A message from PA relatives: Stop sending your political canvassers from Maryland

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Anonymous wrote:I understand this to an extent but it’s also sad to me.

We’re all Americans and fellow humans. Can’t we talk to each other?

Um… what would the reaction of DCUM’s finest be if people came knocking on their doors, telling them to vote for Trump? And before anyone lies about that happening - it’s not.

Door to door canvassing is as old as democracy. You people are nuts.

In this day and age of internet and iPhones - or even basic broadcast tv - it is beyond presumptuous to think anyone needs you lecturing them about who to vote for. Democrats are such busybodies.

Nothing beats a face-to-face conversation. If you don’t like it, don’t open your door.

You seem really afraid of Democrats HUGE army of volunteers Willing to put in the hard work, it takes to win an election.

Exactly, this is a functional campaign. They aren't getting door knocks from republicans, because Trump is funneling donations into his own pockets.

Harris is a competent enough candidate going against our worst major party nominee ever. We don't need idiots soliciting door to door annoying people in order to beat Trump. Canvassing is an absolute joke carried out by morons that no one likes.

You might be surprised. Some people are clueless about the correct day for election day, about how to vote early, about how to request a ballot if they can't go to polls, about the other races on the ballot. If someone is not interested, they don't answer the door or they say they are not interested.

What a condescending attitude to think others are clueless, but you will help them.

DP.

We had a local festival about a month ago. Both the local Democratic and Republican parties had tents (and several of the local state politicans were there greeting folks). There were plenty of people who stopped or were stopped as they walked by who did not know when the last day to register was, when the last day to request mail-in ballots were, where early voting centers were and when it started, who the down-ballot candidates were, where to find their local election sites (this often from people who had moved since the last time they voted) were.

If the canvassers are polite and not pushing their candidate beyond an intro question, then why is this so offensive to you? Anyone who doesn't want the information can either not answer the door, or can answer and give the same response I give to the Jehovahs, "No thank you." and close the door. Those who have questions, can ask without having to hunt for the information.

The Trumpsters are really, really triggered by this for some reason.

First of all, I'm not a "Trumpster." I think tents are great, and people can request voting info. Has it not occurred to you that people could be ill, could be elderly and have difficulry getting to the door, could be recovering from surgery, could have a sleeping baby, could be resting after a night work shift, might just not want the interruption of a doorbell or knock? Why should they be disturbed by a stranger who feels the need to share political info from any political party?

I remember books like Windows for Dummies, but maybe there's a Doors version? Because these all sound like basic competency, not campaign related.

PP here. It's not about competency. It's about courtesy for people you don't know and not disturbing them. Clearly, you think it's fine to intrude and disturb strangers. ³

DP but what happened to mind your own business? The MAGAs stopped doing that a long time ago with all of their restrictive abortion laws, the dog whistling of legal Haitian immigrants, the scapegoating and outright attempts to criminalize LGBTQ rights. A friendly knock on the door from a stranger who is trying to engage folks on a consequential election is hardly an equivalent burden.

I didn't say it was equivalent; I'm saying that it is an unwelcome disturbance for many people, due to the reasons I stated. I'll add that I live in a big city. Strangers.are not welcome at doors in my neighborhood. Too hard to distinguish a friendly knock from a potential threat. We text and warn each other. We also know when/where to vote and how to use the voting machines to make selections.

Then hang a do not disturb sign. I’ve done tons of GOTV. Folks who truly do not want to be disturbed do that. Folks who want to whine do not.

There's always that kind of person who thinks OTHERS should put up with their unwanted door to door and/or phone call solicitations. There's a Jerry Seinfeld clip made for people like you.

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Anonymous wrote:My spouse and I live in Maryland and took our two kids to canvas in Pennsylvania last weekend. No one asked about local politics -you basically knock on the door, confirm the resident has sufficient information/has registered to vote and offer to answer any questions. No one had questions. The engagements last maybe 2 minutes tops. We must have done 300 apartments/houses and no one asked where we were from and we don’t have the word Maryland tattooed on our forehead. Two people even offered my kids candy.

Question:

Was pretty much everyone already registered—and already knew when and where to vote?

The reason I ask is that my org does a big push on educating people about such things and I’m stumped as to why…because I’ve never actually met someone IRL who isn’t registered and is incapable of understanding when and where to vote.

So if most of the people you spoke with in PA said they were all set, can you imagine how they might feel having a strange family on their doorstep assume they are clueless and need help?

Signed,

DEM

Everyone’s experiences are different but my husband and kid said they gave three young people brochures on how to register and my husband felt good about that. Also we didn’t show up as a family of four on people’s doorsteps -we split one parent and one kid and canvassed opposite sides of the street. No one seemed to think we were clueless or needed help. We didn’t look scared or destitute. We had Dem brochures and campaign buttons given to us by York headquarters prominently displayed so it wasn’t a secret as to why we were knocking.

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I meant that the folks answering doors in PA might have felt insulted by the Marylanders standing on their doorstep offering their super smart Maryland Dem help to the clueless PA people who they assumed might have questions on when and where to vote.

And re: the other poster with the mom in VA who found voting hard - maybe it’s a generation thing, because all the info is online. There are websites telling you how to register, where to vote, etc.

If a person can’t figure such things out, that’s troubling.

Fwiw, I don’t think the majority of voters are clueless and need help…particularly homeowners. So I’m curious what kind of people actually said they weren’t registered and needed help.

Do you think canvassers are knocking on people's doors and saying they're from out of state? People don't have the letter M tattooed on their forehead. I'm a Marylander and have volunteer canvassed in Virginia and Pennsylvania in the past, and no one ever asks, and i don't tell. The people who said they weren't registered and asked how to do so were predominantly younger people who weren't on our target list who happened to answer the door. All sorts of people answer the doors-not just homeowners.

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I think this thread is just phony baloney MAGA FUD trying to discourage canvassing in PA - because Trump is losing ground in PA.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this thread is just phony baloney MAGA FUD trying to discourage canvassing in PA - because Trump is losing ground in PA.

+1 This whole thread, like so many in this forum these days, is hella’ sus. Maybe it’s real, but it’s not without an agenda.

I’ve done a bunch of GOTV and have always found voters who didn’t have the information they needed.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand this to an extent but it’s also sad to me.

We’re all Americans and fellow humans. Can’t we talk to each other?

Um… what would the reaction of DCUM’s finest be if people came knocking on their doors, telling them to vote for Trump? And before anyone lies about that happening - it’s not.

Door to door canvassing is as old as democracy. You people are nuts.

In this day and age of internet and iPhones - or even basic broadcast tv - it is beyond presumptuous to think anyone needs you lecturing them about who to vote for. Democrats are such busybodies.

Nothing beats a face-to-face conversation. If you don’t like it, don’t open your door.

You seem really afraid of Democrats HUGE army of volunteers Willing to put in the hard work, it takes to win an election.

Exactly, this is a functional campaign. They aren't getting door knocks from republicans, because Trump is funneling donations into his own pockets.

Harris is a competent enough candidate going against our worst major party nominee ever. We don't need idiots soliciting door to door annoying people in order to beat Trump. Canvassing is an absolute joke carried out by morons that no one likes.

You might be surprised. Some people are clueless about the correct day for election day, about how to vote early, about how to request a ballot if they can't go to polls, about the other races on the ballot. If someone is not interested, they don't answer the door or they say they are not interested.

What a condescending attitude to think others are clueless, but you will help them.

DP.

We had a local festival about a month ago. Both the local Democratic and Republican parties had tents (and several of the local state politicans were there greeting folks). There were plenty of people who stopped or were stopped as they walked by who did not know when the last day to register was, when the last day to request mail-in ballots were, where early voting centers were and when it started, who the down-ballot candidates were, where to find their local election sites (this often from people who had moved since the last time they voted) were.

If the canvassers are polite and not pushing their candidate beyond an intro question, then why is this so offensive to you? Anyone who doesn't want the information can either not answer the door, or can answer and give the same response I give to the Jehovahs, "No thank you." and close the door. Those who have questions, can ask without having to hunt for the information.

The Trumpsters are really, really triggered by this for some reason.

First of all, I'm not a "Trumpster." I think tents are great, and people can request voting info. Has it not occurred to you that people could be ill, could be elderly and have difficulry getting to the door, could be recovering from surgery, could have a sleeping baby, could be resting after a night work shift, might just not want the interruption of a doorbell or knock? Why should they be disturbed by a stranger who feels the need to share political info from any political party?

I remember books like Windows for Dummies, but maybe there's a Doors version? Because these all sound like basic competency, not campaign related.

PP here. It's not about competency. It's about courtesy for people you don't know and not disturbing them. Clearly, you think it's fine to intrude and disturb strangers. ³

DP but what happened to mind your own business? The MAGAs stopped doing that a long time ago with all of their restrictive abortion laws, the dog whistling of legal Haitian immigrants, the scapegoating and outright attempts to criminalize LGBTQ rights. A friendly knock on the door from a stranger who is trying to engage folks on a consequential election is hardly an equivalent burden.

I didn't say it was equivalent; I'm saying that it is an unwelcome disturbance for many people, due to the reasons I stated. I'll add that I live in a big city. Strangers.are not welcome at doors in my neighborhood. Too hard to distinguish a friendly knock from a potential threat. We text and warn each other. We also know when/where to vote and how to use the voting machines to make selections.

Then hang a do not disturb sign. I’ve done tons of GOTV. Folks who truly do not want to be disturbed do that. Folks who want to whine do not.

There's always that kind of person who thinks OTHERS should put up with their unwanted door to door and/or phone call solicitations. There's a Jerry Seinfeld clip made for people like you.

I love that clip! Classic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this thread is just phony baloney MAGA FUD trying to discourage canvassing in PA - because Trump is losing ground in PA.

+1 This whole thread, like so many in this forum these days, is hella’ sus. Maybe it’s real, but it’s not without an agenda.

I’ve done a bunch of GOTV and have always found voters who didn’t have the information they needed.

+2 even if it’s true that the OP’s relatives are misanthropes who are completely inconvenienced by someone coming to canvas their house briefly, who cares? Plenty of people do need and appreciate the info brought by canvassers. And if you look at the new polls that came out today-Kamala is up ijn Pa. Inch by inch and block by block-that’s how you gain ground

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Anonymous wrote:I understand this to an extent but it’s also sad to me.

We’re all Americans and fellow humans. Can’t we talk to each other?

Um… what would the reaction of DCUM’s finest be if people came knocking on their doors, telling them to vote for Trump? And before anyone lies about that happening - it’s not.

Door to door canvassing is as old as democracy. You people are nuts.

In this day and age of internet and iPhones - or even basic broadcast tv - it is beyond presumptuous to think anyone needs you lecturing them about who to vote for. Democrats are such busybodies.

Nothing beats a face-to-face conversation. If you don’t like it, don’t open your door.

You seem really afraid of Democrats HUGE army of volunteers Willing to put in the hard work, it takes to win an election.

Exactly, this is a functional campaign. They aren't getting door knocks from republicans, because Trump is funneling donations into his own pockets.

Harris is a competent enough candidate going against our worst major party nominee ever. We don't need idiots soliciting door to door annoying people in order to beat Trump. Canvassing is an absolute joke carried out by morons that no one likes.

You might be surprised. Some people are clueless about the correct day for election day, about how to vote early, about how to request a ballot if they can't go to polls, about the other races on the ballot. If someone is not interested, they don't answer the door or they say they are not interested.

What a condescending attitude to think others are clueless, but you will help them.

DP.

We had a local festival about a month ago. Both the local Democratic and Republican parties had tents (and several of the local state politicans were there greeting folks). There were plenty of people who stopped or were stopped as they walked by who did not know when the last day to register was, when the last day to request mail-in ballots were, where early voting centers were and when it started, who the down-ballot candidates were, where to find their local election sites (this often from people who had moved since the last time they voted) were.

If the canvassers are polite and not pushing their candidate beyond an intro question, then why is this so offensive to you? Anyone who doesn't want the information can either not answer the door, or can answer and give the same response I give to the Jehovahs, "No thank you." and close the door. Those who have questions, can ask without having to hunt for the information.

The Trumpsters are really, really triggered by this for some reason.

First of all, I'm not a "Trumpster." I think tents are great, and people can request voting info. Has it not occurred to you that people could be ill, could be elderly and have difficulry getting to the door, could be recovering from surgery, could have a sleeping baby, could be resting after a night work shift, might just not want the interruption of a doorbell or knock? Why should they be disturbed by a stranger who feels the need to share political info from any political party?

I remember books like Windows for Dummies, but maybe there's a Doors version? Because these all sound like basic competency, not campaign related.

PP here. It's not about competency. It's about courtesy for people you don't know and not disturbing them. Clearly, you think it's fine to intrude and disturb strangers. ³

DP but what happened to mind your own business? The MAGAs stopped doing that a long time ago with all of their restrictive abortion laws, the dog whistling of legal Haitian immigrants, the scapegoating and outright attempts to criminalize LGBTQ rights. A friendly knock on the door from a stranger who is trying to engage folks on a consequential election is hardly an equivalent burden.

I didn't say it was equivalent; I'm saying that it is an unwelcome disturbance for many people, due to the reasons I stated. I'll add that I live in a big city. Strangers.are not welcome at doors in my neighborhood. Too hard to distinguish a friendly knock from a potential threat. We text and warn each other. We also know when/where to vote and how to use the voting machines to make selections.

Then hang a do not disturb sign. I’ve done tons of GOTV. Folks who truly do not want to be disturbed do that. Folks who want to whine do not.

There's always that kind of person who thinks OTHERS should put up with their unwanted door to door and/or phone call solicitations. There's a Jerry Seinfeld clip made for people like you.

I love that clip! Classic.

+1 LOL yes!! My other favorite is when he's trying to rent a car, but it's no longer available!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this thread is just phony baloney MAGA FUD trying to discourage canvassing in PA - because Trump is losing ground in PA.

+1 This whole thread, like so many in this forum these days, is hella’ sus. Maybe it’s real, but it’s not without an agenda.

I’ve done a bunch of GOTV and have always found voters who didn’t have the information they needed.

Do you give them your number and address so they can contact you at a time that's convenient for them?

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Anonymous wrote:My spouse and I live in Maryland and took our two kids to canvas in Pennsylvania last weekend. No one asked about local politics -you basically knock on the door, confirm the resident has sufficient information/has registered to vote and offer to answer any questions. No one had questions. The engagements last maybe 2 minutes tops. We must have done 300 apartments/houses and no one asked where we were from and we don’t have the word Maryland tattooed on our forehead. Two people even offered my kids candy.

Question:

Was pretty much everyone already registered—and already knew when and where to vote?

The reason I ask is that my org does a big push on educating people about such things and I’m stumped as to why…because I’ve never actually met someone IRL who isn’t registered and is incapable of understanding when and where to vote.

So if most of the people you spoke with in PA said they were all set, can you imagine how they might feel having a strange family on their doorstep assume they are clueless and need help?

Signed,

DEM

Everyone’s experiences are different but my husband and kid said they gave three young people brochures on how to register and my husband felt good about that. Also we didn’t show up as a family of four on people’s doorsteps -we split one parent and one kid and canvassed opposite sides of the street. No one seemed to think we were clueless or needed help. We didn’t look scared or destitute. We had Dem brochures and campaign buttons given to us by York headquarters prominently displayed so it wasn’t a secret as to why we were knocking.

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I meant that the folks answering doors in PA might have felt insulted by the Marylanders standing on their doorstep offering their super smart Maryland Dem help to the clueless PA people who they assumed might have questions on when and where to vote.

And re: the other poster with the mom in VA who found voting hard - maybe it’s a generation thing, because all the info is online. There are websites telling you how to register, where to vote, etc.

If a person can’t figure such things out, that’s troubling.

Fwiw, I don’t think the majority of voters are clueless and need help…particularly homeowners. So I’m curious what kind of people actually said they weren’t registered and needed help.

Do you think canvassers are knocking on people's doors and saying they're from out of state? People don't have the letter M tattooed on their forehead. I'm a Marylander and have volunteer canvassed in Virginia and Pennsylvania in the past, and no one ever asks, and i don't tell. The people who said they weren't registered and asked how to do so were predominantly younger people who weren't on our target list who happened to answer the door. All sorts of people answer the doors-not just homeowners.

And sometimes they don’t mind at all. Jane Fonda is canvassing in Michigan and was greeted with a hug. Fonda is known to be from California.

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Anonymous wrote:My spouse and I live in Maryland and took our two kids to canvas in Pennsylvania last weekend. No one asked about local politics -you basically knock on the door, confirm the resident has sufficient information/has registered to vote and offer to answer any questions. No one had questions. The engagements last maybe 2 minutes tops. We must have done 300 apartments/houses and no one asked where we were from and we don’t have the word Maryland tattooed on our forehead. Two people even offered my kids candy.

Question:

Was pretty much everyone already registered—and already knew when and where to vote?

The reason I ask is that my org does a big push on educating people about such things and I’m stumped as to why…because I’ve never actually met someone IRL who isn’t registered and is incapable of understanding when and where to vote.

So if most of the people you spoke with in PA said they were all set, can you imagine how they might feel having a strange family on their doorstep assume they are clueless and need help?

Signed,

DEM

Everyone’s experiences are different but my husband and kid said they gave three young people brochures on how to register and my husband felt good about that. Also we didn’t show up as a family of four on people’s doorsteps -we split one parent and one kid and canvassed opposite sides of the street. No one seemed to think we were clueless or needed help. We didn’t look scared or destitute. We had Dem brochures and campaign buttons given to us by York headquarters prominently displayed so it wasn’t a secret as to why we were knocking.

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I meant that the folks answering doors in PA might have felt insulted by the Marylanders standing on their doorstep offering their super smart Maryland Dem help to the clueless PA people who they assumed might have questions on when and where to vote.

And re: the other poster with the mom in VA who found voting hard - maybe it’s a generation thing, because all the info is online. There are websites telling you how to register, where to vote, etc.

If a person can’t figure such things out, that’s troubling.

Fwiw, I don’t think the majority of voters are clueless and need help…particularly homeowners. So I’m curious what kind of people actually said they weren’t registered and needed help.

Do you think canvassers are knocking on people's doors and saying they're from out of state? People don't have the letter M tattooed on their forehead. I'm a Marylander and have volunteer canvassed in Virginia and Pennsylvania in the past, and no one ever asks, and i don't tell. The people who said they weren't registered and asked how to do so were predominantly younger people who weren't on our target list who happened to answer the door. All sorts of people answer the doors-not just homeowners.

And sometimes they don’t mind at all. Jane Fonda is canvassing in Michigan and was greeted with a hug. Fonda is known to be from California.

Jane Fonda is known to be a lot of things.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs can’t deal with anyone outside their cult.

You sound like you'd be the ideal person to go to less affluent areas of Philadelphia and start knocking on doors so you can share voter information. They would appreciate your help!

I’m not the OP you are referring to but have done that for 25 years and will do that this election.

Ever patronizing Democrats must enlighten the less affluent to make sure they vote for the policies that suppress them.

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Campaigns have actual data on the effectiveness of canvassing. I think I’ll trust them over rando forum posters with dubious motives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this thread is just phony baloney MAGA FUD trying to discourage canvassing in PA - because Trump is losing ground in PA.

+1 This whole thread, like so many in this forum these days, is hella’ sus. Maybe it’s real, but it’s not without an agenda.

I’ve done a bunch of GOTV and have always found voters who didn’t have the information they needed.

Do you give them your number and address so they can contact you at a time that's convenient for them?

PP. I too get contacted all the time! It’s cool. If I can’t talk I tell them that, or I don’t answer. Sometimes, though, we have a fun quick conversation. At worst it’s not a big deal. At best it’s a chance to connect in a positive way with a real person in an highly atomized world.

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Anonymous wrote:My spouse and I live in Maryland and took our two kids to canvas in Pennsylvania last weekend. No one asked about local politics -you basically knock on the door, confirm the resident has sufficient information/has registered to vote and offer to answer any questions. No one had questions. The engagements last maybe 2 minutes tops. We must have done 300 apartments/houses and no one asked where we were from and we don’t have the word Maryland tattooed on our forehead. Two people even offered my kids candy.

Question:

Was pretty much everyone already registered—and already knew when and where to vote?

The reason I ask is that my org does a big push on educating people about such things and I’m stumped as to why…because I’ve never actually met someone IRL who isn’t registered and is incapable of understanding when and where to vote.

So if most of the people you spoke with in PA said they were all set, can you imagine how they might feel having a strange family on their doorstep assume they are clueless and need help?

Signed,

DEM

Everyone’s experiences are different but my husband and kid said they gave three young people brochures on how to register and my husband felt good about that. Also we didn’t show up as a family of four on people’s doorsteps -we split one parent and one kid and canvassed opposite sides of the street. No one seemed to think we were clueless or needed help. We didn’t look scared or destitute. We had Dem brochures and campaign buttons given to us by York headquarters prominently displayed so it wasn’t a secret as to why we were knocking.

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I meant that the folks answering doors in PA might have felt insulted by the Marylanders standing on their doorstep offering their super smart Maryland Dem help to the clueless PA people who they assumed might have questions on when and where to vote.

And re: the other poster with the mom in VA who found voting hard - maybe it’s a generation thing, because all the info is online. There are websites telling you how to register, where to vote, etc.

If a person can’t figure such things out, that’s troubling.

Fwiw, I don’t think the majority of voters are clueless and need help…particularly homeowners. So I’m curious what kind of people actually said they weren’t registered and needed help.

Do you think canvassers are knocking on people's doors and saying they're from out of state? People don't have the letter M tattooed on their forehead. I'm a Marylander and have volunteer canvassed in Virginia and Pennsylvania in the past, and no one ever asks, and i don't tell. The people who said they weren't registered and asked how to do so were predominantly younger people who weren't on our target list who happened to answer the door. All sorts of people answer the doors-not just homeowners.

And sometimes they don’t mind at all. Jane Fonda is canvassing in Michigan and was greeted with a hug. Fonda is known to be from California.

She’s a celebrity. Even a maga Republican would be thrilled to find a celebrity on their doorstep.

[Anonymous]

LOL-Republicans just jealous that Democrats are putting effort into PA while their fearless leader spends the day making speeches to half empty hallways in that "swing state" New York.