Will Maga just watch the sinking ship or admit they were wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:The incremental slide back to the 70s stagflation since Reagan calls for a reset.

This is a major transition that is actually our only chance for future prosperity


Red pill a day keeps reality away



They really are totally delusional.

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These are the things my MAGA relatives are saying on social media.

1. We knew prices wouldn't come down day 1. We knew it would take time. If you didn't know that then you're an idiot.

2. Through HIM all things are possible. Trust the process and keep the faith. It is always darkest before the dawn. We got this! (Not sure if the HIM is Trump or Jesus, but probably both, let's be honest)

(Typed out exactly as written by my uncle)
3. Yep prices are high as sh*t right now and yeah we prolly are going to go thru a recession but guess what? Not his fault at all and I and millions more get that. He cam in to the worst most f----- up economy since Regan It is going to take a lot to fix this sh*t. He is saving us millions uncovering the fraud and don't forget he donates his entire slary back to the US unlike sleepy FJB who stole stole stole from US and robbed the US blind!

Any MAGA that are deep in the cult will never admit that they were wrong. Those who have admitted to regretting their votes seem to be those who voted partyline because they always vote for a R or young people who voted for Trump because of Palestine.



Why would Republicans admit their vote was wrong? They won! So obviously their vote accomplished what they wanted it to. We're the ones who won't admit to being wrong. Which of our policies have we changed in response to the voters rejection of our platform? None.

We keep telling ourselves that the stock market or federal layoffs or Ukraine funding are the ultimate outcomes of politics, but those are all second derivatives. What matters first is winning and losing elections and being in or out of power. We just got booted out of power. Obviously we are the ones who should admit we were wrong. Something about our policies, personalities, and performance caused us to be rejected by the voters. We should figure out what it was and correct it.


I'm a local professor. I've talked to hundreds of young voters to try to find out what happened, and these are the 2 things I heard from them:
1. Palestine. They wanted a hard stance against Israel and pro-Palestine. They were very put off by Harris' statement “Israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are Hamas,” and believe that Israel did not do that. They think Israel went in like a bull in a china shop and caused as much destruction as possible and it wasn't a fair fight because Israel is so much more powerful than Palestine. They believe Israel used the attack as an excuse to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible not just Hamas.

2. The Harris campaign had a lack of direction. They don't think she had a firm stance on any policies. They do recognize that this was due to the restricted time she had to campaign, but they also believe that she was too meek to take any stances that were anti anything Biden believed or against any policies Biden had made.

People 18-44 overwhelming voted for Harris. However, people 18-25 overwhelming abstained from voting for a POTUS at all. I had 212 students during my Fall 2024 semester. Of those, 191 were registered to vote. Of those 191, only 54 voted for a Presidential candidate (52 Harris, 2 Trump).

I have 220 students for my Spring 2025 semester. 208 are registered voters; 68 voted for Harris; 4 voted for Trump; 1 voted 3rd party, and the other 135 did not cast a vote for a Presidential candidate.

Those are small sample sizes, but if that pattern continues across all campuses, as I believe it does, that is what sunk the Democrats this last go around.



Well, they are the ones who will have to live with the repercussions of electing Trump after the older people are gone. So I hope they are happy with what they did.


The failure lies with the party. Their job is to win votes. They failed to do so, and the youth vote was very clear what it would take. The party chose not to listen. The party got Trump elected. And the party will continue to lose until it decides it wants to win votes again.


“Be nice to us, or we will go to the people who make our lives materially worse”
Whatevs…


It's not about being "nice." It's about the fact that we vote for people to REPRESENT us. Meaning they are supposed to act in our name and do what WE WANT. If the voters are saying they want something from their elected representatives, and those representatives ignore them, it should surprise no one that those voters choose not to vote for those representatives. Why does the democratic party and so many on DCUM not understand that?

If you want the youth vote, you have to listen to their concerns. If you dismiss their concerns, they won't vote for you. End of story.


Hey dumbass. It’s been shown time and again that the democrats have the more popular platform.


Go to a flyover state and survey some swing voters. Ask them how they liked the Democratic Party platform on illegal immigration, on DEI quotas preventing white men from getting hired or promoted, on trans folks in girls' sports, on LGBTQIA+ sex ed in elementary schools, on deficit spending, on endless wars, etc.

Democrats quite obviously REFUSE to change policies, even when they are unpopular.


I live in a flyover state you pretentious twat.


Democrats are so insulting to voters these days. It's amazing. It reminds me of narcissistic rage. Democrats are so sure that they are the most intelligent and moral people in the country. Their self-regard is their religion. So when the voters reject that premise and say no, we don't consider you particularly intelligent or moral, it shocks and enrages them. And they just start lashing out. Everyone is a stupid racist cult member. Or a pretentious twat!


Gosh, it’s almost like there’s a predictable pattern where you caricature and insult Democrats, they respond, and then you get to accuse them of “lashing out” and feel all self-righteous. That’s a familiar pattern to anyone who’s ever been in an abusive relationship. It’s why two thirds of eligible voters did not vote for MAGA.

You deserved every bit of that insult for your failure to understand the difference between a majority and a plurality, and your failure to understand that 48.6% does not constitute a mandate.

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These are the things my MAGA relatives are saying on social media.

1. We knew prices wouldn't come down day 1. We knew it would take time. If
you didn't know that then you're an idiot.

2. Through HIM all things are possible. Trust the process and keep the faith. It is always darkest before the dawn. We got this! (Not sure if the HIM is Trump or Jesus, but probably both, let's be honest)

(Typed out exactly as written by my uncle)
3. Yep prices are high as sh*t right now and yeah we prolly are going to go thru a recession but guess what? Not his fault at all and I and millions more get that. He cam in to the worst most f----- up economy since Regan It is going to take a lot to fix this sh*t. He is saving us millions uncovering the fraud and don't forget he donates his entire slary back to the US unlike sleepy FJB who stole stole stole from US and robbed the US blind!

Any MAGA that are deep in the cult will never admit that they were wrong. Those who have admitted to regretting their votes seem to be those who voted partyline because they always vote for a R or young people who voted for Trump because of Palestine.



Why would Republicans admit their vote was wrong? They won! So obviously their vote accomplished what they wanted it to. We're the ones who won't admit to being wrong. Which of our policies have we changed in response to the voters rejection of our platform? None.

We keep telling ourselves that the stock market or federal layoffs or Ukraine funding are the ultimate outcomes of politics, but those are all second derivatives. What matters first is winning and losing elections and being in or out of power. We just got booted out of power. Obviously we are the ones who should admit we were wrong. Something about our policies, personalities, and performance caused us to be rejected by the voters. We should figure out what it was and correct it.


I'm a local professor. I've talked to hundreds of young voters to try to find out what happened, and these are the 2 things I heard from them:
1. Palestine. They wanted a hard stance against Israel and pro-Palestine. They were very put off by Harris' statement “Israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are Hamas,” and believe that Israel did not do that. They think Israel went in like a bull in a china shop and caused as much destruction as possible and it wasn't a fair fight because Israel is so much more powerful than Palestine. They believe Israel used the attack as an excuse to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible not just Hamas.

2. The Harris campaign had a lack of direction. They don't think she had a firm stance on any policies. They do recognize that this was due to the restricted time she had to campaign, but they also believe that she was too meek to take any stances that were anti anything Biden believed or against any policies Biden had made.

People 18-44 overwhelming voted for Harris. However, people 18-25 overwhelming abstained from voting for a POTUS at all. I had 212 students during my Fall 2024 semester. Of those, 191 were registered to vote. Of those 191, only 54 voted for a Presidential candidate (52 Harris, 2 Trump).

I have 220 students for my Spring 2025 semester. 208 are registered voters; 68 voted for Harris; 4 voted for Trump; 1 voted 3rd party, and the other 135 did not cast a vote for a Presidential candidate.

Those are small sample sizes, but if that pattern continues across all campuses, as I believe it does, that is what sunk the Democrats this last go around.



Well, they are the ones who will have to live with the repercussions of electing Trump after the older people are gone. So I hope they are happy with what they did.


The failure lies with the party. Their job is to win votes. They failed to do so, and the youth vote was very clear what it would take. The party chose not to listen. The party got Trump elected. And the party will continue to lose until it decides it wants to win votes again.


No, the Dems didn’t fail. Elon bought the election and childish college students (and Michigan) took a misguided “stand on Israel.”

Now, Trump is posting videos of him and Netanyahu sunbathing on a rebuilt Gaza beach with Trump Towers in the background. I hope all those kids are happy with their protest vote. I’m sure the people of Gaza really appreciate their moral outrage.

I’m so over people not voting in their own interests that I don’t care if the Dems ever get back in. I’m going to be fine. Let these kids FAFO. I hope R’s take away all their student loans.


exactly. That is what gets so mired with all the chaos that is happening. The Democrats didn’t mess anything up with their campaign. Elon paid for the results of the selection. So much disinformation across all kinds of social media platforms. Trump never had a plan for any of the problems that people were complaining about prior to the election. and Trump didn’t even get 50% of the popular vote.


Seriously? How blind can you be?

The professor's post was spot on.

All Harris had to do was say that Israel needed more accountability for their actions. Quite simple.
On this front, I'm disappointed by both parties - neither has the guts to stand up to Israel.


She did. But maybe you get your news from Tik Tok?

Very early on in her three month campaign, she reprimanded Israel.


Yes, Harris did. She also had actual plans for dealing with the economy and social issues. You never listened.


Or...stay with me now...we disagreed with her and thus did not vote for her. Democrats desperately need to let go of the idea that they are entitled to people's votes. You aren't. You have to convince people to vote for you. You failed to do so. This is why you lost. There's no other reason. Your platform and your candidate failed to win the most votes. The whole bully and shame people into voting D doesn't work. Try a new strategy. Maybe listening to what people say they want.


Swing voters and independent voters want a better economy. Trump and the GOP have, and will continue to, completely fail here.


And democrats failed before them. The "economy" is completely divorced from what the average person experiences and cares about. People couldn't afford groceries, and the Dems hand waived their concerns away. Trump won't fix it, but people really had no good choices. From their perspective Trump is entertaining, and he says things that make them *feel* good. People will retreat into reactionary politics if their material needs are not being met. That's how fascists always rise.


That’s also how the communists rise. I think there are a lot more people that would prefer to see Musk’s head roll and his assets expropriated than would prefer to see him run the country.


One can only hope.
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Anonymous wrote:Never.

These are the things my MAGA relatives are saying on social media.

1. We knew prices wouldn't come down day 1. We knew it would take time. If you didn't know that then you're an idiot.

2. Through HIM all things are possible. Trust the process and keep the faith. It is always darkest before the dawn. We got this! (Not sure if the HIM is Trump or Jesus, but probably both, let's be honest)

(Typed out exactly as written by my uncle)
3. Yep prices are high as sh*t right now and yeah we prolly are going to go thru a recession but guess what? Not his fault at all and I and millions more get that. He cam in to the worst most f----- up economy since Regan It is going to take a lot to fix this sh*t. He is saving us millions uncovering the fraud and don't forget he donates his entire slary back to the US unlike sleepy FJB who stole stole stole from US and robbed the US blind!

Any MAGA that are deep in the cult will never admit that they were wrong. Those who have admitted to regretting their votes seem to be those who voted partyline because they always vote for a R or young people who voted for Trump because of Palestine.



Why would Republicans admit their vote was wrong? They won! So obviously their vote accomplished what they wanted it to. We're the ones who won't admit to being wrong. Which of our policies have we changed in response to the voters rejection of our platform? None.

We keep telling ourselves that the stock market or federal layoffs or Ukraine funding are the ultimate outcomes of politics, but those are all second derivatives. What matters first is winning and losing elections and being in or out of power. We just got booted out of power. Obviously we are the ones who should admit we were wrong. Something about our policies, personalities, and performance caused us to be rejected by the voters. We should figure out what it was and correct it.


I'm a local professor. I've talked to hundreds of young voters to try to find out what happened, and these are the 2 things I heard from them:
1. Palestine. They wanted a hard stance against Israel and pro-Palestine. They were very put off by Harris' statement “Israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are Hamas,” and believe that Israel did not do that. They think Israel went in like a bull in a china shop and caused as much destruction as possible and it wasn't a fair fight because Israel is so much more powerful than Palestine. They believe Israel used the attack as an excuse to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible not just Hamas.

2. The Harris campaign had a lack of direction. They don't think she had a firm stance on any policies. They do recognize that this was due to the restricted time she had to campaign, but they also believe that she was too meek to take any stances that were anti anything Biden believed or against any policies Biden had made.

People 18-44 overwhelming voted for Harris. However, people 18-25 overwhelming abstained from voting for a POTUS at all. I had 212 students during my Fall 2024 semester. Of those, 191 were registered to vote. Of those 191, only 54 voted for a Presidential candidate (52 Harris, 2 Trump).

I have 220 students for my Spring 2025 semester. 208 are registered voters; 68 voted for Harris; 4 voted for Trump; 1 voted 3rd party, and the other 135 did not cast a vote for a Presidential candidate.

Those are small sample sizes, but if that pattern continues across all campuses, as I believe it does, that is what sunk the Democrats this last go around.



Well, they are the ones who will have to live with the repercussions of electing Trump after the older people are gone. So I hope they are happy with what they did.


The failure lies with the party. Their job is to win votes. They failed to do so, and the youth vote was very clear what it would take. The party chose not to listen. The party got Trump elected. And the party will continue to lose until it decides it wants to win votes again.


“Be nice to us, or we will go to the people who make our lives materially worse”
Whatevs…


It's not about being "nice." It's about the fact that we vote for people to REPRESENT us. Meaning they are supposed to act in our name and do what WE WANT. If the voters are saying they want something from their elected representatives, and those representatives ignore them, it should surprise no one that those voters choose not to vote for those representatives. Why does the democratic party and so many on DCUM not understand that?

If you want the youth vote, you have to listen to their concerns. If you dismiss their concerns, they won't vote for you. End of story.


Hey dumbass. It’s been shown time and again that the democrats have the more popular platform.


Go to a flyover state and survey some swing voters. Ask them how they liked the Democratic Party platform on illegal immigration, on DEI quotas preventing white men from getting hired or promoted, on trans folks in girls' sports, on LGBTQIA+ sex ed in elementary schools, on deficit spending, on endless wars, etc.

Democrats quite obviously REFUSE to change policies, even when they are unpopular.


I live in a flyover state you pretentious twat.


Democrats are so insulting to voters these days. It's amazing. It reminds me of narcissistic rage. Democrats are so sure that they are the most intelligent and moral people in the country. Their self-regard is their religion. So when the voters reject that premise and say no, we don't consider you particularly intelligent or moral, it shocks and enrages them. And they just start lashing out. Everyone is a stupid racist cult member. Or a pretentious twat!


“ why don’t you listen to me. I’ll tell you what real Americans think. And don’t you dare call me a name and make me sad. I’m super smart and educated.” - typed from Bethesda.
You are a pretentious twat.


+1000000 The condescension and gloating are so creepy. It’s so obvious this poster is a MAGA troll pretending to be a Democrat.

Hundreds of posts on threads throughout this forum trying to pass off trivial Republican culture war obsessions as the official Democratic platform, and then lecturing all of us about how “we” live in a bubble. This person is not well.
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Anonymous wrote:Never.

These are the things my MAGA relatives are saying on social media.

1. We knew prices wouldn't come down day 1. We knew it would take time. If you didn't know that then you're an idiot.

2. Through HIM all things are possible. Trust the process and keep the faith. It is always darkest before the dawn. We got this! (Not sure if the HIM is Trump or Jesus, but probably both, let's be honest)

(Typed out exactly as written by my uncle)
3. Yep prices are high as sh*t right now and yeah we prolly are going to go thru a recession but guess what? Not his fault at all and I and millions more get that. He cam in to the worst most f----- up economy since Regan It is going to take a lot to fix this sh*t. He is saving us millions uncovering the fraud and don't forget he donates his entire slary back to the US unlike sleepy FJB who stole stole stole from US and robbed the US blind!

Any MAGA that are deep in the cult will never admit that they were wrong. Those who have admitted to regretting their votes seem to be those who voted partyline because they always vote for a R or young people who voted for Trump because of Palestine.



Why would Republicans admit their vote was wrong? They won! So obviously their vote accomplished what they wanted it to. We're the ones who won't admit to being wrong. Which of our policies have we changed in response to the voters rejection of our platform? None.

We keep telling ourselves that the stock market or federal layoffs or Ukraine funding are the ultimate outcomes of politics, but those are all second derivatives. What matters first is winning and losing elections and being in or out of power. We just got booted out of power. Obviously we are the ones who should admit we were wrong. Something about our policies, personalities, and performance caused us to be rejected by the voters. We should figure out what it was and correct it.


I'm a local professor. I've talked to hundreds of young voters to try to find out what happened, and these are the 2 things I heard from them:
1. Palestine. They wanted a hard stance against Israel and pro-Palestine. They were very put off by Harris' statement “Israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are Hamas,” and believe that Israel did not do that. They think Israel went in like a bull in a china shop and caused as much destruction as possible and it wasn't a fair fight because Israel is so much more powerful than Palestine. They believe Israel used the attack as an excuse to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible not just Hamas.

2. The Harris campaign had a lack of direction. They don't think she had a firm stance on any policies. They do recognize that this was due to the restricted time she had to campaign, but they also believe that she was too meek to take any stances that were anti anything Biden believed or against any policies Biden had made.

People 18-44 overwhelming voted for Harris. However, people 18-25 overwhelming abstained from voting for a POTUS at all. I had 212 students during my Fall 2024 semester. Of those, 191 were registered to vote. Of those 191, only 54 voted for a Presidential candidate (52 Harris, 2 Trump).

I have 220 students for my Spring 2025 semester. 208 are registered voters; 68 voted for Harris; 4 voted for Trump; 1 voted 3rd party, and the other 135 did not cast a vote for a Presidential candidate.

Those are small sample sizes, but if that pattern continues across all campuses, as I believe it does, that is what sunk the Democrats this last go around.



Well, they are the ones who will have to live with the repercussions of electing Trump after the older people are gone. So I hope they are happy with what they did.


The failure lies with the party. Their job is to win votes. They failed to do so, and the youth vote was very clear what it would take. The party chose not to listen. The party got Trump elected. And the party will continue to lose until it decides it wants to win votes again.


“Be nice to us, or we will go to the people who make our lives materially worse”
Whatevs…


It's not about being "nice." It's about the fact that we vote for people to REPRESENT us. Meaning they are supposed to act in our name and do what WE WANT. If the voters are saying they want something from their elected representatives, and those representatives ignore them, it should surprise no one that those voters choose not to vote for those representatives. Why does the democratic party and so many on DCUM not understand that?

If you want the youth vote, you have to listen to their concerns. If you dismiss their concerns, they won't vote for you. End of story.


Hey dumbass. It’s been shown time and again that the democrats have the more popular platform.


Go to a flyover state and survey some swing voters. Ask them how they liked the Democratic Party platform on illegal immigration, on DEI quotas preventing white men from getting hired or promoted, on trans folks in girls' sports, on LGBTQIA+ sex ed in elementary schools, on deficit spending, on endless wars, etc.

Democrats quite obviously REFUSE to change policies, even when they are unpopular.


I live in a flyover state you pretentious twat.


Democrats are so insulting to voters these days. It's amazing. It reminds me of narcissistic rage. Democrats are so sure that they are the most intelligent and moral people in the country. Their self-regard is their religion. So when the voters reject that premise and say no, we don't consider you particularly intelligent or moral, it shocks and enrages them. And they just start lashing out. Everyone is a stupid racist cult member. Or a pretentious twat!


“ why don’t you listen to me. I’ll tell you what real Americans think. And don’t you dare call me a name and make me sad. I’m super smart and educated.” - typed from Bethesda.
You are a pretentious twat.


+1000000 The condescension and gloating are so creepy. It’s so obvious this poster is a MAGA troll pretending to be a Democrat.

Hundreds of posts on threads throughout this forum trying to pass off trivial Republican culture war obsessions as the official Democratic platform, and then lecturing all of us about how “we” live in a bubble. This person is not well.


There is one particular poster running around claiming to be a democrat but then posts these screeds about how everyone hates democrats; democrats are to blame for all past, present, and future ills; democrats will lose again because we are too obsessed with identity wars (usually inserting them into a discussion that has nothing to do with them nor has anyone talked about them). It's truly bizarre.
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Sinking ship? Gas prices dropping. Inflation dropping. Peace coming to Russia-Ukraine. Federal government waste being eliminated.

I don't know what reality you lefties are living in but the country is moving on from the putrid stain that was the Biden-Harris administration and we're much better for it.


MAGA


It's way too soon to declare victory. Peace is not coming to Ukraine/Russia for a long, long time. People don't forget when hundreds of thousands have died and their country is destroyed. Ukraine will never trust Russia. For that matter neither will Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, etc. Russia and the word "peace" don't go together.


Babe, it’s so much worse. They aren’t going to forget what WE’VE done. They are never going to trust US again. We are so effed.


+1. The first Trump adm was considered a fluke, a protest vote that somehow won. With Trump elected again even after the s$itshow of his first term and his attempt to overthrow the 2020 election, it is clear it is no longer w fluke and now see how he is coming hard for US best allies, while cozing up to Putin. This is a sysmic shift. In Europe there are talks on whether US weapons could be “turned off” by the US in case or Russian attacks. Germany is seriously rearming for the first time since 1945 and Europe is discussing riarming with European weapons, independently from the US. Canadians now see the US as aj existential threat to their country’s existence. I mean, this is a gigantic shift from 80 years of American leadership. The US will obviously pay.
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Democrats are so smug and self-righteous that they don't even understand their own policy platform. During the election, many Democrats told me that they didn't know a single Democrat who wasn't in favor of strong borders.

Huh. They must never have heard of the Biden administration or the sanctuary city mayors.

Dems keep insisting that they don't care about trans athletes, that it's an unimportant issue. Well, 100% of Senate Dems just voted to keep male athletes on girls' sports teams.

The platform is unpopular with voters. That's why Dems lost. Sure, Kamala is not that likeable, but then again neither is Trump. Look at the policies!

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Anonymous wrote:Never.

These are the things my MAGA relatives are saying on social media.

1. We knew prices wouldn't come down day 1. We knew it would take time. If you didn't know that then you're an idiot.

2. Through HIM all things are possible. Trust the process and keep the faith. It is always darkest before the dawn. We got this! (Not sure if the HIM is Trump or Jesus, but probably both, let's be honest)

(Typed out exactly as written by my uncle)
3. Yep prices are high as sh*t right now and yeah we prolly are going to go thru a recession but guess what? Not his fault at all and I and millions more get that. He cam in to the worst most f----- up economy since Regan It is going to take a lot to fix this sh*t. He is saving us millions uncovering the fraud and don't forget he donates his entire slary back to the US unlike sleepy FJB who stole stole stole from US and robbed the US blind!

Any MAGA that are deep in the cult will never admit that they were wrong. Those who have admitted to regretting their votes seem to be those who voted partyline because they always vote for a R or young people who voted for Trump because of Palestine.



Why would Republicans admit their vote was wrong? They won! So obviously their vote accomplished what they wanted it to. We're the ones who won't admit to being wrong. Which of our policies have we changed in response to the voters rejection of our platform? None.

We keep telling ourselves that the stock market or federal layoffs or Ukraine funding are the ultimate outcomes of politics, but those are all second derivatives. What matters first is winning and losing elections and being in or out of power. We just got booted out of power. Obviously we are the ones who should admit we were wrong. Something about our policies, personalities, and performance caused us to be rejected by the voters. We should figure out what it was and correct it.


I'm a local professor. I've talked to hundreds of young voters to try to find out what happened, and these are the 2 things I heard from them:
1. Palestine. They wanted a hard stance against Israel and pro-Palestine. They were very put off by Harris' statement “Israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are Hamas,” and believe that Israel did not do that. They think Israel went in like a bull in a china shop and caused as much destruction as possible and it wasn't a fair fight because Israel is so much more powerful than Palestine. They believe Israel used the attack as an excuse to eliminate as many Palestinians as possible not just Hamas.

2. The Harris campaign had a lack of direction. They don't think she had a firm stance on any policies. They do recognize that this was due to the restricted time she had to campaign, but they also believe that she was too meek to take any stances that were anti anything Biden believed or against any policies Biden had made.

People 18-44 overwhelming voted for Harris. However, people 18-25 overwhelming abstained from voting for a POTUS at all. I had 212 students during my Fall 2024 semester. Of those, 191 were registered to vote. Of those 191, only 54 voted for a Presidential candidate (52 Harris, 2 Trump).

I have 220 students for my Spring 2025 semester. 208 are registered voters; 68 voted for Harris; 4 voted for Trump; 1 voted 3rd party, and the other 135 did not cast a vote for a Presidential candidate.

Those are small sample sizes, but if that pattern continues across all campuses, as I believe it does, that is what sunk the Democrats this last go around.



Well, they are the ones who will have to live with the repercussions of electing Trump after the older people are gone. So I hope they are happy with what they did.


The failure lies with the party. Their job is to win votes. They failed to do so, and the youth vote was very clear what it would take. The party chose not to listen. The party got Trump elected. And the party will continue to lose until it decides it wants to win votes again.


No, the Dems didn’t fail. Elon bought the election and childish college students (and Michigan) took a misguided “stand on Israel.”

Now, Trump is posting videos of him and Netanyahu sunbathing on a rebuilt Gaza beach with Trump Towers in the background. I hope all those kids are happy with their protest vote. I’m sure the people of Gaza really appreciate their moral outrage.

I’m so over people not voting in their own interests that I don’t care if the Dems ever get back in. I’m going to be fine. Let these kids FAFO. I hope R’s take away all their student loans.


We live in the stupidest timeline and I feel for our children. MAGAs who are fake christians in all that they do will throw a match to this sinking ship. They care about no one except their fake god dumpy.


We would think more clearly if we stopped talking about "MAGA." We've kind of hypnotized ourselves into this false belief that democracy has been hijacked by a few bad apple racist rednecks.

What actually happened is that the entire electorate shifted right. In spite of all of Trump's faults, in spite of all the warnings from media and academia and establishment politicians, the voters decided that the Democrats were so unappealing that they'd rather have Trump.

The people who rejected us weren't MAGA--MAGA was never with us. The people who rejected us were non-MAGA Republicans, Independents, Swing Voters, and Disaffected Democrats. We keep lumping them in with "MAGA," and calling them all stupid.

We are literally deaf and blind to the message the voters sent to us. I haven't seen a single post from a Democrat wondering how an Obama voter or a Biden voter could have possibly voted for Trump this time. Guess what? Many did. If we can't explain that or even wonder about it, we're screwed going forward.


No. Thousands of independents (me) and moderate democrats simply abstained from voting for a president.

I will never vote for Trump.
Harris was a joke.

I voted in Loudoun for my local election and policies that were up for a vote and skipped the presidential pick.

I consider myself an independent because I like bits and pieces of each party. I want immigration reform. I want Medicaid and EBT reform. I am part of the LGBTQ and want gay marriage to stay legal. I am all for trans rights. I think inflation needed a correction. I do not support tariffs. Etc etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are so smug and self-righteous that they don't even understand their own policy platform. During the election, many Democrats told me that they didn't know a single Democrat who wasn't in favor of strong borders.

Huh. They must never have heard of the Biden administration or the sanctuary city mayors.

Dems keep insisting that they don't care about trans athletes, that it's an unimportant issue. Well, 100% of Senate Dems just voted to keep male athletes on girls' sports teams.

The platform is unpopular with voters. That's why Dems lost. Sure, Kamala is not that likeable, but then again neither is Trump. Look at the policies!



HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW DEMOCRATS??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inflation down
Price of eggs down
Energy price down
Interest rates down

MAGA taking victory lap.


Is this sarcasm? If not, I have bad news for you.


The price of eggs isn't down. I paid $6.29 on Friday and Aldi and just paid $6.59 this morning at Aldi.

The only price that is down is gas. I paid $3.09 last week and paid $2.85 yesterday.

Other than gas, everything else still has a high price tag. And the products are shrinking. I noticed the bottle of juice I usually grab at the bodega in the bottom of my office building increased by $0.50 and the size shrunk from 12 floz to 10 floz. The box of pasta I always buy shrank from 16 oz to 12 oz. And I don't know what they're doing to ground beef, but 1 lb of it is not the same as it was months ago after cooking. Recipes I've made for years are now coming out wonky with not enough meat/portions for my family of 4 despite the package indicating 1.3 lbs or 1.5 lbs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are so smug and self-righteous that they don't even understand their own policy platform. During the election, many Democrats told me that they didn't know a single Democrat who wasn't in favor of strong borders.

Huh. They must never have heard of the Biden administration or the sanctuary city mayors.

Dems keep insisting that they don't care about trans athletes, that it's an unimportant issue. Well, 100% of Senate Dems just voted to keep male athletes on girls' sports teams.

The platform is unpopular with voters. That's why Dems lost. Sure, Kamala is not that likeable, but then again neither is Trump. Look at the policies!



it wasn't the democrats who tanked the last 4 attempts at border control and immigration reform bills. You are being lied to again and again and again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are so smug and self-righteous that they don't even understand their own policy platform. During the election, many Democrats told me that they didn't know a single Democrat who wasn't in favor of strong borders.

Huh. They must never have heard of the Biden administration or the sanctuary city mayors.

Dems keep insisting that they don't care about trans athletes, that it's an unimportant issue. Well, 100% of Senate Dems just voted to keep male athletes on girls' sports teams.

The platform is unpopular with voters. That's why Dems lost. Sure, Kamala is not that likeable, but then again neither is Trump. Look at the policies!



Do a little bit of Googling, bro. Biden deported more illegals during his 4 years than Trump did in 2016-2020.

Here, I'll help you:
https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-deportations-removals-trump-biden-obama-compared-chart-2026835

and

https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/immigration-enforcement/immigration-enforcement-and-legal-processes-monthly

and

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

Trump's highest month of deportations was July 2020 with 91,120
Biden's highest month of deportations was March 2022 with 147,080
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are so smug and self-righteous that they don't even understand their own policy platform. During the election, many Democrats told me that they didn't know a single Democrat who wasn't in favor of strong borders.

Huh. They must never have heard of the Biden administration or the sanctuary city mayors.

Dems keep insisting that they don't care about trans athletes, that it's an unimportant issue. Well, 100% of Senate Dems just voted to keep male athletes on girls' sports teams.

The platform is unpopular with voters. That's why Dems lost. Sure, Kamala is not that likeable, but then again neither is Trump. Look at the policies!



Do a little bit of Googling, bro. Biden deported more illegals during his 4 years than Trump did in 2016-2020.

Here, I'll help you:
https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-deportations-removals-trump-biden-obama-compared-chart-2026835

and

https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/immigration-enforcement/immigration-enforcement-and-legal-processes-monthly

and

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

Trump's highest month of deportations was July 2020 with 91,120
Biden's highest month of deportations was March 2022 with 147,080


Then you'll be happy to see Trump deport more people, right?
Trump is struggling to reach the numbers of the great magnificent Biden!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inflation down
Price of eggs down
Energy price down
Interest rates down

MAGA taking victory lap.


Is this sarcasm? If not, I have bad news for you.


The price of eggs isn't down. I paid $6.29 on Friday and Aldi and just paid $6.59 this morning at Aldi.

The only price that is down is gas. I paid $3.09 last week and paid $2.85 yesterday.

Other than gas, everything else still has a high price tag. And the products are shrinking. I noticed the bottle of juice I usually grab at the bodega in the bottom of my office building increased by $0.50 and the size shrunk from 12 floz to 10 floz. The box of pasta I always buy shrank from 16 oz to 12 oz. And I don't know what they're doing to ground beef, but 1 lb of it is not the same as it was months ago after cooking. Recipes I've made for years are now coming out wonky with not enough meat/portions for my family of 4 despite the package indicating 1.3 lbs or 1.5 lbs.


I'm paying less than that for organic large brown eggs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are so smug and self-righteous that they don't even understand their own policy platform. During the election, many Democrats told me that they didn't know a single Democrat who wasn't in favor of strong borders.

Huh. They must never have heard of the Biden administration or the sanctuary city mayors.

Dems keep insisting that they don't care about trans athletes, that it's an unimportant issue. Well, 100% of Senate Dems just voted to keep male athletes on girls' sports teams.

The platform is unpopular with voters. That's why Dems lost. Sure, Kamala is not that likeable, but then again neither is Trump. Look at the policies!



Do a little bit of Googling, bro. Biden deported more illegals during his 4 years than Trump did in 2016-2020.

Here, I'll help you:
https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-deportations-removals-trump-biden-obama-compared-chart-2026835

and

https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/immigration-enforcement/immigration-enforcement-and-legal-processes-monthly

and

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

Trump's highest month of deportations was July 2020 with 91,120
Biden's highest month of deportations was March 2022 with 147,080


Then you'll be happy to see Trump deport more people, right?
Trump is struggling to reach the numbers of the great magnificent Biden!


No one is disputing that people who are in the US illegally, and particularly committing crimes, should be deported. It was a gaslight strategy to paint the Dems like this, and sadly on the rubes, it worked like a charm.
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