Executive Order on RIFs coming today

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This EO will be caught in lawsuits like all of them. What I want to know is if they want to make cuts why not go through the regular/legal channels. They have both houses of Congress - and Congress can authorize RIFs. Why aren't they doing that?


Because they are both ignorant and stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This EO will be caught in lawsuits like all of them. What I want to know is if they want to make cuts why not go through the regular/legal channels. They have both houses of Congress - and Congress can authorize RIFs. Why aren't they doing that?


They don’t want to work with Congress. It’s a power grab.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This EO will be caught in lawsuits like all of them. What I want to know is if they want to make cuts why not go through the regular/legal channels. They have both houses of Congress - and Congress can authorize RIFs. Why aren't they doing that?


They don’t want to work with Congress. It’s a power grab.


Trump is trying to go through Congress, which would be scary if he had enough votes to push this through, otherwise it will be stalled in the courts
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This EO will be caught in lawsuits like all of them. What I want to know is if they want to make cuts why not go through the regular/legal channels. They have both houses of Congress - and Congress can authorize RIFs. Why aren't they doing that?


They don’t want to work with Congress. It’s a power grab.


Trump is trying to go through Congress, which would be scary if he had enough votes to push this through, otherwise it will be stalled in the courts


You mean bypass Congress, right?
Anonymous
They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.


Well the folks they have running the show right now trying to do the RIFs are a model of inefficiency. Maybe they could just try following the rules?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.

The number of federal employees is the same as it was 50 years ago. RIFs are not the solution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.


I doubt there is any more bloat in the Federal Government than any other large corporation. Feds are essentially doing what Congress (and the Prez) wants us to do. Are there programs that are legacy and could be retired? Sure. But take that up with Congress. Everytime someone suggest shutting down a program a Congress-critter wails "but my district"!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This EO will be caught in lawsuits like all of them. What I want to know is if they want to make cuts why not go through the regular/legal channels. They have both houses of Congress - and Congress can authorize RIFs. Why aren't they doing that?

They need massive staff reductions to create the appearance of cost savings to justify their deficit-increasing tax cut. It’s theater. They care so little about what government actually does, they are willing to destroy it to save their wealthy friends money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.

The number of federal employees is the same as it was 50 years ago. RIFs are not the solution.


Even if the number of federal employees has remained constant, that doesn’t mean a reduction in force (RIF) isn’t necessary. Advances in technology and process improvements should allow for a leaner and more efficient government
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.


I feel sad for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.

The number of federal employees is the same as it was 50 years ago. RIFs are not the solution.


Even if the number of federal employees has remained constant, that doesn’t mean a reduction in force (RIF) isn’t necessary. Advances in technology and process improvements should allow for a leaner and more efficient government

The number of employees is the same as 50 years ago, all while serving 100 million more people in the U.S. The cost or their compensation is lower than it was 15 years ago. Government employees are not the reason we have a budget deficit.

A RIF is not necessary. If new technology can increase efficiency, show us that first. Don’t just fire people and claim without evidence that AI will replace them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.


Why do people keeps saying this? First, there is inefficiency in everything. Yes, including the federal government. That doesn't mean you dismantle the entire thing. You address it surgically, not with a hacksaw. They are using a hacksaw, in the most cruel way possible. This means it is not about efficiency at all.

But you already know this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They don’t want to go to Congress. They don’t even actually want to RIF us. They want us to quit or be fired. They are hoping the threats of RIF make us take the fork.

I would like to read some good articles about what happened during the Clinton RIFs but from what I’ve always heard, they took years to complete and were such a disaster that no president has tried it since.


One way or another, the undeniable fact is that the federal government needs to become more efficient.


I doubt there is any more bloat in the Federal Government than any other large corporation. Feds are essentially doing what Congress (and the Prez) wants us to do. Are there programs that are legacy and could be retired? Sure. But take that up with Congress. Everytime someone suggest shutting down a program a Congress-critter wails "but my district"!


This!!! Feds have tried for years to shutter some programs. We know exactly where the inefficiencies are but we can’t stop it. One person, somewhere, once stole an ink pen and now we have to go through 100 layers to get more ink pens. Contracting is out of control, but you all wanted less feds and more contractors so here we are. Ethics is so strict (rightly so!) but now requires a team of people to manage. 508 compliance- yep a team of people to manage plus many contractors. You want to fire someone? It will take a year and will be excruciatingly painful for the manager. So painful you won’t want to fire anyone else. (Thank unions for that one. Their rules have made feds worse)
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