to work there).

There’s absolutely nothing like it in the states in public education (GOOD) because there’s not enough kids who can hack it. This idea that there are classrooms full of kids in Arlington trying to parse Lang is ridiculous.

And there have never been very many jobs or academic paths which rely on it. If you're going to be an academic mathematician, sure. But I know my high school valedictorian who became a physics professor, and he took BC calculus senior year. I have a friend who was tenured at an Ivy in a very mathy field, and he got the additional math he needed after college but before his PhD. Another one I know started at a top CS PhD program and was coming from a liberal arts college which wouldn't have even had four years of math for kids coming in with linear algebra and multivarable. Another MIT grad who got into robots--also did BC senior year. This idea that you're cutting yourself off from top STEM jobs is not true.

No one is saying anyone is cutting themselves off from STEM jobs or whatever.

But college admissions now is nothing like it was 20 years ago, nothing.

The reality is that majority of kids going into STEM majors at competitive colleges have taken math past Calculus.

[Anonymous]

Even BASIS math only goes to multivariate! So calling walls weak on math because it too only offers up to multivariate is ridiculous. (I am not disagreeing that walls has many flaws - but a lack of challenging math courses is not one of them).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

We are not talking about all schools in the DMV. But the magnets in the burbs offer more advance math courses than Walls which is the DC equivalent. And all the schools outside DC offer your basic AP science courses.

I’m the poster whose friend’s kid was at Langely, not even a magnet school. They offered multivariable and also linear algebra and differential equations. Yes, all 3 courses so had enough students for these classes.

Of course all those schools offer more classes than Walls -- they are multiple times larger!!!

I grew up in a city of 3-4 million people with a competitive exam system (in Asia) and even in that environment, which no one should want for their child (it was like climbing an ice wall with only your fingernails and watching your peers fall off as you climbed), we’re talking 10-15 kids tops in 4 years who are going past what would be considered calc BC. And even then, we were specializing (we’re known for producing Algebraists and we sent 1-2 kids to Yale a year to work there).

There’s absolutely nothing like it in the states in public education (GOOD) because there’s not enough kids who can hack it. This idea that there are classrooms full of kids in Arlington trying to parse Lang is ridiculous.

And there have never been very many jobs or academic paths which rely on it. If you're going to be an academic mathematician, sure. But I know my high school valedictorian who became a physics professor, and he took BC calculus senior year. I have a friend who was tenured at an Ivy in a very mathy field, and he got the additional math he needed after college but before his PhD. Another one I know started at a top CS PhD program and was coming from a liberal arts college which wouldn't have even had four years of math for kids coming in with linear algebra and multivarable. Another MIT grad who got into robots--also did BC senior year. This idea that you're cutting yourself off from top STEM jobs is not true.

No one is saying anyone is cutting themselves off from STEM jobs or whatever.

But college admissions now is nothing like it was 20 years ago, nothing.

The reality is that majority of kids going into STEM majors at competitive colleges have taken math past Calculus.

When SAT scores became optional, it pushed everything else more competitive. Those are back now. But the point isn't just about STEM majors at competitive colleges, it's that there's a lot of movement between groups, there's not just one path to most STEM jobs. If your kid is smart and needs more math, they'll get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What high schools in DCPS offer higher math classes than Walls?

The highest math class offered at the school is Calculus.

No DCPS high school offers any math past Calculus in the whole system which is shocking in this day and age in addition to not offering all the standard AP science classes.

You can do dual enrollment but it is not the same and challenging in regards to coordinating it with full schedule at the school, logistics, etc…

Wait how is dual enrollment not the same? Are you really arguing a high school diff EQ class is better than a dual enrollment diff EQ class at a university? Be serious.

i believe the poster means it's a logistical challenge and a less desirable experience to take it with a bunch of strangers rather than classmates.

This.

First the class is only offered a certain time and day at the college. Then you have to coordinate and fit that into your kids busy school schedule and lots of times it doesn’t work. Then you have to figure out how your kid is going to get to the class and back logistically and in time to the next class at school.

Honestly, most times it won’t work. But let’s not kid ourselves that there are so many kids at Walls who even gets to this advance track. There are not.

Or at any school (other than TJ)! No way there are full classrooms of high school kids taking differential equations (next in sequence after multivariate, right?) all over the DMV. I call bullshit.

We are not talking about all schools in the DMV. But the magnets in the burbs offer more advance math courses than Walls which is the DC equivalent. And all the schools outside DC offer your basic AP science courses.

I’m the poster whose friend’s kid was at Langely, not even a magnet school. They offered multivariable and also linear algebra and differential equations. Yes, all 3 courses so had enough students for these classes.

Of course all those schools offer more classes than Walls -- they are multiple times larger!!!

I grew up in a city of 3-4 million people with a competitive exam system (in Asia) and even in that environment, which no one should want for their child (it was like climbing an ice wall with only your fingernails and watching your peers fall off as you climbed), we’re talking 10-15 kids tops in 4 years who are going past what would be considered calc BC. And even then, we were specializing (we’re known for producing Algebraists and we sent 1-2 kids to Yale a year to work there).

There’s absolutely nothing like it in the states in public education (GOOD) because there’s not enough kids who can hack it. This idea that there are classrooms full of kids in Arlington trying to parse Lang is ridiculous.

And there have never been very many jobs or academic paths which rely on it. If you're going to be an academic mathematician, sure. But I know my high school valedictorian who became a physics professor, and he took BC calculus senior year. I have a friend who was tenured at an Ivy in a very mathy field, and he got the additional math he needed after college but before his PhD. Another one I know started at a top CS PhD program and was coming from a liberal arts college which wouldn't have even had four years of math for kids coming in with linear algebra and multivarable. Another MIT grad who got into robots--also did BC senior year. This idea that you're cutting yourself off from top STEM jobs is not true.

No one is saying anyone is cutting themselves off from STEM jobs or whatever.

But college admissions now is nothing like it was 20 years ago, nothing.

The reality is that majority of kids going into STEM majors at competitive colleges have taken math past Calculus.

When SAT scores became optional, it pushed everything else more competitive. Those are back now. But the point isn't just about STEM majors at competitive colleges, it's that there's a lot of movement between groups, there's not just one path to most STEM jobs. If your kid is smart and needs more math, they'll get it.

The point of this entire threat was to get information about high schools. My conclusion from reading this is that walls is not it for stem kids. Shoot for DCI or Basis. If you can’t get slots there I don’t know what you can do. Best of luck.

The kind of fantasy thinking from PP is just such a laughable about of ridiculous privilege. It’s really a bad situation and I’m embarrassed I put my kids in dcps.