Do you let your dog off leash ever?

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Brooklyn, and Prospect Park designates three off-leash areas before 9 am for dogs to run around. Sure, there are sometimes dog spats and once in a while dogs get bitten (my own included once), but I have never seen a "bloodbath." There are also runners, birders, and assorted random people in the park at that time, and we all somehow manage to rub along together. This is my dog's favorite part of the day and truly a godsend for me, since he is a very energetic 70 lb German Shepherd/Huskie mix, and I honestly don't think I could exercise him enough solely through my own efforts and my spouse's combined. I can't run around at top speed like he does with the other dogs!

I live in a city with a similar situation. It's been great for the dogs and by 9am, they are leashed. Works out well.

Well, the reason it works well is because you are following the rules. Show up at 11 with your unleashed dog while the local sitters are there with 10 preschoolers, and you've got a problem.

Sure, but some people seem to just be arguing that a dog should never be off leash outside their own home.

The aggressive dog owners are such jerks. They want everyone to walk around on high alert because they insist on keeping dogs that can literally kill around others. Sick and depraved

The thread-derailing anti-pit bullies are such jerks. They want everyone to share their paranoid take because they insist their paranoia is reality, despite copious evidence to the contrary being regularly provided (and ignored). Sick and deranged.

We get it. You hate pit bulls. If it's making it hard for you to focus, stay on task, and get through your day without unhinged ranting, you should seek help

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What copious evidence is there to the contrary? When I chat gpt aggressive dog breeds, pit comes up first. Is chargpt wrong but you are right?

The Pit Bull breed is statistically associated with the highest number of fatal dog attacks in the United States. According to studies and reports from organizations like DogsBite.org and CDC data, Pit Bulls are responsible for the majority of fatal attacks on humans, often accounting for 60-70% of dog-related fatalities annually, despite making up a smaller percentage of the dog population.

Other breeds that have been involved in fatal attacks include:
• Rottweilers
• German Shepherds
• Huskies
• Mastiffs
• American Bulldogs

You're citing ChatGPT. Language learning models are not verified fact sites. Jaysus H...

This is why nobody believes your whole argument: you attempt to substantiate it with this nonsense. It's bad when you use clickbait news, but it's patently ridiculous when you use "AI" which is neither artificial nor intelligent. You have no idea where it pulled these figures; they're as reputable as an anon poster's backside (the most frequent source of anti-pit bullies' "statistics"). In fact, the anon's arse is probably a more reputable source, as Jeff can track their location, at least, which is more than you'll get for citations from ChatfsckingGPTdamnedT

Have mercy...

Omg you’re claiming chatgpt is wrong?? Ok then. I know science is scary to people like you. Wow.

NP. ChatGPT not infrequently gives misinformation. They’re referred to as “hallucinations” and are part of the reason we discourage the use of it in writing papers in school.

It’s bad with case law. Otherwise, very accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

DP

No, people should have their dogs on leashes. It's unreasonable to expect all dogs to behave perfectly. It's perfectly reasonable to expect their humans to keep them under control, eliminating the problem PP described.

The problem is the unreasonable people who seem to think the law doesn't apply to them, or only applies when someone is there to force them. Y'all are overgrown children, behaving like entitled brats, and it's pathetic behavior from someone legally old enough to take responsibility for another life. It shows how little you care for the community, but also for your own dog's safety. The laws protect your dog. It's not my job to protect your dog when you don't.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

So, you never drive over the speed limit? Jaywalk? If we followed you around, I’m pretty sure that “on a long enough timeline” you’d fall right off that high horse. Don’t get too comfortable up there.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Brooklyn, and Prospect Park designates three off-leash areas before 9 am for dogs to run around. Sure, there are sometimes dog spats and once in a while dogs get bitten (my own included once), but I have never seen a "bloodbath." There are also runners, birders, and assorted random people in the park at that time, and we all somehow manage to rub along together. This is my dog's favorite part of the day and truly a godsend for me, since he is a very energetic 70 lb German Shepherd/Huskie mix, and I honestly don't think I could exercise him enough solely through my own efforts and my spouse's combined. I can't run around at top speed like he does with the other dogs!

I live in a city with a similar situation. It's been great for the dogs and by 9am, they are leashed. Works out well.

Well, the reason it works well is because you are following the rules. Show up at 11 with your unleashed dog while the local sitters are there with 10 preschoolers, and you've got a problem.

Sure, but some people seem to just be arguing that a dog should never be off leash outside their own home.

The aggressive dog owners are such jerks. They want everyone to walk around on high alert because they insist on keeping dogs that can literally kill around others. Sick and depraved

The thread-derailing anti-pit bullies are such jerks. They want everyone to share their paranoid take because they insist their paranoia is reality, despite copious evidence to the contrary being regularly provided (and ignored). Sick and deranged.

We get it. You hate pit bulls. If it's making it hard for you to focus, stay on task, and get through your day without unhinged ranting, you should seek help

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What copious evidence is there to the contrary? When I chat gpt aggressive dog breeds, pit comes up first. Is chargpt wrong but you are right?

The Pit Bull breed is statistically associated with the highest number of fatal dog attacks in the United States. According to studies and reports from organizations like DogsBite.org and CDC data, Pit Bulls are responsible for the majority of fatal attacks on humans, often accounting for 60-70% of dog-related fatalities annually, despite making up a smaller percentage of the dog population.

Other breeds that have been involved in fatal attacks include:
• Rottweilers
• German Shepherds
• Huskies
• Mastiffs
• American Bulldogs

You're citing ChatGPT. Language learning models are not verified fact sites. Jaysus H...

This is why nobody believes your whole argument: you attempt to substantiate it with this nonsense. It's bad when you use clickbait news, but it's patently ridiculous when you use "AI" which is neither artificial nor intelligent. You have no idea where it pulled these figures; they're as reputable as an anon poster's backside (the most frequent source of anti-pit bullies' "statistics"). In fact, the anon's arse is probably a more reputable source, as Jeff can track their location, at least, which is more than you'll get for citations from ChatfsckingGPTdamnedT

Have mercy...

Omg you’re claiming chatgpt is wrong?? Ok then. I know science is scary to people like you. Wow.

NP. ChatGPT not infrequently gives misinformation. They’re referred to as “hallucinations” and are part of the reason we discourage the use of it in writing papers in school.

It’s bad with case law. Otherwise, very accurate.

It's bad with a lot of things, and that's why it shouldn't be used for anything beyond entertainment, which it's also pretty garbage at creating.

Low intelligence people with low standards may believe otherwise. They should be ignored (because correcting them seems impossible).

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Anonymous wrote:Only in my fenced backyard and the dog park. I’ve also used Sniffspots that are fenced.

My dog's vet told me that dog parks are the worst place to take your dog, due to health and safety issues and invented to satisfy the need of humans, not dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

So, you never drive over the speed limit? Jaywalk? If we followed you around, I’m pretty sure that “on a long enough timeline” you’d fall right off that high horse. Don’t get too comfortable up there.

Do you have a problem with people who speed? Jaywalk? Does it matter to you if people trespass? Steal? I mean, where do you draw the line? You're super content to try to turn this on me, but no, actually, I'm the person most of y'all rip past because I'm at or under the limit, I don't jaywalk (I'm crippled; I barely walk in the crosswalk in time), and while I do make mistakes, that's what they are: honest mistakes.

There is a distinct difference between being a flawed human who inadvertently beefs it sometimes, and being a deliberately non-compliant human who thinks they can ignore the rules they clearly know and willfully disregard. My flawed humanity doesn't excuse your intentional lawlessness.

We are not the same.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

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^ I suspect that’s the case for Op and others on here.

Keep your nasty aggressive beasts away. Hopefully they’ll be banned everywhere soon enough

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

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Anonymous wrote:^ I suspect that’s the case for Op and others on here.

Keep your nasty aggressive beasts away. Hopefully they’ll be banned everywhere soon enough

Keep your nasty aggressive attitude to yourself. You're ignorant, and annoying and we're all tired of your drivel.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Ah, I get it. You're just going to keep saying it, as if that makes it true. If this exists, prove it. But it probably doesn't, like the majority of the nonsense people post here. Useless.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

So, you never drive over the speed limit? Jaywalk? If we followed you around, I’m pretty sure that “on a long enough timeline” you’d fall right off that high horse. Don’t get too comfortable up there.

DP but I don't get the point here. Yes, I do drive over the speed limit sometimes but I have also been over and received a ticket, which I deserved, so I really make every effort not to speed. Likewise, I don't jaywalk because I've been driving long enough to know how dangerous and crappy that is. I also teach my kid not to jaywalk. I did jaywalk some when I was younger and more selfish, but I learned.

No one is perfect but if you are a reasonable person and you don't have a personality disorder, if someone points out that you are doing something illegal and antisocial, the response is "yeah, you are right -- I will do better."

The fact that so many of you respond to people saying "you should keep your dog on a leash because (1) it's the law, and (2) it's safest for everyone" by insisting you can do whatever you want and who cares if it's illegal or harms other people is a reflection on your low character. That is not a normal response to what is ultimately a reasonable request.